PHILIPRISING Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Fair play to the lads for getting fourth, but you can see the gulf that exists when we leave the comfort zone of GB... The BSPA need to get these lads on the continent, racing far more times than they currently have opportunities to do so... When Sweden regularly got 10000 fans for their two Elite League play offs, it wasn't because Eskiltuna or Vagarna were doing well, it was because Tony Rickardsson had moved the Sport into the mainstream and his success at World level captured the countries imagination and domestically Speedway benefited.. Similar to Denmark. The all conquering Danish Team moved the sport forwards massively in the eyes of the Danish public and domestic Danish Speedway reaped the benefits on the back of it... Cricket and Rugby realised a succesful national team boosts their club competitions massively and set about using central contracts to put the National Teams first.. Not for one minute do I believe Speedway could afford to do anything similar, but it could start to let their best riders race against truly World Class riders more through Teat Matches for instance.... Racing the 'odd heat' against a GP rider over here (who is probably earning his least amount of cash for what he does) with two other 'lower league riders' in the same race who wont be challenging you at the first turn, is hardly the same as five races against 15 World Class riders representing their country with passion and commitment... Our lads needs more exposure against the very top riders to bridge that gap... Do that and maybe a successful 'Team GB' will make the mainstream media sit up and take notice (like it did in the Seventies and early Eighties when we were successful) and the spin off for the domestic leagues will be better support from an interested public? AGREE with all of that and while it won't make them better riders ditching the Team GB tag would help. Believe me, that cuts no ice with the media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 As the World Cup as become a pointless exercise maybe the trophy should be awarded to Poland permanently and the competition discontinued as was the Worlds Best Pairs competion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Typical Woffinden tweet. At least plenty on twitter are telling him he is out of order. The guy is a dick and is doing all he can to antagonise British fans. It like he wants to be hated. Sad thing is if he was not such a knob his on track success could very easily make him one of the greats and most well liked British riders ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) The guy got drilled by a load of morons a week ago and is having a bit of an F U moment which although I'm sure he knows it would rile a few people, he makes a well deserved point. I don't know Tai that well but having spoken to him a few times about these sort of situations I can tell you that 'no comment' did not mean 'I told you so' Rosco and a couple of the boys (Lambert aside) all had their subtle digs at him during this week when they had winning a weak event 1 Swagger about then. But people are selective on who's out of order aren't they Edited July 8, 2017 by RPNYC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 The guy is a dick and is doing all he can to antagonise British fans. It like he wants to be hated. Sad thing is if he was not such a knob his on track success could very easily make him one of the greats and most well liked British riders ever. And to think a couple of seasons ago I was cheering him on in the GP series. He will get a big cheer in Cardiff but I think there will be quite a few boos in the crowd as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 And to think a couple of seasons ago I was cheering him on in the GP series. He will get a big cheer in Cardiff but I think there will be quite a few boos in the crowd as well. It's never been my policy to boo a rider, I simply ignore them, even turn my back on them (never saw Hancock and Hamill do victory laps ). By booing them you are simply giving them attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 The guy got drilled by a load of morons a week ago and is having a bit of an F U moment which although I'm sure he knows it would rile a few people, he makes a well deserved point. I don't know Tai that well but having spoken to him a few times about these sort of situations I can tell you that 'no comment' did not mean 'I told you so' Rosco and a couple of the boys (Lambert aside) all had their suble digs at him during this week when they had winning anweek event 1 Swagger about then. But people are selective on who's out of order aren't they Don't see it that way at all. You say "a load of morons" but these are speedway fans fed up with his attitude towards his own country, whether it be not riding in our leagues, not riding in ourchampionship or not riding in the swc. So what well deserved point is he making? TeamGB would have done better with him riding? True. But he has turned his back on his country. He deserves any crap thrown at him for disrespecting British speedway and its fans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Anyone else (GB fan) on here not more frustrated that yet again we've turned up on equipment not up to scratch, the can't ride the correct lines, and we came stone bonker last? Richie Worrall scoring 6 is a reason for us all (including me) to have a slight ray of hope. I'm bewildered. I love the effort and all that. But that is never an issue. How are we coming 4th to a Russian team with neither of the Lagutas and Emil scoring way less than most though he would on his home track. It's tragic. Shaking my head in disbelief yet again at a Brit performance Edited July 8, 2017 by RPNYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Ok, I'm done with Tai Woffinden. Making social media all about him again when GB are racing. I will not be supporting him at Cardiff and in the future. I've tried hard to defend him in the past but his attitude during this World Cup has been to much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 It's never been my policy to boo a rider, I simply ignore them, even turn my back on them (never saw Hancock and Hamill do victory laps ). By booing them you are simply giving them attention Only riders I've ever booed is Nicki because its what we do. Love to hate him. But otherwise you're right, silence is much better. Means you don't care and his being an antagonistic dickhead isn't working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 As the World Cup as become a pointless exercise maybe the trophy should be awarded to Poland permanently and the competition discontinued as was the Worlds Best Pairs competion. A bit like England's superiority in the seventies. They were unstoppable on paper - now remind me what happened in 1976, 1978 and 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 The guy got drilled by a load of morons a week ago and is having a bit of an F U moment which although I'm sure he knows it would rile a few people, he makes a well deserved point. I don't know Tai that well but having spoken to him a few times about these sort of situations I can tell you that 'no comment' did not mean 'I told you so' Rosco and a couple of the boys (Lambert aside) all had their subtle digs at him during this week when they had winning a weak event 1 Swagger about then. But people are selective on who's out of order aren't they Ask yourself why the fans are saying the things they are about him. Ask yourself why the fans are criticising him. Ask yourself why the fans are pissed off with him. The fans didn't wake up one day en masse and randomly decide to start on our best (in terms of talent and success) speedway rider for a generation, maybe ever! Theres a reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Don't see it that way at all. You say "a load of morons" but these are speedway fans fed up with his attitude towards his own country, whether it be not riding in our leagues, not riding in ourchampionship or not riding in the swc. So what well deserved point is he making? TeamGB would have done better with him riding? True. But he has turned his back on his country. He deserves any crap thrown at him for disrespecting British speedway and its fans. You don't like him Steve so there is no point in me making the same points I have made time and time again to you. The BSPA have managed to have riders like Rico,Scotty, Havvy, even our beloved Bomber say they've had enough and will turn their back on representing GB. Tai has the clout and ability to not need British speedway. Sad for us fans yes, but if others were good enough they'd do the same. You somehow cannot see that. Same to you SCB. Not being disrespectful just trying to give the other side of the coin. But you'll refuse to see it so I shoulda saved my energy Edited July 8, 2017 by RPNYC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Supportive tweet to Worrall from Woffinden. Clear Tai was watching, if it benefits Stevie going forward in some way then it benefits his clubs & ultimately his country. For the record I'm no Woffinden apologist. Been put off by his seemingly arrogant attitude over last couple of years. On the other side can see merits in his frustration at the BSPA too. Let's not burn the bridge to him, love him or not, what he does works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 You don't like him Steve so there is no point in me making the same points I have made time and time again to you. The BSPA have managed to have riders like Rico,Scotty, Havvy, even our beloved Bomber say they've had enough and will turn their back on representing GB. Tai has the clout and ability to not need British speedway. Sad for us fans yes, but if others were good enough they'd do the same. You somehow cannot see that. Same to you SCB. Not being disrespectful just trying to give the other side of the coin. But you'll refuse to see it so I shoulda saved my energy I have no issue with critisism of the BSPA, I have no issue with refusing to ride because they're not doing things properly. I've said a number of times (including this week) that the BSPA should be doing what Woffy says as he has won World Titles so knows what it needs. But there is no need for him to be a twit towards the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Clemens Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 A bit like England's superiority in the seventies. They were unstoppable on paper - now remind me what happened in 1976, 1978 and 1979. My point is that Poland will dominate permanently because no other nation, in this day and age, has the interest, motivation or financial clout to bring themselves to the level required to win this competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) They guys had people onto him from day 1 about not being a Brit despite being our top scorer since 2008 in every SWC & a double world champion. I just don't blame him for winding up fans who throw the kitchen sink at him. We can all sit here and say we wouldn't do it but none of us will ever be in that position. All I'm saying Steve we as Brit fans, should be more annoyed at a tactically inept manager & Riders who have turned up under prepared YET AGAIN. Remember Cookie & Danny King didn't even get a heat win till their 4th rides last year - in Manchester!!! -because they 'weren't dialled in' been hearing this year after year there is no excuse & to me much more frustrating than Tai sending a tweet quite clearly meant to wind people who knock him up. Again not knocking their effort tonight but this is the WORLD CUP. We've had a 17 year old Russian kid look better than our captain & "no.1" that is an embarrassment Edited July 8, 2017 by RPNYC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 Agree totally, has no loyalty to Britain at all. He should be booed by the fans at Cardiff not treated like a hero which no doubt 99% of the crowd will do for some reason! it's because he is a double world British champ. You can't fault him for that. Brits in general have very little to cheer about so plenty of reasons to thank him for. His stance on not riding here and GB are down to the authorities. When you have a double world champion you listen. I don't blame him even tho I wish he was riding here. And to think a couple of seasons ago I was cheering him on in the GP series. He will get a big cheer in Cardiff but I think there will be quite a few boos in the crowd as well. He will get the 2nd biggest cheer next to Cook, without question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 So Team GB are 4th in the World. Better than Australia. Better than Denmark - both of whom could not manage to qualify for the final. Well done Team GB. As for the strange tattooed lad Mr T. Woffinden I have no problem with his decision not to race for his adopted country - but if he continues to publicly "diss" (I think that's the modern word) the GB team and the GB fans - he should have his GB licence revoked. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted July 8, 2017 Report Share Posted July 8, 2017 He didn't diss them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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