woodenspoon Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Is it not possible to move this topic forward, to discussions re the New Promotion & the season ahead, instead of keep going over the same old ground re the last promotion. If members wish to discuss Belle Vue and the old promotion, cannot it be done under a new header. Lets move on and talk about the possible exciting future ahead, for Belle Vue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I heard that one club recently lost nearly 2 million which dwarfs the Belle Vue figure. I'm sure there are many who agree with you and feel this club should be kicked out. Can anybody in the know tell us who it is? I am sure there aren't. If they do - then they can hardly call themselves Speedway Supporters. Thank you very much indeed Phil for keeping us all up to date with the proceedings at the Meeting. I would like to wish all at Belle Vue, my very best wishes for the coming Seasons, and hope that over the years Speedway will prosper in the wonderful new Stadium.. Regardless of the 'rights and wrongs' of what has gone on over the last couple of years - I think we should all move forward and support those who are rescuing this great Club, the Riders, the Staff and all involved in Belle Vue Stadium. Importantly - it should never be forgotten that only because of Mr. Gordon and Mr. Morton Belle Vue have the possibility of a great future in a great Stadium. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Is this the same man? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/what-the-sunday-papers-said-9353174.html Yeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaykay2PT Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Yeh £113m is a BIG loss So, having read the 2013 article, here http://www.bellevueaces.co/newsitem.aspx?id=986 Tony Rice and Robin Southwell, were part of the "stunning team of international business big-hitters who will play a major part in the club’s new era." assembled by David Gordon, H'mm the plot thickens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I've just spotted this on the British SpeedwayGB Website: http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.31832 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Strap yourself in for round 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Can we not forget that past now and move on. It's the start of a new era today. 1 year after the last era started haha Not sure the many people reportedly owed lots of money by the "old" Belle Vue owners can quite so easily "forget that past and move on" but I get your point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 GREAT NEWS for all of s/way and B/Vue in particular I for one hope the team is now secure for many years to come and this can only be good for the sport in general.One personal request is that some position be found in the new set up for Chris Morton who IMO deserves nothing less because without Mort there would not be this great stadium that is a jewel in our sports crown. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Had my doubts, but very pleased to be proved wrong. Belle Vue have to make the most of a second chance they are extremely fortune to have been given. Looking forward to visiting on Good Friday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Great news for Belle Vue and British Speedway with the Manchester Utd of speedway and most iconic British club continuing their business in the UK's best speedway stadium - bar none! :D 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Great news for Belle Vue and British Speedway with the Manchester Utd of speedway and most iconic British club continuing their business in the UK's best speedway stadium - bar none! :D " The Manchester United of speedway "? Just stop , right there !! Edited February 25, 2017 by WestGorton1884 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 GREAT NEWS for all of s/way and B/Vue in particular I for one hope the team is now secure for many years to come and this can only be good for the sport in general.One personal request is that some position be found in the new set up for Chris Morton who IMO deserves nothing less because without Mort there would not be this great stadium that is a jewel in our sports crown. I hope that Chris Morton is involved somewhere along the line 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 i can understand the relief , even euphoria of fans to finally see real progress instead of rumours and promises but is a Premier Lge strength Peter Craven Memorial (at best) a fair exchange for any fan who has held on to their ticket to help the club , remembering that the original line-up was probably not even bettered by the british g.p. can you offer a link to where it states this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestGorton1884 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Sincerely hope Chris Morton is not lost to Belle Vue Speedway , 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 See you in october 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaykay2PT Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Not sure the many people reportedly owed lots of money by the "old" Belle Vue owners can quite so easily "forget that past and move on" but I get your point! Especially IF the "old" Belle Vue owners are some of the same people as the "new" Belle Vue owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Is that a bomb I see under the BSPA "establishment" ? I sincerely hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Especially IF the "old" Belle Vue owners are some of the same people as the "new" Belle Vue owners You have me puzzled here. My memory isn't so good (honestly) so what am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 AS Shale Searcher explained (post 2188) proceeds from Sky and gate receipts simply went into a big black hole from previously incurred debt, some of which had been carried forward year on year from Kirky Lane. I remember saying to Chris Morton at the play-off final against Wolves, with a big crowd at the NSS, that at least their season would finish with a good pay day. His curt reply: "But we won't see any of it." There were concerns about the track in the days leading up to the opening but you ignore the fact that it passed an SCB inspection the day before. The fact remains that had ISG properly constructed the base section of turns 3/4 as they had elsewhere and subsequently did there too this whole sorry chapter in British speedway would never have taken place. I Would expect with what was at the stake and the pressure being put on it's no shock that it passed a so called track inspection . of course when you see the report by the clerk of the course you then wonder how it ever did .the 3rd and 4th turns were never fit for racing day time or night time . If Gordon and Morton had done there due diligence and made sure the track was fit to host a meeting then most of the sorry chapter would not have happened , of course with level the level of debt and crazy business plan they would have come unstuck before long anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Why wouldn't I think Chapman went behind Belle Vue's back? “WHY did BSPA and MCC hold discussions behind BV backs whilst BV was still operating, and why didn’t the BSPA fully consider the Gordon Pairman option for BV which was put forward and a cheque issued to the BSPA to cover the in-house debts prior to the AGM in November? I’m both astonished and angered at the BSPA apparent complicity and why did the SCB rush to annul the BV promoters’ licences without being fully considered and voted on by a full committee… effectively destroying the BVSL business and any other options that might have been available” This is from the document the speedway star article was based on. I refer you to my previous post #2212 replying to OveFundinFan. If you had of read it, I am saying, it is not unusual to check what is actually going on when there is a problem before meeting or deciding what your next course of actions are going to be about the promotion. According to you, they should have either a, Told them they were going to chat to the MCC because of their (BSPA) concerns, or b, not talked to the MCC and believed everything that G and M were telling them. The BSPA chose to do what common sense that they and others would do in the circumstances. Find out more before discussions. You can stop digging in now, you have been saved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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