TheScotsman Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 They would be saying lousy choice of guest / lousy guest! But as GB said Bates is a top 5 rider / BWD is a reserve. And guests are so often chosen for their prowess at a specific track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I can see your point but nobody would be discussing this if he'd have had an average or nightmare meeting, it's sods law really. He did ride well to be fair to him but the baggage that he carries is unnecessary today confirmed what we were all thinking he is a complete tosser and sooner rather than later someone is going to give him a right royal tanking. He really can't continue his nedish behaviour much longer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post idh Posted October 9, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) They would be saying lousy choice of guest / lousy guest! But as GB said Bates is a top 5 rider / BWD is a reserve.hes And guests are so often chosen for their prowess at a specific track. Fed up with reading BWD is a reserve yes he's a reserve with a 5 + average with riders above him with better averages in another team BWD could be a 2nd string rider. In other teams if their no's 1-5 are out injured they are replaced with a like for like average rider or at home average +5% so why not BWD . Other teams have used these "average rules" to replace riders sometimes to advantage sometimes against. As a previous post has said if Glasgow had won nothing would have been said. Take it on the chin like Somerset did at home the other week. Good Management skills in use here. Edited October 9, 2016 by idh 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) They would be saying lousy choice of guest / lousy guest! But as GB said Bates is a top 5 rider / BWD is a reserve. And guests are so often chosen for their prowess at a specific track. What difference does that make, both have identical averages. Bradley has been riding in a team with a very strong top 5, and spent some time in the main body. If the pair switched teams, Bates would probably now be riding at reserve for the Rebels, and Bradley in the main body of Sheffield team...........It's all relative Edited October 9, 2016 by womble53 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Fed up with reading BWD is a reserve yes he's a reserve with a 5 + average with riders above him with better averages in another team BWD could be a 2nd string rider. In other teams if their no's 1-5 are out injured they are replaced with a like for like average rider or at home average +5% so why not BWD . Other teams have used these "average rules" to replace riders sometimes to advantage sometimes against. As a previous post has said if Glasgow had won nothing would have been said. Take it on the chin like Somerset did at home the other week. Good Management skills in use here. Scotsman supports Edinburgh we are taking it on the chin the Rebs deserved today plain & simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble53 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Fed up with reading BWD is a reserve yes he's a reserve with a 5 + average with riders above him with better averages in another team BWD could be a 2nd string rider. In other teams if their no's 1-5 are out injured they are replaced with a like for like average rider or at home average +5% so why not BWD . Other teams have used these "average rules" to replace riders sometimes to advantage sometimes against. As a previous post has said if Glasgow had won nothing would have been said. Take it on the chin like Somerset did at home the other week. Good Management skills in use here. Beat me to it Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Scotsman supports Edinburgh we are taking it on the chin the Rebs deserved today plain & simple. Fair dues Gazc i think its a minority issue and others stirring it. No gripes against the Glasgow supporters enjoy their company at the OTA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Fair dues Gazc i think its a minority issue and others stirring it. No gripes against the Glasgow supporters enjoy their company at the OTA. No problem i just say it how i see it and today the best team won. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I have no issues with Rebs winning this. If I was a nasty monarchs supporter I might even be pleased! But I'm not like that! I just don't like the system whereby a team weakened by injury becomes probably stronger in some away matches. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highroad119 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Really disappointed with the track today. Great weather leadin up to the meeting then we have riders strugglin with visiblity issues for nearly half the meeting. Coles, ayres and garcia very fortunate to escape injury. Very little racing, so a rammy brightened proceedings up a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Identical averages BWD and Josh. One average achieved in a top five, the other at reserve with easier rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I just don't like the system whereby a team weakened by injury becomes probably stronger in some away matches. win some loose some ; got lucky twice at Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 I'm certainly not stirring it, just think it's yet another crap rule and worthy of discussion. At the end of the day Bates and Tungate's contributions cancelled each other out so Somerset probably would have won anyway but as Scotsman says guests should never strengthen a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 One average achieved in a top five, the other at reserve with easier rides. BWD been beating the best this year had a brilliant year been getting 6 rides a meeting not all against reserves. Like i said in any other team he would be a 2nd string rider. Even when he was at no 2 he was churning out the results just unlucky to be in competition with anther "find" of the season Jake Allen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 One average achieved in a top five, the other at reserve with easier rides.See Womble 53 post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomersetBlue Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 They have Identical averages. He may be an idiot but doesn't make us stronger on paper really. On that note i don't want him anywhere near the Somerset team again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeyin Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Well done to the rebels , they are a formidable team, unfortunately some of our boys struggled with the track, must have been Rene's worst meeting since joining Glasgow , I honestly think that the rebels have won due to their astute choice of guests, well within the rules and we would have done the same. Congratulations... Shame Bates let himself down with his fisticuffs as he had a superb meeting until then 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idh Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Well done to the rebels , they are a formidable team, unfortunately some of our boys struggled with the track, must have been Rene's worst meeting since joining Glasgow , I honestly think that the rebels have won due to their astute choice of guests, well within the rules and we would have done the same. Congratulations... Shame Bates let himself down with his fisticuffs as he had a superb meeting until then Tigergirl excellent post true Glasgow supporter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 See Womble 53 post. I read it and disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew2 Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Totally agree. The guest system is a farce especially in away matches. Teams should never be stronger with a guest than they would with their own rider. If you have an injury in the team that's bad luck but shouldn't make you stronger. But weren't Glasgow in the same boat last week as RR for Lunna made them stronger both at OTA and Ashfield for KO Cup. Bach as supposed 7 pointer could take a 4 pointers ride. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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