Col Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Due to this picture I which Wolves but up earlier which suggested that Fast Freddie will be number 5 who will be number 1. Zagar is my best bet and will come in on 10.47 average. Lindgren will be Wolves highest averaging rider going into next season, there is not a rider out there unsigned or not of being the best rider around Monmore next year with a higher average. If Zagar is as expensive as claimed Wolves wouldn't touch him regardless of average. CVS/Adams very rarely build top heavy teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowfax Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 What about Fred 10.09 Jacob 9.89 Sam 8.97 Kyle 7.18 Schlein 7.17 Max 4.34 ? 2.00 -------- 49.64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 but we need 2 Brits I suppose so that's probably part of the reason. The signing of Howarth by Wolves surprised me, once the two Brits per team agreement as in place I thought Harris or Nicholls would nailed on for Wolves. Both of them signing for Rye House means CVS/Adams have probably had to re-think. What the Howarth signing does confirm for me is that Wolves lowest averaging rider to start the year will be Clegg. No 2 pointers. What about Fred 10.09 Jacob 9.89 Sam 8.97 Kyle 7.18 Schlein 7.17 Max 4.34 ? 2.00 -------- 49.64 No too top heavy for a CVS/Adams team. Lindgren 10.09 Musielak 6.34 Howarth 7.18 Proctor 6.68 Thorsell 9.88 Clegg 4.34 Klindt 5.42 0.07 to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Lingren 10.9 Thorsell 9.88 Masters 8.97 Howarth 7.18 4.73 Cldegg 4.34 Sissis 4.00 Edited November 28, 2016 by fish keeper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Has Musielak been linked with the club then as a potential signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Has Musielak been linked with the club then as a potential signing? Hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Just seeing his mention thought there was something that had been said to indicate this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 He was over for the Olympique and rumoured to be wanting a team place here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Just seeing his mention thought there was something that had been said to indicate this More of a ponder given his average and previous Monmore employment, really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWolves Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I thought Musielak rode well at the Olympique, much better than he had looked previously. But if his average is 6.34 as stated above then maybe not a good signing Do hope we retain Masters but we are in danger of having a team with a long tail. Would be happy to have Morris back, and maybe get in Parkinson-Blackburn as a low average reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbobee Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Plus it's been said anywhere (yet) that your top rider has to ride at number one anyway! Agreed - I can see Kenneth Bjerre riding at No 1 for Bees and Danny K at 5 ....despite their averages saying different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 He was over for the Olympique and rumoured to be wanting a team place here. Ah ok thanks for the clarification 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Agreed - I can see Kenneth Bjerre riding at No 1 for Bees and Danny K at 5 ....despite their averages saying different. Im sure the year Kenneth had his best season he was at number 5. Might be worth putting him at 5 if it's what works best for him. Otherwise I'd have Garrity at 5 to ride with Sarj and Bates, meaning to the two Bjerre together and King/Kerr together. Basically, I'd not have King at 5, whatever route we go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Anyone think maybe Bridger could be at Wolves? only if he's doing a stretch in prison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I think its critical that we sign Masters. Then we have 2 heat leaders who are capable of improvement (Thorssell the other) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 dragged oevr to the correct thread... SCB - as you are the respected wise sage of the forum, is Howarth a poor/expensive signing on that average ? Sorry - wrong thread. It depends how you want to look at it. You can simply take his EL figure and multiply by 1.4 and if his PL average is higher, it's a poor value signing. So he got 5.1, multiplied by 1.4 and you get 7.147 and his EL average is.....7.18 so looks about right. But, you could look at it that his EL average was mostly from reserve. Using my weighted averages (which you now have to divide by 40 and multiply by 50 and then mulitply by 1.4) I'd say he should be nearer 6.72. But ultimately, it's not a million miles from being wrong. Only thing I will say is that his average was achieved with a home/away split (with bonus points) of 8.32/7.81 so nothing in it. While in the EL he was 7.33/5.01. Suggesting as he'll now have some home advantage on that average that he didn't have last season he's actually a very good signing. I'm not sure if I've convinced myself he's good, bad or ok as a signing there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 of his last 20 meetings, he rode 13 as HL, 2 as 2nd strong, 5 as reserve. Kerr/Bates/Sarj spent their time bewteen 2nd strong and reserve. I would say without a doubt Klindt is 2 points better than those riders, SCB's "weighted average" stats from last year reflect this. And of course, his average is in fact lower that both Kerr and Sarjeant. that said, Kerr was somewhat disapointing last year, having been arguably the pick of the draft riders the previous year, and Bates has a lot of improvement to come. I'd still be highly surpised if Klindt does not average 1.5 more than any of those others, even though i expect the others to spend much more time in the easier reserve berth. The averages being used are the ones attained in PL racing though, Klindt has a five point PL average for a reason, a similar figure to Kerr, Bates, Sarjeant etc. Most people averages around six in the EL, because the race format was awful. So to say he is that much better than them is simply not true, particularly when the Premiership is going to be slightly stronger PL teams as opposed to weaker EL sides. Klindt won't be averaging 1.5 more than them in 2017 in the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 dragged oevr to the correct thread... It depends how you want to look at it. You can simply take his EL figure and multiply by 1.4 and if his PL average is higher, it's a poor value signing. So he got 5.1, multiplied by 1.4 and you get 7.147 and his EL average is.....7.18 so looks about right. But, you could look at it that his EL average was mostly from reserve. Using my weighted averages (which you now have to divide by 40 and multiply by 50 and then mulitply by 1.4) I'd say he should be nearer 6.72. But ultimately, it's not a million miles from being wrong. Only thing I will say is that his average was achieved with a home/away split (with bonus points) of 8.32/7.81 so nothing in it. While in the EL he was 7.33/5.01. Suggesting as he'll now have some home advantage on that average that he didn't have last season he's actually a very good signing. I'm not sure if I've convinced myself he's good, bad or ok as a signing there I thought you said Horton had signed all the decent Brits? The averages being used are the ones attained in PL racing though, Klindt has a five point PL average for a reason, a similar figure to Kerr, Bates, Sarjeant etc. Most people averages around six in the EL, because the race format was awful. So to say he is that much better than them is simply not true, particularly when the Premiership is going to be slightly stronger PL teams as opposed to weaker EL sides. Klindt won't be averaging 1.5 more than them in 2017 in the Premiership. Will a member of the BSPA give us all an early Christmas present and announce the signing of Nic bloody Klindt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 dragged oevr to the correct thread... It depends how you want to look at it. You can simply take his EL figure and multiply by 1.4 and if his PL average is higher, it's a poor value signing. So he got 5.1, multiplied by 1.4 and you get 7.147 and his EL average is.....7.18 so looks about right. But, you could look at it that his EL average was mostly from reserve. Using my weighted averages (which you now have to divide by 40 and multiply by 50 and then mulitply by 1.4) I'd say he should be nearer 6.72. But ultimately, it's not a million miles from being wrong. Only thing I will say is that his average was achieved with a home/away split (with bonus points) of 8.32/7.81 so nothing in it. While in the EL he was 7.33/5.01. Suggesting as he'll now have some home advantage on that average that he didn't have last season he's actually a very good signing. I'm not sure if I've convinced myself he's good, bad or ok as a signing there Thank you, I'm totally clear now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 The averages being used are the ones attained in PL racing though, Klindt has a five point PL average for a reason, a similar figure to Kerr, Bates, Sarjeant etc. Most people averages around six in the EL, because the race format was awful. So to say he is that much better than them is simply not true, particularly when the Premiership is going to be slightly stronger PL teams as opposed to weaker EL sides. Klindt won't be averaging 1.5 more than them in 2017 in the Premiership. He only rode 4 pl meetings last year, so his SCB weighted El average is a much better gauge. He averaged over 7 in the pl in 2015. Lets see cone end of season which of those 4 riders averages the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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