Call me wolfie Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sam Masters has posted on twitter some news coming soon with a british flag!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Brilliant stuff, a once mildly useful second string comes of of retirement, Lets give him a GP Spot. Lindgren was a teenager in 2004 and has qualified for next years GP's. Skornikci is older than me, post something relevant. Greg Hancock is four years older than Skornicki. It's abundantly clear you haven't the slightest clue about Skornicki, his past efforts for Wolves nor the form he was in when he last rode in this country. Folk have tried to help you out and explain things but you've continued to dig a deeper hole, who knows for what reason. Not only that but you seem insistent on not reading the thread. Skornicki's average is 7.22, that has been clarified several times. That equates to effectively an EL average of just over 5. If you don't think he is capable of at LEAST matching that in this watered down product then your speedway knowledge is severely lacking. 'Should have selected', forsooth! What do you expect, CVS to weld Klindt into black and gold kevlars? Harris to sign under duress? Klindt opted for Poole, a track which should suit his style anyway (and no, I haven't checked his scores there) and there seems to be a fair bit of investment at Rye judging by the team assembled. Riders go where riders go. Putting together a team isn't fantasy speedway. I'm not knocking your selection, just the implied assumption that one picks the names, clicks the fingers and that's that. His listed team was hardly inspiring anyway. Manzares over Skornicki? Be serious. I'm perfectly happy with Thorssell over Harris. The only rider that has slipped the net is Klindt, that's been covered. Aside from that question marks over Howarth on his average, BUT if he can maintain the form he showed towards the end of last season he'll do ok. Edited December 7, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Somerset - Tungate, Grajczonek and Hougaard Coventry - King, Garrity and Bjerre Poole - Kasprzak, Andersen and ? Rye House - Kennett, Nicholls and Harris Swindon - Doyle, Morris and Ellis Kings Lynn - ? ( Fricke, Lambert and Batchelor maybe) Leicester - ? Belle Vue - ? (Cook, Worrall and Worrall possibly) You can see why Wolves are going with a strong top three in Lindgren, Thorssell and Masters as that trio are as strong as any others and while the benefits can be seen in only having two big hitters and a more balanced remaining five, you need race winners and in reality all three are ten point riders. So presuming they are getting a 2.00 reserve, who is the best option upto 7.53 ? Skornicki offers more than Ty Proctor in my opinion and with Rory Schlein doubling up, do they really need another rider who could be unavailable at times. Batchelor is likely to be back at Kings Lynn on a bargain average which leaves riders like Berge, Riss or Ostergaard as others doubling up but in Tobiasz Museliak they have a club asset on a modest 6.34 average and will do better than two years ago and certainly ridden more than Skornicki and Proctor during the last few years, Lindgren 10.09 Museliak 6.34 Masters 8.97 Howarth 7.18 Thorssell 9.89 Clegg 4.34 2.00 - 3.19 Luke Bowen had a 3.00 average and has experience so could be worth considering as he would be full time if he is still riding, otherwise maybe Parkinson-Blackburn or Smith from Birminghams team last season. Greg Hancock is four years older than Skornicki. It's abundantly clear you haven't the slightest clue about Skornicki, Hancock 46 Skornicki 40 That's a difference of ? Edited December 7, 2016 by INCOGNITO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Hancock 46 Skornicki 40 That's a difference of ? Four-- ish Edited December 7, 2016 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Four-- ish Was expecting you to say the increased difference merely underlined your point! Missed the chance of a comeback there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Was expecting you to say the increased difference merely underlined your point! Missed the chance of a comeback there! I thought about it, but I'd made a boo boo so no time to be clever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I thought about it, but I'd made a boo boo so no time to be clever! Doesn't normally bother you... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Doesn't normally bother you... Now now,.. If I'm wrong on something factual I don't mind being corrected I'd got it in my head Adam was a year older than me, not a year younger for some reason. Which can't be correct in all honesty, speedway riders, nor indeed sports stars in general can't be younger than me.. after all, when I grow up I will be one. Edited December 7, 2016 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Skornicki is 7.22 confirmed by CVS. Justification for this reduction is what? Greg Hancock is four years older than Skornicki. It's abundantly clear you haven't the slightest clue about Skornicki, his past efforts for Wolves nor the form he was in when he last rode in this country. Folk have tried to help you out and explain things but you've continued to dig a deeper hole, who knows for what reason. Not only that but you seem insistent on not reading the thread. Skornicki's average is 7.22, that has been clarified several times. That equates to effectively an EL average of just over 5. If you don't think he is capable of at LEAST matching that in this watered down product then your speedway knowledge is severely lacking. His listed team was hardly inspiring anyway. Manzares over Skornicki? Be serious. I'm perfectly happy with Thorssell over Harris. The only rider that has slipped the net is Klindt, that's been covered. Aside from that question marks over Howarth on his average, BUT if he can maintain the form he showed towards the end of last season he'll do ok. It is clear that you are delirious. Hancock is 4 years older than Skornicki but about 15 times a more capable rider. Howarth was obviously signed as a required second Brit, along with Clegg. If you'd signed Harris over Thorsell you wouldn't have signed Howarth. He is hopeless around Monmore. Manzarez would be a risk worth taking. I've watched enough of Adam Skornicki at Monmore that I don't feel the need to watch it again. 'Should have selected', forsooth! What do you expect, CVS to weld Klindt into black and gold kevlars? Harris to sign under duress? Klindt opted for Poole, a track which should suit his style anyway (and no, I haven't checked his scores there) and there seems to be a fair bit of investment at Rye judging by the team assembled. Riders go where riders go. Putting together a team isn't fantasy speedway. I'm not knocking your selection, just the implied assumption that one picks the names, clicks the fingers and that's that. Soft touch. Harris would earn his pension fund at Wolves, no doubt. If Wolves wanted to dominate the league they would have offered Klindt the same money Poole did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) In reality Adam has missed three seasons as 2014 at Birmingham was wiped out and with injuries and the time away plus his age then the reduction is justified and other riders have been reduced in less time. Personally I would like to see Tobiaz Musielak bought back as he is more likely to step up and less of a gamble Edited December 8, 2016 by T.N.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Justification for this reduction is what? It is clear that you are delirious. Hancock is 4 years older than Skornicki but about 15 times a more capable rider. Howarth was obviously signed as a required second Brit, along with Clegg. If you'd signed Harris over Thorsell you wouldn't have signed Howarth. He is hopeless around Monmore. Manzarez would be a risk worth taking. I've watched enough of Adam Skornicki at Monmore that I don't feel the need to watch it again. Soft touch. Harris would earn his pension fund at Wolves, no doubt. If Wolves wanted to dominate the league they would have offered Klindt the same money Poole did. How do you work that one out ? Manzares the rider that couldn't achieve a high enough average to qualify for a work permit the following season in the Premier League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) It is clear that you are delirious. Hancock is 4 years older than Skornicki but about 15 times a more capable rider. Howarth was obviously signed as a required second Brit, along with Clegg. If you'd signed Harris over Thorsell you wouldn't have signed Howarth. He is hopeless around Monmore. Manzarez would be a risk worth taking. I've watched enough of Adam Skornicki at Monmore that I don't feel the need to watch it again. Why would you want to sign Harris over Thorssell, a rider whom you have watched develop year on year and is now blossoming into a very good rider? If you'd watched ANY of Adam Skornicki at Monmore you wouldn't be trolling the thread with this nonsense of him being 15 years past his best. He's been the same consistent second string/3rd heat leader for Wolves for over a decade. Solid as a rock, will finish the year between 6 and 7 average and can beat anyone on his day. As for Howarth ( a signing I questioned ).. how do you assert he was 'obviously' signed as the second Brit? Have Wolves completed their team then? Personally I would like to see Tobiaz Musielak bought back as he is more likely to step up and less of a gamble I can see the thinking behind this.. but.. a few bad races at Monmore, like happened in his previous year and his confidence could soon go. I'd actually say it's more of a gamble but with a potential higher pay off. Edited December 8, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outofdarkness Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Justification for this reduction is what? It is clear that you are delirious. Hancock is 4 years older than Skornicki but about 15 times a more capable rider. Howarth was obviously signed as a required second Brit, along with Clegg. If you'd signed Harris over Thorsell you wouldn't have signed Howarth. He is hopeless around Monmore. Manzarez would be a risk worth taking. I've watched enough of Adam Skornicki at Monmore that I don't feel the need to watch it again. Soft touch. Harris would earn his pension fund at Wolves, no doubt. If Wolves wanted to dominate the league they would have offered Klindt the same money Poole did. So you think that all you have to do is wave a wad of cash and riders will queue up to ride for us.BEHAVE.Get in the real world.A rider will ride where they want to ride and it will depend on various factors not just money.Also just because you would like to see Bomber at Wolves it doesn't mean the promotion do,although i would have liked to have seen him at Wolves.The promotion possibly would have liked Chris but sometimes things don't work out.As regards to Klindt he obviously didn't want to ride for us so why try to force someone to do something they don't want to do.Lets double his money,will that change his mind. ....probably not and if it did his heart wouldn't be in it. I personally would prefer 7 riders who want to ride for us and give 110% effort Edited December 8, 2016 by outofdarkness 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 If Wolves wanted to dominate the league they would have offered Klindt the same money Poole did. Wolves fans have only themselves to blame for te reason Klindt won't go back to wolves. And to add insult to injury he actually lives in Wolverhampton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Justification for this reduction is what? no idea, best ask the BSPA if you want to know more. He won't even match that average anyway as according to you he is well past his sell by date. Wolves fans have only themselves to blame for te reason Klindt won't go back to wolves. And to add insult to injury he actually lives in Wolverhampton.Have you spoke to Nic to find out his reasons?You are quoting words given as a possible reason. Edited December 8, 2016 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outofdarkness Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 no idea, best ask the BSPA if you want to know more. He won't even match that average anyway as according to you he is well past his sell by date. Have you spoke to Nic to find out his reasons? You are quoting words given as a possible reason. As a professional speedway rider im sure Nic has enough about him to realise just because there has been a few neg heads saying he's not good enough wouldn't effect his decision where to ride.The best way to have dealt with that was to prove the doubters wrong and win the Wolves fans over.I for one believe e made a decision who to ride for taking many different things into account. But hey ho thats his decision no one else made his mind up and good luck to the lad for next season Wolves fans have only themselves to blame for te reason Klindt won't go back to wolves. And to add insult to injury he actually lives in Wolverhampton. Whats this ...have a go at the Wolves fans for having an opinion. If a few people on social media have really made his mind up not to ride for us I'd be very surprised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Wolves fans have only themselves to blame for te reason Klindt won't go back to wolves. And to add insult to injury he actually lives in Wolverhampton. Yes, it's well known that speedway riders -- high-speed, no-brakes motorcyclists -- are, to a man, members of Generation Snowflake whose every career move is swayed by the utterances of a few fans on social media. Try harder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Tbh I think its because Nicolai wants to become an Elite league winner. No point joining Wolves considering they only win the title once in every 7 years. Yeah no challenge for Nic to do it with Wolves, having been a member of the 2009 title side. Better to have a go with someone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outofdarkness Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Tbh I think its because Nicolai wants to become an Elite league winner. No point joining Wolves considering they only win the title once in every 7 years. He won't be a elite league winner for 2 reasons.The Elite league doesn't exist and Poole won't be good enough .so put that is ya big poole pipe and smoke it. Edited December 8, 2016 by outofdarkness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yes, it's well known that speedway riders -- high-speed, no-brakes motorcyclists -- are, to a man, members of Generation Snowflake whose every career move is swayed by the utterances of a few fans on social media. Try harder. Although, wasn't it the Wolves promotion who have stated this was a significant reason? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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