Gunner85 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Good luck to Justin.... maybe he will get a premiership side to take him on . Let us hope Rohan can benefit from his time at Belle Vue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Tungate will have been bought simply for his scoring around the NSS and with one eye on the Play Offs... Nothing wrong in that. Exactly what Wolves did last year by bringing in a better rider on a lower average. If Tungate can kick on in the 2nd half of the season (like he did last season) then if puts the Aces as the team to beat come September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Exactly & done himself out of being a Robin again.How did it? The KL meeting isn't included in the latest set of averages, and his average was already too high to replace any of the Robins outside the top 3. I guess a zero score may have meant come the next set of averages it may have been low enough but that would also depend on Robins scores between now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Tungate is an improvement on Sedgeman. But he very much blows hot, cold, hot, hot, cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Fricke is meant to be the golden kid of the 3 young aussies. Fricke, Kurtz and Holder. Really not proving it this year. Seems he prefers Sweden and Poland to the UK. Needs to master the smaller tracks if he wants GP in the future. He has fallen behind Kurtz in the pecking order this year. 1. Kurtz 2. Fricke 3. Holder(Will probs be the best. actually looks better than Chris). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Why does he need to master the smaller tracks? I think after starting his British career at arguably the trickiest track in the UK he is fine on small ones anyway. He has struggled a bit at number one but moves away from there now so should flourish again, whereas Kurtz may do the opposite. I think riding against and beating genuine top class riders in the other two leagues will prepare Fricke for the GP's just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Yep Tungate is a gamble.But Belle vue as we were imo were not strong enough at home when it comes to the business end of the season to beat the top teams(more so Wolves) on aggregate if the gamble pays off and Tungate rides to his Belle vue form then we could be if not then we are back to rougthly where we were.We might not be quite as good away but if Tungate does well at home and we win all our future home meetings and this team is still good enough to pick up at least a good few 1 points away we should have already done enough away to reach the play offs.For me a gamble worth taking time will tell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Fricke is meant to be the golden kid of the 3 young aussies. Fricke, Kurtz and Holder. Really not proving it this year. Seems he prefers Sweden and Poland to the UK. Needs to master the smaller tracks if he wants GP in the future. He has fallen behind Kurtz in the pecking order this year. 1. Kurtz 2. Fricke 3. Holder(Will probs be the best. actually looks better than Chris). What a surprise , you think the two Poole riders are better than Fricke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted June 25, 2017 Report Share Posted June 25, 2017 Fricke is meant to be the golden kid of the 3 young aussies. Fricke, Kurtz and Holder. Really not proving it this year. Seems he prefers Sweden and Poland to the UK. Needs to master the smaller tracks if he wants GP in the future. He has fallen behind Kurtz in the pecking order this year. 1. Kurtz 2. Fricke 3. Holder(Will probs be the best. actually looks better than Chris). For what it's worth - I think Fricke has more potential and talent than both Kurtz and Holder. Only time will tell of course. I could be wrong - but I don't think so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 What a surprise , you think the two Poole riders are better than Fricke I am a fan of Fricke but have watch him all season in Polish matches and looking at his scores in a weak Gb League it's pretty obvious where his priorities lye and it's not GB .He is taking pocket money from Belle Vue IMO his efforts in Poland show this. For what it's worth - I think Fricke has more potential and talent than both Kurtz and Holder. Only time will tell of course. I could be wrong - but I don't think so. I Agree regarding Fricke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 For what it's worth - I think Fricke has more potential and talent than both Kurtz and Holder. Only time will tell of course. I could be wrong - but I don't think so. Kurtz has got that ruthless, bit more agreesive streak. But Fricke I think is the rider with the more talent but I wonder if he'll be another Leigh Adams. He rides a lot like Leigh Adams and I wonder if he lacks the aggression and that last little bit you need to be the best like Leigh Adams did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 Kurtz has got that ruthless, bit more agreesive streak. But Fricke I think is the rider with the more talent but I wonder if he'll be another Leigh Adams. He rides a lot like Leigh Adams and I wonder if he lacks the aggression and that last little bit you need to be the best like Leigh Adams did?Kind of agree but if you watch Rybnik v Gorzow last week he certainly was getting stuck in,he should be virtually unbeatable at NSS by Polish form on big tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Maybe with regards to Fricke's priority It may just be that his equipment abroad has to be up there with the best of the best to be competitive and keep his place. In the UK, he may be just bolting together some crap found in the back of the shed to remain competitive. Abroad, you have to be a good gater and fast. With most UK tracks you just need to be a good gater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Kurtz has got that ruthless, bit more agreesive streak. But Fricke I think is the rider with the more talent but I wonder if he'll be another Leigh Adams. He rides a lot like Leigh Adams and I wonder if he lacks the aggression and that last little bit you need to be the best like Leigh Adams did?One thing Leigh never did and that was let his UK team down if indeed that is what Fricke is doing..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Not sure why people are on Frickes case here. He is averaging more in the uk than on Poland, and comfortably more than in Sweden. Even adjusting for the varying degrees of strength of the leagues, his British performances match those on Sweden and would be within half a point of those in Poland. People are forgetting his uk average last year was inflated by riding at 2nd string for a large chunk of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 But Fricke I think is the rider with the more talent but I wonder if he'll be another Leigh Adams. You say that as if it is a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) Not sure why people are on Frickes case here. He is averaging more in the uk than on Poland, and comfortably more than in Sweden. Even adjusting for the varying degrees of strength of the leagues, his British performances match those on Sweden and would be within half a point of those in Poland. People are forgetting his uk average last year was inflated by riding at 2nd string for a large chunk of the season. Agreed. Frickes doing a great job. Like Steve Worrall is headline figure doesn't look outstanding but look at his away average and he's having a smashing season. The BV riders figures really donsuggest that they just have very little home track advantage which doesn't help their riders get big scores.You say that as if it is a bad thing.God no. I enjoyed watching Leigh, more Leigh Adams' is no bad thing at all! I just wouldn't list him in "greatest" riders. Edited June 30, 2017 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Agreed. Frickes doing a great job. Like Steve Worrall is headline figure doesn't look outstanding but look at his away average and he's having a smashing season. The BV riders figures really donsuggest that they just have very little home track advantage which doesn't help their riders get big scores. God no. I enjoyed watching Leigh, more Leigh Adams' is no bad thing at all! I just would list him in "greatest" riders. I asume you mean "wouldn't". In World terms I would agree, but in club terms it's a whole different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 No problems with Fricke. He is progressing well for his age and those doubting his aggression need to see his occasional dive bomb moves into the third bend at the NSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I asume you mean "wouldn't". In World terms I would agree, but in club terms it's a whole different matter.I did. And again I agree. What Leigh did for Swindon, and how much of a machine he was for them even in his last season was immense. He and Crump were something else at league level. The fact that with Crump and Adams we always used to say at Coventry getting a 3-3 out of heats with them guys was a good result says it all. I remember getting a 4-2 over him at Blunsdon in heat 15 of the 2007 play-off final and seeing at as a huge win because you worried if he hated with his team mate it was a 5-1 you were not stopping. I'll always have that 1st and 2nd bend by Nicholls to let Harris get away for the 4-2 down as one the best 1st/2nd bends I've ever seen, just because it was against Adams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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