woodenspoon Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Unfortunately for Ritchie he is handicapped by having a 8.49 average due to the mess made of the averages with protected heats, and the change in that the riders Premier league average from 2016 would be used in team building in 2017. It has always been the case that rule changes brought in by the BSPA have resulted in riders having to move clubs, with the aim in mind to equalise team strengths. The new promotion must be allowed to build the strongest team, in their opinion, under the new regulations. The one thing that appears not to have been done is to inform Ritchie if he is not required this year, by Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 BEEN saying that for decades.There is no continuity of teams now which is bad for fans too. One minute Joe Bloggs is your favourite rider, the next he is off somewhere else through no faults of his own. We have lots of continuity at Lynn And if it wasn't for the bloody Poles we would've had even more continuity for the coming season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Unfortunately for Ritchie he is handicapped by having a 8.49 average due to the mess made of the averages with protected heats, and the change in that the riders Premier league average from 2016 would be used in team building in 2017. It has always been the case that rule changes brought in by the BSPA have resulted in riders having to move clubs, with the aim in mind to equalise team strengths. The new promotion must be allowed to build the strongest team, in their opinion, under the new regulations. The one thing that appears not to have been done is to inform Ritchie if he is not required this year, by Belle Vue. But they have known it would be that figure for months now its hardly a shock. Disgusting if they dont name him after he said he was asked to stay loyal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 in my opinion the statement today on the bspa website is long overdue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) But they have known it would be that figure for months now its hardly a shock. Disgusting if they dont name him after he said he was asked to stay loyal I would very much like to see Richie in the team because of his loyalty over the winter but I suspect that those who asked him to stay loyal may have been one of the unsuccessful bidders. You can't blame the new promoters if they weren't the people making the promises. The article in the Speedway Star today said that it appears that Richie was one of those included in the team building plans so perhaps there is still hope that he will be. Edited February 9, 2017 by Aces51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 So a top 3 of Cook, Fricke and Sedgman then??! ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Any rider who returns to a club should get a 5% average reduction, and a further 5% for ever one of their first 10 seasons. Always been a supporter of a points limit myself but that is an excellent idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 So a top 3 of Cook, Fricke and Sedgman then??! ;-) Sedgman won't be heat leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Unfortunately for Ritchie he is handicapped by having a 8.49 average due to the mess made of the averages with protected heats, and the change in that the riders Premier league average from 2016 would be used in team building in 2017. They would be using his PL average not his EL as his EL is irrelevant. He had a great PL season so that is as fair an average as there is to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 They would be using his PL average not his EL as his EL is irrelevant. He had a great PL season so that is as fair an average as there is to use. Agree with thr first part.On the 2nd part, the fairest thing to do would have been to use SCB weighted El averages and a suitable conversion for riders who only rode pl. Richie is horrible value on that average but atvthe same time I'd be happy enough to see him back in aces colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 So a top 3 of Cook, Fricke and Sedgman then??! ;-)on a par with most sides top 3 though Wolves and Lynns look stronger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 on a par with most sides top 3 though Wolves and Lynns look strongerAnd poolesS worrall will surely be the 3rd hl though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Agree with thr first part. On the 2nd part, the fairest thing to do would have been to use SCB weighted El averages and a suitable conversion for riders who only rode pl. Richie is horrible value on that average but atvthe same time I'd be happy enough to see him back in aces colours. Haven't read SCB's piece on it but I'm sure there is a better and more accurate way of combining both. The BSPA have at least used the next fairest and transparent way which I applaud. As with every year there will be riders on averages that make them unattractive averages. Sadly Richie is one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Looks like the new averages have gone against Belle Vue. I was looking at a possible Aces team and when topped up the combined averages for Cook, Fricke and the Worrall brothers it was difficult trying to fit in 3 decent riders on the points left over. Looks like Richie has been the unfortunate one and been left out in the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Always been a supporter of a points limit myself but that is an excellent idea. ive said for a few years riders that resign 4 or 5 from the previous year get a reduction on combined average of resigning riders to encourage loyalty both ways not sure if id give each individual rider a reduction but wer4e on the same lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 It's always the case that when The Aces top the league a big drop in the team building average follows the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Sedgman won't be heat leader If its Cook, Fricke and Steve Worral they will be battling with Leicester for the wooden spoon. Can't see Cook getting any better. Fricke yes loads of improvement. Worrall, reckon he is at his peak as well. The problem of trying to put together a team late in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 If its Cook, Fricke and Steve Worral they will be battling with Leicester for the wooden spoon. Can't see Cook getting any better. Fricke yes loads of improvement. Worrall, reckon he is at his peak as well. The problem of trying to put together a team late in the day. Expect the unexpected A name I'd like to throw in the hat for a team place is timo lahti. I think he would be a brilliant signing. He really has kicked on abroad in Poland and Sweden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 I think Craig cook will get better this season always liked Craig thought he was coming to Poole at one stage but that did not happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted February 10, 2017 Report Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) I think Craig cook will get better this season always liked Craig thought he was coming to Poole at one stage but that did not happen I've never met a more determined rider. He will do anything to get to the top. A little moody yeh but you need that to reach the too. Never accept 2nd. Edited February 10, 2017 by Phil The Ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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