BWitcher Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Let's be honest and fair everyone, no way should Tai've come in on a 7 average, as World Champion he realistically should've been an 8.5. He had a crap year when he obtained that 7! Let's be honest and fair. Tai's average was 7.03, achieved over a FULL Season in pretty much the same format. Absolutely 100% the correct average to come in on. If anyone has an issue with it, they've pretty much got an issue with every season of league speedway since pts limits were introduced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Let's be honest and fair. Tai's average was 7.03, achieved over a FULL Season in pretty much the same format. Absolutely 100% the correct average to come in on. If anyone has an issue with it, they've pretty much got an issue with every season of league speedway since pts limits were introduced. And not one person complained how poorly that affected our year in 2014 (wolves fans aside!). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Let's be honest and fair. Tai's average was 7.03, achieved over a FULL Season in pretty much the same format. Absolutely 100% the correct average to come in on. If anyone has an issue with it, they've pretty much got an issue with every season of league speedway since pts limits were introduced. You could fit the Purfleet track inside most Polish & Swedish tracks. How is it even mildly representative if you do that? Shall we include the USA & Australia? How on Earth do you factor those in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 To cut costs and also to counter act the moves being put in place in Poland, Britain are looking to stop all GP riders from riding in the Elite League and any rider that has a high average or a recent foreign GP rider like Andreas Jonsson or Peter Kildemand so next season it's unlikely you will see Doyle, Iversen, Zagar, Jonsson, Holder, Kasprzak or Lindgren if this goes ahead. This is also to help some tracks move up to the Elite League with Somerset, Sheffield, Rye House, Glasgow and Edinburgh being asked to join the Elite League and possibly three of those making the switch.This would mean riders like Harris, Cook, Lambert and King would be the main top riders along with Masters and Thorssell. If this does happen and it's very likely to go somewhere along those lines, Sam Masters and heat leaders wouldn't be possibly be allowed to double up as they would be a number one in both leagues, so riders doubling up would more be the likes of Max Clegg, Joe Jacobs, Stefan Nielsen and could see the number seven rider being a National League draft. So the Wolves team could be something along the lines of Jacob Thorssell, Chris Harris, Tobiasz Musielak, Gino Manzares, Ashley Morris, Max Clegg and Matt Williamson. Maybe not looking that strong, but they would all be along the same strengths and at least it gives more scope for British riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted October 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Might as well just have the Spoons 1-7 from this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Does anybody else find max clegg riding for wolves just wrong , this is nothing personal against max clegg just how did we get to the point where a spoon also rides for wolves . Its bad enough that they squat at our home , It's just wrong Edited October 21, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 To cut costs and also to counter act the moves being put in place in Poland, Britain are looking to stop all GP riders from riding in the Elite League and any rider that has a high average or a recent foreign GP rider like Andreas Jonsson or Peter Kildemand so next season it's unlikely you will see Doyle, Iversen, Zagar, Jonsson, Holder, Kasprzak or Lindgren if this goes ahead. This is also to help some tracks move up to the Elite League with Somerset, Sheffield, Rye House, Glasgow and Edinburgh being asked to join the Elite League and possibly three of those making the switch.This would mean riders like Harris, Cook, Lambert and King would be the main top riders along with Masters and Thorssell. If this does happen and it's very likely to go somewhere along those lines, Sam Masters and heat leaders wouldn't be possibly be allowed to double up as they would be a number one in both leagues, so riders doubling up would more be the likes of Max Clegg, Joe Jacobs, Stefan Nielsen and could see the number seven rider being a National League draft. So the Wolves team could be something along the lines of Jacob Thorssell, Chris Harris, Tobiasz Musielak, Gino Manzares, Ashley Morris, Max Clegg and Matt Williamson. Maybe not looking that strong, but they would all be along the same strengths and at least it gives more scope for British riders And the end of the EL if that's the strength for the future. Dreadful if that ever happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 If you are going to do that, then run an El with 8 teams and one round home and away. And allow teams to also run a pl team if they want more fixtures . Having only pl standard teams won't help develop riders like lambert, and will likely see a terminal decline in crowds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 So the Wolves team could be something along the lines of Jacob Thorssell, Chris Harris, Tobiasz Musielak, Gino Manzares, Ashley Morris, Max Clegg and Matt Williamson. Maybe not looking that strong, but they would all be along the same strengths and at least it gives more scope for British riders I see your point but I would be suprised if Wolves started with this team regardless. I would say Harris comes in to replace Woffinden. Perhaps a similar line up to last year with Lindgren Howarth Harris Musielak Thorsell Clegg Another Cradley rider? Or alternatively you could use Masters or Kylmakorpi for a heat leader. Wolves have a lot of options to have a solid outfit unlike Kings Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would like to see Masters in the team next season can only get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would like to see Masters in the team next season can only get better. Can only agree. Prefer Masters to Harris. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWolves Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 To me Thorsell and Masters are the riders that the Wolves team should be built around for the next few years. Both capable of becoming top heat leaders and possibly Grand Prix standard. Would certainly prefer to see those two in the team to the unreliable bomber, but be good to have them all if the averages fit I thought Musielak looked good at the Olympique and be happy to have him in as a second string Lindgren Musielak Masters Harris Thorsell Clegg Morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Still improvement in Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Darcy's attitude was getting better each season, Tai's just gets worse! Come on now you don't seriously believe that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Harris is better. I didn't say who was better just who I would prefer. For what it's worth Masters is 7.18 and Harris is 6.58. So who is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Would think riders like Sam Masters, Craig Cook, Daniel King etc would have to decide which league they want to ride in as they could be the number one rider in either league if a number of top riders are prevented or choose not to race here next season. There is a few rumours going around that NO GP riders will be in Britain next season plus riders like Andreas Jonsson or Krzysztof Kasprzak so riders like Kasters and Cook surely wouldn't be in the Premier and Elite League and doubling up should be for the riders like Jacobs, Bates, Clegg, Sarjeant etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Would think riders like Sam Masters, Craig Cook, Daniel King etc would have to decide which league they want to ride in as they could be the number one rider in either league if a number of top riders are prevented or choose not to race here next season. There is a few rumours going around that NO GP riders will be in Britain next season plus riders like Andreas Jonsson or Krzysztof Kasprzak so riders like Kasters and Cook surely wouldn't be in the Premier and Elite League and doubling up should be for the riders like Jacobs, Bates, Clegg, Sarjeant etc. Hope that rumour proves unfounded then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 I didn't say who was better just who I would prefer. For what it's worth Masters is 7.18 and Harris is 6.58. So who is better? Bomber has to be more attractive to clubs on that average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 It could be Masters and Harris leading the Wolves team next season if Thorssell gets a Polish team and rides in Sweden on a Tuesday and Thursday too and Lindgren being one of the riders named on the list that will be prevented from riding here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 Bomber has to be more attractive to clubs on that average. Every club would want to sign him I'd imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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