stevebrum Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Skornicki isn't eligible for a reduction. He's only missed 2 seasons. It's not like he just missed 2 seasons in the UK, he hasn't ridden at all for 2 seasons. Not sure if that would affect the ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Klindt.....why Klindt.I liked the lad when he rode for us but I've seen him ride since i think he is very poor.If he gates,of which these days he doesn't seem to,he can generate speed,but surely there are better options out there.Is Proctor fit? ,Skorka would be less a gamble than Klindt.Klindt is available on a lower average than he managed riding as a hl in 2016. Most other riders are on averages 1.4 or more times higher than their 2016 averages, and many of those had inflated 2016 averages from riding as we'd string orc reserve.Klindt is by dome margin the best value signing available in the league. That is why Klindt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I must be having a brain fade as the BSPA site has Clegg on 4.34. I know I've seen 4.04 a while back. What have I missed? http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/pl16_issue_final_1.pdf Not alone WB as I had him on 4.04 and almost replied to Col's post as such!! must have come from a penultimate PL average. It's not like he just missed 2 seasons in the UK, he hasn't ridden at all for 2 seasons. Not sure if that would affect the ruling. I'm sure CVS could put in a reassessment request which the MC would consider favourably?! Anyway, 2nd signing announcement for you tomorrow (Monday). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I'm sure CVS could put in a reassessment request which the MC would consider favourably?! Anyway, 2nd signing announcement for you tomorrow (Monday). Not sure he is even in our plans but I'd like to think any team planning to give him a go would ask for a reduction. Thorssell I'd imagine next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 If Adam is 7.00 then I think he is more suited to the championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 If Adam is 7.00 then I think he is more suited to the championship But it would still be subject to X 1.4 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 But it would still be subject to X 1.4 ? I'm not sure what Adam's ave is I was going off Incognito's post, if he is 7 then to risky in premiership perhaps worth a risk in championship, if it's subject to x 1.4 then it's 9.8 and surely to much a risk at either level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I'm not sure what Adam's ave is I was going off Incognito's post, if he is 7 then to risky in premiership perhaps worth a risk in championship, if it's subject to x 1.4 then it's 9.8 and surely to much a risk at either level I found one from 2014 of 6.66 as his outgoing average from Birmingham so I'm assuming that is the last valid one? A reassessment surely is needed that's one figure for fairness because that would still work out to 9.3. I hope Sqora isn't averaged out of racing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I found one from 2014 of 6.66 as his outgoing average from Birmingham so I'm assuming that is the last valid one? A reassessment surely is needed that's one figure for fairness because that would still work out to 9.3. I hope Sqora isn't averaged out of racing here. Would be brave for anyone to take him on over 9.00 I fear, Do we actually know if he is looking to ride over here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Sqora's comments at the end of season meetings suggested he would prefer PL/Championship level - but that was before the AGM!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 If he averaged 6.6 last time he was over here then 9.3 is fair. You all need to stop looking at averages as what a rider will score but a relative worth of a rider. On average every rider will drop about a point. So can Adam average 8.3? Well in a PL level league (which is what the Premiership is now) he can. No rider has ever been re-assessed for missing 2 seasons before, so why start now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Would be brave for anyone to take him on over 9.00 I fear, Do we actually know if he is looking to ride over here he is, he mentioned it in the last wolves programme this year but preferably at div 2 level. I agree it's risky but I hope someone takes a chance. No rider has ever been re-assessed for missing 2 seasons before, so why start now? Big difference tho. He hasn't ridden at all in 2 seasons. Injury has prevented that along with his Polish manager commitments. A bit different no? Too risky on 9.3 for any top flight team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I wasnt looking at his average against what he may score I was looking at his ave relative to total points available and for me over 9 out of 50 or 40 depending on league is too much of a risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Big difference tho. He hasn't ridden at all in 2 seasons. Injury has prevented that along with his Polish manager commitments. A bit different no? Too risky on 9.3 for any top flight team. There is no difference. A rider DOES NOT get a reduction for not riding for two season. It's 3 seasons minimum. There have been many riders over the years come out of retirement, they get no reduction. Why should Adam be different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted November 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 There is no difference. A rider DOES NOT get a reduction for not riding for two season. It's 3 seasons minimum. There have been many riders over the years come out of retirement, they get no reduction. Why should Adam be different? Having said that if he should head for Dorsetshire again then a reassessment would no doubt be in order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 pretty sure wolves are going to put together the pre season 2017 premiership favourites,sometimes the numbers just fall in to place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted November 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) pretty sure wolves are going to put together the pre season 2017 premiership favourites,sometimes the numbers just fall in to place Will make a pleasant change. We're usually the arse draggers Edited November 20, 2016 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 There is no difference. A rider DOES NOT get a reduction for not riding for two season. It's 3 seasons minimum. There have been many riders over the years come out of retirement, they get no reduction. Why should Adam be different? I can't think of another rider that has come out of a 2 year retirement and stayed on same top flight average other than Todd Wiltshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 So your next rider gets announced. Judging by the reports last week jacob thorssell must be favourite right now. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clambo71 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I take it you have seen both riders on several occasions? I have watched a lot of premier league speedway and I can assure you both riders will get mullered in the new premier league.They are on 5ish aveerages for a reason. While I'm at it whats all this talk about Gino Manzares on several threads all these three are middle order championship riders at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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