szkocjasid Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Remember that once new averages are out, David Howe would be available on 4.80 rather than 6.72 and that will make him an attractive signing for most teams but I think he would love to ride for Leicester as his home town. How do the new averages work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Remember that once new averages are out, David Howe would be available on 4.80 rather than 6.72 and that will make him an attractive signing for most teams but I think he would love to ride for Leicester as his home town. You are probably right but haven't seen anything confirmed anywhere!!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 Remember that once new averages are out, David Howe would be available on 4.80 rather than 6.72 and that will make him an attractive signing for most teams but I think he would love to ride for Leicester as his home town.I'm not sure that's right? I'd assume there should still be a multiplier, but perhaps a 1.2 rather than 1.4. Given the league is perhaps 20% weaker this season there SHOULD still be a multiplier for any prior season averages. Otherwise teams would have just waited a month then re declared with the likes of holder/Doyle added? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 25, 2017 Report Share Posted February 25, 2017 'You assume', but still not seen anything confirmed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 All averages at present are set to the old Premier League level but once new averages are in effect then the Elite average or assessed average by 1.4 would come into effect if a rider was joining a team in the Premiership and didn't have an old Elite average. Those that have an Elite average like Kylmakorpi who hasn't got a team place come back on their old Elite average so in the case of David Howe he would be available around May on 4.80 but remember riders averages who are riding will see averages drop quite a bit by then. Would like to see David back but can't see him fitting in at Wolves unless it's to cover for an injury and think he may get his chance in the Championship on his 6.72 first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Those that have an Elite average like Kylmakorpi who hasn't got a team place come back on their old Elite average so in the case of David Howe he would be available around May on 4.80 but remember riders averages who are riding will see averages drop quite a bit by then. As far as I know there has been no confirmation whatsoever as to what the revised team limit for the Prem will be or what multiplier may apply to certain sets of averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 As far as I know there has been no confirmation whatsoever as to what the revised team limit for the Prem will be or what multiplier may apply to certain sets of averages. Must admit I can't find anything. It's no clearer from the SCB rules on averages either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 The point limit drops to 42 once new averages are in effect in both leagues which means it's hard to bring in a better rider but some may have very false averages thanks to unexplained engine failure or missed meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 42 points confirmed in the SCB rules and regs - but nothing specific about individual rider averages without a starting team place!!! (All open to BSPA assessment I guess?!) ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Premiership revert back to Elite averages and Championship to Premier averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZodiac Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 BSPA site this morning saying that Masters has been signed by Edinburgh as a full asset. It does beg the question that if he was available to be signed why didn't Wolves sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 The point limit drops to 42 once new averages are in effect in both leagues which means it's hard to bring in a better rider but some may have very false averages thanks to unexplained engine failure or missed meetings.It won't be very hard at all. A couple of bad results and a team could easily be averaging around 38/39. Are you really suggesting that an 8 point El rider could then come in on an 8, rather than the 11.2 they would gave done at the start of the season?!?So team building average drops by 15%, but new riders team buildinf averages drops by 30% compared to the start of the season? Surely they can't make such a hash of things? Then again, ftom the people who failed to foresee the havoc the EL heat format would have on averages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 It won't be very hard at all. A couple of bad results and a team could easily be averaging around 38/39. Are you really suggesting that an 8 point El rider could then come in on an 8, rather than the 11.2 they would gave done at the start of the season?!? So team building average drops by 15%, but new riders team buildinf averages drops by 30% compared to the start of the season? Surely they can't make such a hash of things? Then again, ftom the people who failed to foresee the havoc the EL heat format would have on averages... When the limit drops to 42 then any new rider coming in should be, to use your example, the 8 and not the 11.2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 BSPA site this morning saying that Masters has been signed by Edinburgh as a full asset. It does beg the question that if he was available to be signed why didn't Wolves sign him? Getting CVS to open his wallet is harder than getting rid of Corbyn. It's possible that there'll be 1 league in 2018, Edinburgh may be securing their #1 should that come about. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Getting CVS to open his wallet is harder than getting rid of Corbyn. It's possible that there'll be 1 league in 2018, Edinburgh may be securing their #1 should that come about. They rather spend their money to make Matt Williamson and Ash Morris Wolves assets. If there,s any left over in the kitty,about making Stevebrum our number 8,that should suit our budget. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Getting CVS to open his wallet is harder than getting rid of Corbyn. It's possible that there'll be 1 league in 2018, Edinburgh may be securing their #1 should that come about. If that was the case, not much point in us purchasing Masters then really? I was a little surprised when I saw Edinburgh had signed him, but tbh, in the current climate, any point in us spending money to make him an asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted March 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 If that was the case, not much point in us purchasing Masters then really? I was a little surprised when I saw Edinburgh had signed him, but tbh, in the current climate, any point in us spending money to make him an asset? TBH I thought Freddie was older than he is and Masters younger than he is so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 BSPA site this morning saying that Masters has been signed by Edinburgh as a full asset. It does beg the question that if he was available to be signed why didn't Wolves sign him? I asked this very question at the talk in in November and is covered in my report of it on here. Basically CVS thinks it's not worth buying contracts of riders because of their availability and long term isn't worth it. Or something like that. They rather spend their money to make Matt Williamson and Ash Morris Wolves assets. If there,s any left over in the kitty,about making Stevebrum our number 8,that should suit our budget. Do I still have to pay to get in? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I asked this very question at the talk in in November and is covered in my report of it on here. Basically CVS thinks it's not worth buying contracts of riders because of their availability and long term isn't worth it. Or something like that. Do I still have to pay to get in? Great response SB!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 When the limit drops to 42 then any new rider coming in should be, to use your example, the 8 and not the 11.2.Why should they be an 8? If they are an 8 it means that once the first averages are in there is an effective 15% increase in tram building limit.To be fair the conversion should be about 1.25 atvthe stage. Otherwise swindon for example would have been better off waiting a month and then signing Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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