PHILIPRISING Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Ok got to be Rye House then!! COULD be on the right track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 COULD be on the right track A replacement trick track aswell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Here's hoping some Pl clubs are not suckered in to joining EL like the beginning of the Ninetys.Let them get on with it,paying out money they can't afford is ruining the sport. And the PL is truly wonderful and has no issues! You've not seen Stoke, IoW and Newport drop down or disappear in recent years have you? Glasgow was only saved by people with more money than sense and Berwick have gone through owners/promoters at a rate that makes the EL promoter look like they have been doing it forever. Speedway NEEDS to get over this them and us thing between the leagues. SPEEDWAY has problems, not one league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Here's hoping some Pl clubs are not suckered in to joining EL like the beginning of the Ninetys.Let them get on with it,paying out money they can't afford is ruining the sport. ?? not sure if you noticed but Pl clubs are going to wall and paying money they can't afford ...speedway is in trouble fall stop ..why is there this blindness that it's all about one league ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) More from Jon Cook on Essex Radio just now. The problem Lakeside need to run more meetings on Saturdays because the ongoing road works cause too many fans no to come because of delays and congestion, especially those coming up from Kent but they won't know what Saturday's they can have until the stock car club finish their programme in two weeks time and that will be too late for the AGM. Jon cited the Poole meeting as an example. They would ordinarily expect a crowd of at least 16-1800 for Poole but in the event Iy plummeted to 700 due to traffic congestion. The highest attendances are always Good Friday and the two Saturday's that Coventry come down. I have to add that I came through Dartford Tunnel last Friday and it took me 90 minutes to get through, and that's without the additional traffic of a Speedwáy night. Everyday we hear on the radio delays coming from Kent to Essx through the tunnel. Pretty disgusting when you consider the Bridge/tunnel is £2-50 each way. Edited November 1, 2016 by Daytripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Post like the above really outlines all the problems that exist with our sport.... EL , Pl and NL should all be as one and rules, regulations, governing bodies and format should apply to all leagues. Posters like the above talk of one league as if its superior to the others. Let gets one thing straight here, the reason the sport is in the dire straits its in, is because of attitudes like this. It should be every clubs and every fans ambition to ride in the top league. Any other intentions merely highlights the ridiculous attitudes that exists between the leagues.... Here's hoping Buster can install some common sense....... We sure need it.... Where did I say one league is superior to another,you making things up!.Most fans realise the GB speedway is on the decline,90% of clubs could not afford to run in "top league" as you call it if it means paying extortionate wages to riders who treat Gb speedway a means of topping up their earnings .The ridiculous attitudes that exists is between the Promotors and NOT the fans.Most of them have voted with their feet in recent years.The PL is not a superior league it is a more realistic answer to the money problems in the sport,but even it is starting to fail in that respect.In Few years time the same fate will follow in NL regarding riders wages the way things are going.We can't attract new fans and keep them that's the problem to solve whatever it takes. Edited November 1, 2016 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWC Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 A replacement trick track aswell Hardly or didn't you notice the number of close meetings this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) More from Jon Cook on Essex Radio just now. The problem Lakeside need to run more meetings on Saturdays because the ongoing road works cause too many fans no to come because of delays and congestion, especially those coming up from Kent but they won't know what Saturday's they can have until the stock car club finish their programme in two weeks time and that will be too late for the AGM. Jon cited the Poole meeting as an example. They would ordinarily expect a crowd of at least 16-1800 for Poole but in the event Iy plummeted to 700 due to traffic congestion. The highest attendances are always Good Friday and the two Saturday's that Coventry come down. I have to add that I came through Dartford Tunnel last Friday and it took me 90 minutes to get through, and that's without the additional traffic of a Speedwáy night. Everyday we hear on the radio delays coming from Kent to Essx through the tunnel. Pretty disgusting when you consider the Bridge/tunnel is £2-50 each way. Delays delays and roadworks everywhere mate, its getting stupid. We've had the main artierial road from the A31 into poole closed right through the summer months sinse july and doesnt re- open untill end of November. How stupid is that. Clearly they have no interest in tourisum. Edited November 1, 2016 by Starman2006 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 And the PL is truly wonderful and has no issues! You've not seen Stoke, IoW and Newport drop down or disappear in recent years have you? Glasgow was only saved by people with more money than sense and Berwick have gone through owners/promoters at a rate that makes the EL promoter look like they have been doing it forever. Speedway NEEDS to get over this them and us thing between the leagues. SPEEDWAY has problems, not one league. Your making things up regarding my Post.!!!! Where did I quote the PL is truly wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted November 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 It has to be Premier league to retain fan interest imo. If the idea is to get back into the tip flight within 3 years, then we would need some momentum going in. Being in the NL would all but kill that off in my view. I'm concerned that 3 years worth of NL racing would put an end to mine and many others support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 ?? not sure if you noticed but Pl clubs are going to wall and paying money they can't afford ...speedway is in trouble fall stop ..why is there this blindness that it's all about one league ? Dead right. The problem with paying out more than you can afford is not exclusive to the EL. Very surprised at this one......but delighted that there will be speedway at one of my favourite tracks next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 It has to be Premier league to retain fan interest imo. If the idea is to get back into the tip flight within 3 years, then we would need some momentum going in. Being in the NL would all but kill that off in my view. I'm concerned that 3 years worth of NL racing would put an end to mine and many others support. You must be one of these EL snobs then .!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Glasgow are looking to run on saturdays next year, so that rules them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 More from Jon Cook on Essex Radio just now. The problem Lakeside need to run more meetings on Saturdays because the ongoing road works cause too many fans no to come because of delays and congestion, especially those coming up from Kent but they won't know what Saturday's they can have until the stock car club finish their programme in two weeks time and that will be too late for the AGM. Jon cited the Poole meeting as an example. They would ordinarily expect a crowd of at least 16-1800 for Poole but in the event Iy plummeted to 700 due to traffic congestion. The highest attendances are always Good Friday and the two Saturday's that Coventry come down. I have to add that I came through Dartford Tunnel last Friday and it took me 90 minutes to get through, and that's without the additional traffic of a Speedwáy night. Everyday we hear on the radio delays coming from Kent to Essx through the tunnel. Pretty disgusting when you consider the Bridge/tunnel is £2-50 each way. 3 attempts of getting to Eastbourne on a Sunday and 2 attempts scuppered (M25) by road closures and a Half Marathon. It's a nightmare not to mention night closures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04dw3cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Where did I say one league is superior to another,you making things up!.Most fans realise the GB speedway is on the decline,90% of clubs could not afford to run in "top league" as you call it if it means paying extortionate wages to riders who treat Gb speedway a means of topping up their earnings .The ridiculous attitudes that exists is between the Promotors and NOT the fans.Most of them have voted with their feet in recent years.The PL is not a superior league it is a more realistic answer to the money problems in the sport,but even it is starting to fail in that respect.In Few years time the same fate will follow in NL regarding riders wages the way things are going.We can't attract new fans and keep them that's the problem to solve whatever it takes. I just put this on the Peterborough thread, but it pretty much fits in with all leagues. "I wouldn't call it diluted, I'd call it sustainable, and that is what all the tracks need to be looking at or there's no way to build from anything else" The people moaning that we are losing top riders from the league have to realise it before it's too late, it's the sport that matters, not seeing riders fleece the clubs of everything. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 I just put this on the Peterborough thread, but it pretty much fits in with all leagues. "I wouldn't call it diluted, I'd call it sustainable, and that is what all the tracks need to be looking at or there's no way to build from anything else" The people moaning that we are losing top riders from the league have to realise it before it's too late, it's the sport that matters, not seeing riders fleece the clubs of everything. All you ever hear from abroad is riders not being paid and Clubs living beyond their means. How does that work ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Fingers crossed Lakeside can run PL next year. We've missed that rivalry at Ipswich the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 Just where does all this leave what is left of the 'Elite League'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 1, 2016 Report Share Posted November 1, 2016 And the PL is truly wonderful and has no issues! You've not seen Stoke, IoW and Newport drop down or disappear in recent years have you? Glasgow was only saved by people with more money than sense and Berwick have gone through owners/promoters at a rate that makes the EL promoter look like they have been doing it forever. Speedway NEEDS to get over this them and us thing between the leagues. SPEEDWAY has problems, not one league. Stupid claim regarding Berwick, with John Anderson being in charge for 8 years and Peter Waite before him for even longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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