Wolves 2017

[foreverblue]

Um nope! Norrie at the time was asking for double what Mark was on the year before because he was world champion! Matt could not balance the books on those wage demands as was not going to put the long term future of the club in jepody.

Quite right, pretty sure that was the case at the time, getting Rickardsson for less money than Loram was a bit of a no brainer i would have thought.

[Ben91]

 

I'm sure Poole can enhance Klindt's wallet. Can they do it when they have to fit his Danish fixtures around Andersen's Danish fixtures. Let me guess Klindt will start at reserve for the Pirates attaining an average much above his current starting average, then we shall see Harris, Nicholls & Lambert will spend the rest of the season guesting as a replacement for him as he is unavailable for Poole's remaining fixtures due to his danish league commitments.

 

Do you enjoy supporting a corrupt bunch of ****** that are destroying Speedway in the UK?

 

I still harbour hopes that Wolves will sign Klindt as he is there asset, CVS & Adams know a rider on a stupid average when they see one.

 

Have yo managed to Pimp Cyfer to a NL team yet, if not work to do.

 

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

[Panthers89]

 

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

 

Tend to agree, Klindts average will go up, but to make a mockery off it, no chance. Guys had that tag for about 4-5 seasons now, and were still waiting.......

[Gunner85]

Klindt is Mr Inconsistency. Even in the same meeting he can ride brilliantly in one race and then like a novice for the other 3.

 

Would not want him in my team

Edited November 26, 2016 by Gunner85

[diamond_ren]

Klindt is Mr Inconsistency. Even in the same meeting he can ride brilliantly in one race and then like a novice for the other 3.

 

Would not want him in my team

Couldn't agree more I seen him at Newcastle a few seasons back when he rode for Scunthorpe he was absolutely pathetic. He should still add a point plus to his average though considering some of the riders he'll be up against

[SteveLyric2]

Just to be clear on any potential Danish fixture clashes, Hans was instructed by Matt Ford - stated publicly in the paper - to ensure there were no fixture clashes if he was to honour year 2 of the agreement! I guess the same would be said to any potential Danish League rider.

 

Also the Danish league operates with a squad system so not every rider signed for a Danish club has to take part in every fixture.

[phillipsr]

 

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

Spot on, hes a bang average rider will maybe add half a point

[STEVEHOLS54]

Couldn't agree more I seen him at Newcastle a few seasons back when he rode for Scunthorpe he was absolutely pathetic. He should still add a point plus to his average though considering some of the riders he'll be up against

Maybe take a look at his last seasons Nice Polish av. Think we would all agree this league is at least the equiv (if not better) than our new Prem.

 

13 matches - 63 rides - av 1.825 per ride incl bonus = 7.30 match av

 

Compare to a certain Mr Scott Nichols who is rated 2 places lower at 33 in the Polish Nice riders av

 

13 matches - 65 rides - av 1.80 per ride incl bonus = 7.20 match av.

 

The obvious is that one is a no brainer at reserve in the new Prem and the second is now second heat leader at Rye House.

 

Maybe he was not so hot in P/L last season but if I didn't know better I would say maybe he was privy to some inside info on how the team building was going to pan out this year using the old P/L averages ;-)

 

Would be one hell of a conspiracy theory huh ??

[Gavan]

Quite right, pretty sure that was the case at the time, getting Rickardsson for less money than Loram was a bit of a no brainer i would have thought.

had this discussion before. Norrie asked for a world champions salary for Mark. Matt Ford refused and then brought in the 3 time world champion for more money then Mark. Dont get me wrong Tony was a better rider than Mark and Norrie asked for a rise. Poole still paid Tony more than Mark and that is a fact. Poole have money if the need to use it

[Tommy Sweetman]

 

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

Correct.

Klindt will win races if he can emerge from the second bend in front.But if not,i wouldn't bank on him beating a two pointer from the back.

[Pirates Of Poole]

had this discussion before. Norrie asked for a world champions salary for Mark. Matt Ford refused and then brought in the 3 time world champion for more money then Mark. Dont get me wrong Tony was a better rider than Mark and Norrie asked for a rise. Poole still paid Tony more than Mark and that is a fact. Poole have money if the need to use it

had this discussion before. Norrie asked for a world champions salary for Mark. Matt Ford refused and then brought in the 3 time world champion for more money then Mark. Dont get me wrong Tony was a better rider than Mark and Norrie asked for a rise. Poole still paid Tony more than Mark and that is a fact. Poole have money if the need to use it

A 'fact' can I see some proof then? In 2001 Tony was paid less than Mark was asking.

[Wolfsbane]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not the case at all. Matt Ford is certainly not known for cheque book spedway. He is known to be a hard negotiator as riders have previously discovered. What he does offer is payment on time, and the rider has a good opportunity to pick up local sponsorship with plenty of companies having links with the club. Plus a Wednesday suits many riders.

 

I know for a fact tat Matt Ford has missed out on signing riders this winter due to being outbid by other clubs. Prime example is a certain dane who has ended at a midlands club with his bruv. (Which I am personally pleased about)

 

Milik also turned Matt down having had a better offer from Sweden. Just because Poole are successful doesn't mean Matt Ford waives the cash. He runs a tight ship and thats the reason there's never been any financial issues under his command.

 

 

correct. In fact Matt Ford doesn't get involved in cheque book speedway.

You can try Steve

[INCOGNITO]

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

 

Most riders are over inflated in their averages and most will struggle to maintain that average and in some cases see their averages drop by one to two points but Klindt can average 5.42 without hassle and starting at reserve he can improve it. Also as a second string you are looking for him to score something like 1 1 2 1 which will give you heat advantages but at reserve your looking more like a score of 3. 1 2 1 = 7. and when you look at other riders around the 5.5 mark he is better than most and if he does go to Poole he will be the best reserve around.

 

 

Lindgren, Thorssell, Masters and Clegg seem to be four of the riders for next years team so just over 17 left and if you add a 2.00 reserve like Parkinson-Blackburn then you could add Kylmakorpi and Klindt or even Museliak and one from Mikkel Bech, Robert Lambert or Anders Thomsen.

 

1 Fredrik Lindgren

2 Tobias Museliak

3 Sam Masters

4 Mikkel Bech / Anders Thomsen

5 Jacob Thorssell

6 Max Clegg

7 Parkinson-Blackburn / 2.00

[Gavan]

A 'fact' can I see some proof then? In 2001 Tony was paid less than Mark was asking.

Im not going over old ground. I know the Loram family and i know exactly what went on. Mark wasnt impressed with what Norrie did, but Tony was offered and paid more than Mark including transport. The way Norrie tried to negotiate didnt sit well with Matt Ford and quite rightly he turned elsewhere.

I cant prove facts to you but Tony was on more than Mark was offered. Mark never had an issue with Matt hence his farewell meeting was there but Matt and Norrie didnt see eye to eye

 

Anyway this is the Wolves thread so apologies

Edited November 26, 2016 by Gavan

[New Science]

 

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

Gating is very important at Monmore these days.

[Red Flag]

Gating is very important at Monmore these days.

Gating is important anywhere

[JCookie]

Klindt hasn't been as good since that Ricko meeting about 10 years ago. Although to be fair he was fantastic then, god knows how he ended up being a 5pt rider in PL.

[Starman2006]

Im not going over old ground. I know the Loram family and i know exactly what went on. Mark wasnt impressed with what Norrie did, but Tony was offered and paid more than Mark including transport. The way Norrie tried to negotiate didnt sit well with Matt Ford and quite rightly he turned elsewhere.

I cant prove facts to you but Tony was on more than Mark was offered. Mark never had an issue with Matt hence his farewell meeting was there but Matt and Norrie didnt see eye to eye

 

Anyway this is the Wolves thread so apologies

Funny that, Norrie chats openly to Matt when Leicester come down in Matts office, and had long in depth chat with him the night Somerset won the league just the sort of thing i would expect from you.Think that answers your question...

 

Sorry Wolves fans you can have your thread back.

Edited November 26, 2016 by Starman2006

[waiheke1]

 

I don't understand why people think Klindt is going to make a mockery of his average. His average went up in the EL because his home track was a gater's paradise and he's a gating tart. He averaged over eight at home and about five away, take him away from a track like Leicester and he's going to average between 5-6, that's why his average riding for Scunthorpe isn't higher.

He averaged 6 last year. Riding in the EL which was a higher standard than the Premiership. Riding pre dominantly as hl in a format which pitted him pre dominantly against other hl.

He should put at least a point on his average this year, whereas most other riders will drop a point. Basically he's a couple of points better than any other rider on a comparable average.

Gating is important anywhere

And always has been. That's why Ivan won the world champs 6 times and greg 4 times, whereas pc and gollob won it once each.

[Aces51]

Gating is important but more so at certain tracks. The racing at Monmore isn't as good as it used to be but it is far from being a gaters paradise.

 

PC would probably have won again in 1977 but for breaking his leg so badly the week before the final. He still finished second to Ivan.