Garry1603 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) Couldn't see another thread for this - I hope there's not a reason for that! I think that we'll see a lot of changes to the team for next year, whatever the format that comes out of the AGM. Cost savings might be a factor but I think that one or two riders might be moved on anyway. For me, I think that Zagar and Nicholls might be the ones to move on. Nicholls has been a great pro for the Aces but hasn't really got to grips with the new track and Zagar is too inconsistent for my liking. That leaves:- Cook - time to be a real number one With growth to come from:- Worrall R Worrall S Fricke Jacobs Two heat leaders to be signed - but who? Maybe a Pole or two given the shape and size of the track, and the big Polish population in East Manchester might be attracted to come to watch. Edited October 4, 2016 by Garry1603 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Personally, I prefer to wait until all our matches are finished before commenting on who should go or stay next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 People tend to wait til the teams season is officially over, out of respect to riders currently trying to win you the league! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 People tend to wait til the teams season is officially over, out of respect to riders currently trying to win you the league! Correct, that why Wolves haven't started a thread yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 How about the manager going. Didn't manage Australia too well in the WTC in July, and judging from the comments on here he didn't manage BV too well Monday at Wolves. I like Zagar when he is on song, but it's too patchy for what he costs, so maybe him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 How about the manager going. Didn't manage Australia too well in the WTC in July, and judging from the comments on here he didn't manage BV too well Monday at Wolves. I like Zagar when he is on song, but it's too patchy for what he costs, so maybe him out. Is Zager like Woffy and just having a spare bike in GB ,his last 2 GPs have been good and looks fast.He should be flying round NSS if GP form is anything to go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) How about the manager going. Didn't manage Australia too well in the WTC in July, and judging from the comments on here he didn't manage BV too well Monday at Wolves. I like Zagar when he is on song, but it's too patchy for what he costs, so maybe him out. Mark Lemon has been a brilliant appointment. I don't see much wrong with his decisions at Wolverhampton and he has played a major part in our getting into the last two play off finals. Is Zager like Woffy and just having a spare bike in GB ,his last 2 GPs have been good and looks fast.He should be flying round NSS if GP form is anything to go by. Zagar has had a difficult season which he has put down to mechanical problems but his form at the NSS improved at the same time as it did in the GP's. He has looked much faster. Edited October 4, 2016 by Aces51 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Not willing to put my thoughts on the team on here until some time after tomorrow evening. What I will say though is I rate Lemmo highly and would love him to stay with BV for a long time to come. No issue whatsoever with his decisions last night. I'd have made exactly the same decisions with regards the Tac and heat 15. Easy to blame with hindsight but realistically, whatever move he made he was potentially going to look silly... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 How about the manager going. Didn't manage Australia too well in the WTC in July, and judging from the comments on here he didn't manage BV too well Monday at Wolves. I like Zagar when he is on song, but it's too patchy for what he costs, so maybe him out. How about you have Havelock and we get Mark Lemon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 How about the manager going. Didn't manage Australia too well in the WTC in July, and judging from the comments on here he didn't manage BV too well Monday at Wolves. I like Zagar when he is on song, but it's too patchy for what he costs, so maybe him out. Absolutely nonsense. Lemon is one of tge best things to happen to belle vue, hes got us play offs 2 years running and top of the league, after years of nothing ness. Id give him a 5 year deal and im sure most Aces fans agree. Cant believe this post i really cant. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Good to hear Lemon is thought a lot of, just that some negative statements about Monday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Mark Lemons decisions at Wolverhampton were tough ones, but they were "a rock or a hard place" type of decision.. From what I have seen and heard, he is a decent manager, makes a lot of sense when interviewed, but he's not an after dinner speaker like Peter Adams!! I think you should hang on to him if you can....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 From what I hear you got bigger problems as to what team your going to put out in 2017 I'd worry about those before thinking of a 1-7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 What did you hear? You can PM me if you lack confidence in your rumours having substance. Cheers mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Think Haza is referring to what's been flying about all over social media in that the Belle Vue management have run out of money, rent arrears and unpaid rider's. I believe these rumours have substance but for me it was all early season stuff when the club had no home meetings to race. I'm quite sure Belle Vue are where they need to be financially now but the early season issues have just stuck like poo to a blanket. What happens over the winter months will telling so a case of wait and see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Up to the 20th of June we had rode 8 away and only 4 at home so it could have been a struggle. However up to the corresponding date last season we rode 9 away and 4 at home but somehow in a stadium with higher rent and no sundry income we coped better? The team was pretty much the same too. People might say that we had the Craven to refund but we had pages and pages on here saying it hadn't been refunded. In addition to all this the crowd numbers are double those of last year. If we could manage last year we can certainly manage this year. Sorry to introduce logic and facts into a rumour fuelled topic. I'm almost expecting a warning from the mods as it seems these two things are frowned upon on here. P.S. Still waiting to here anything of substance from these "in the know" types. Edited October 5, 2016 by ouch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Got told a couple of weeks ago by a riders sponsor that he was owed a lot of money. I was surprised by that, given the information above. Edited October 5, 2016 by Halifaxtiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 What did you hear? You can PM me if you lack confidence in your rumours having substance. Cheers mate. Very familiar style of post this... where have I seen it before. Up to the 20th of June we had rode 8 away and only 4 at home so it could have been a struggle. However up to the corresponding date last season we rode 9 away and 4 at home but somehow in a stadium with higher rent and no sundry income we coped better? The team was pretty much the same too. People might say that we had the Craven to refund but we had pages and pages on here saying it hadn't been refunded. In addition to all this the crowd numbers are double those of last year. If we could manage last year we can certainly manage this year. Sorry to introduce logic and facts into a rumour fuelled topic. I'm almost expecting a warning from the mods as it seems these two things are frowned upon on here. P.S. Still waiting to here anything of substance from these "in the know" types. Hi Fred Got told a couple of weeks ago by a riders sponsor that he was owed a lot of money. I was surprised by that, given the information above. Also been told the same thing from a couple of different sources. A big crowd tonight will help the situation IF there is any problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Very familiar style of post this... where have I seen it before. Hi Fred Also been told the same thing from a couple of different sources. A big crowd tonight will help the situation IF there is any problem. a big crowd will help for sure but I'd have thought a big crowd is needed each and every meeting not just tonight . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Very familiar style of post this... where have I seen it before. Hi Fred Also been told the same thing from a couple of different sources. A big crowd tonight will help the situation IF there is any problem. It's not Fred. But I think they are related. Brothers I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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