Daniel Smith Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 anybody who thinks Eliis would of done better than Lambert is new to speedway! Hang on, it's not about who's better. It's about Cook and Lambert only scored 1 point from 6 rides between them. It wouldn't of hurt for Ellis to of taken both their rides in the nominated heats as he couldn't of done worse than 0. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Danny Smith, on 10 Jul 2017 - 11:38 AM, said: Hang on, it's not about who's better. It's about Cook and Lambert only scored 1 point from 6 rides between them. It wouldn't of hurt for Ellis to of taken both their rides in the nominated heats as he couldn't of done worse than 0. we were in with a chance of winning bronze, bringing Ellis in would of been a gamble that simply didn't add up, the risk factor was greater than the reward. For all Rossitors faults I actually think he was correct to use Cook and Lambert in the nominated races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Yorker Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I said something the same more then a few posts ago - his command of written english is too good for him to be a pole - thick plank maybe, but not a pole. Just a wind up merchant and he gets too much attention - like now Woke up in the middle of the night and thought I knew who he is.....Donald Trump. Then in the morning read a couple of his posts and realized that it couldn't be because he has a much better command of the English language than Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Denmark chose the wrong rider in Iversen in the run off with Latvia the chose the wrong rider in picking Kenneth "Bottle it" Bjerre in their team.. when the going gets tough.. Kenneth vanishes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 So why was Lambert looking like " a different rider" in his last heat? Did it take that long to work out the set up? Or was his mojo found in the bottom of the toolbox? At least Cook apologised promptly for his "performance". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 we were in with a chance of winning bronze, bringing Ellis in would of been a gamble that simply didn't add up, the risk factor was greater than the reward. For all Rossitors faults I actually think he was correct to use Cook and Lambert in the nominated races. Correct we were in with a chance of bronze, so a braver team manager would have gambled. Nobody had Steve Worrall outscoring Cook and Lambert combined. Is Steve Worrall better than Cook? Of course not but it's about taking chances and opportunities and Ellis was our chance and opportunity against 2 riders with 1 point from 6 rides 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Dear me, what did we do before sports psychologists.. Better. in almost every case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Woofy in at 1 and Lambert in at reserve - we would have been pushing the Swedes for Silver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 While I agree Lambert's gating is still poor and he probably hadn't progresses as quickly as most of us thought he has only been nineteen for the months, he is in only his fourth season of senior racing and had two more years in the U21s after this one do its a bit silly to write him off as average just yet. He is already well above average but if he wants to emulate Doyle or Woffinden and get into the GP and win some, he needs to get some help with aspects of his racing - from the best available source. Perhaps he is already? Or is he too busy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) As does this...... Poland Sweden Russia Great Britain Australia Latvia USA Denmark Czech Republic France Germany Italy But Denmark had tougher opposition in their semi then USA had in theirs and should be ranked higher then USA. Edited July 10, 2017 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 But Denmark had tougher opposition in their semi then USA had in theirs and should be ranked higher then USA. Not to mention the probablity that had "Event 1" been held in Prague, Melbourne or Costa Mesa, instead of perennially being held in the BSPA Chairman's own back yard, then Team GB may not have progressed any further either. Then we would have been down in the lower reaches of that "league". While I agree Lambert's gating is still poor and he probably hadn't progresses as quickly as most of us thought he has only been nineteen for the months, he is in only his fourth season of senior racing and had two more years in the U21s after this one do its a bit silly to write him off as average just yet. The problem with an event like the SWC is that your 19 year old gets compared with the 19 year olds from other countries. One 19 year old stood out in Poland, and it wasn't Lambert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 anybody who thinks Eliis would of done better than Lambert is new to speedway! Ellis may well have done better than the Lambert we saw in his first rides. And I have been watching speedway and marking up the programme since 1956 ( and some years before that but not watching seriously, just running around ). I am a huge fan of Lambert - but cannot fathom why he was so poor initially. Yes, he is still young but I was very disappointed - let's hope that it was just a bad day at the office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 All good opinions, that's what this forum is all about but all the opinions in the world still won't alter the fact that Great Britain are fourth in the world. Chuffed that two Aces helped get them there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Woofy in at 1 and Lambert in at reserve - we would have been pushing the Swedes for Silver... But he chose to turn his back on Team GB, so he wasn't and we didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedibee Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 anybody who thinks Eliis would of done better than Lambert is new to speedway! I don't think he would HAVE Hang on, it's not about who's better. It's about Cook and Lambert only scored 1 point from 6 rides between them. It wouldn't of hurt for Ellis to of taken both their rides in the nominated heats as he couldn't of done worse than 0. he could HAVE taken 1 of their rides and Wouldn't HAVE done any worse Woofy in at 1 and Lambert in at reserve - we would have been pushing the Swedes for Silver... Correct , and if we had given a couple of Poles British passports we could have won the whole thing . but the Poles wouldn't have wanted to ride for GB , just like the Australian didn't .so it's really immaterial what may have happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) This bloke/woman tr3mm0r keeps coming across as Polish.Does anyone know whether he/she actually is.The reason i ask this is all the posts seem to be in perfect English,knows where to put the commas,question marks etc.Now i know a lot of Polish people(work)and i haven't come across one who can do the language in perfect English let alone write it down.And some of those i have been working with 8+years. A wonderful thing,so they say. What a quite outrageous post. My wife is Russian, I'm a teacher with a 1st class Honours Degree and I'll tell you quite plainly that her written English is better than mine. You (and others on here) who have this ridiculous assumption that a Pole couldn't possibly be able to write in English as well or better than you is bordering on racist. Get a bloody life! Edited July 10, 2017 by stewmac 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 What a quite outrageous post. My wife is Russian, I'm a teacher with a 1st class Honours Degree and I'll tell you quite plainly that her written English is better than mine. Your (and others on here) who have this ridiculous assumption that a Pole couldn't possibly be able to write in English as well or better than you is bordering on racist. Get a bloody life! sit down, have cup of tea, dunk a biscuit, relax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 sit down, have cup of tea, dunk a biscuit, relax Actually I was sitting with a cup of tea and a biscuit when I wrote it :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 haha come on guys, I live in the UK for 7 years now and even though I don't consider myself as fluent in English as natives are and my accent definitely says NON-NATIVE SPEAKER, my grammar and spelling are a lot better than some native speakers I work with and also better than some posters here, give me 10 minutes and I'll find plenty of 'should ofs' etc. looks like most of you base your assumptions on Poles you came across with when asking for a pint or hiring a constructor, some of us actually have office jobs in England (I do, maybe tremmor does too) and both our oral and written English is pretty damn good. anybody who thinks Eliis would of done better than Lambert is new to speedway! 3 minutes later and i didn't even have to look for it :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Actually I was sitting with a cup of tea and a biscuit when I wrote it :-) great, but its the dunking the biscuit bit that helps to relax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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