waytogo28 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Super meeting. Lovely wide track, well prepared with 4 teams fairly evenly matched. Lost count of the quality races. Well done to the Latvians. Hope they do themselves justice in Poland. Truly "proper speedway" proving that us dinosaurs don't have false memories of when matches were often like this ( not every one I know ). 10 X better than the entertainment from KL but I DO celebrate the GB team's success. The track allowed the riders to demonstrate how much they did want it - and they really did want to win. A bloody nose for Denmark who did not so much as fail but were beaten by the better teams on the night. To get a medal in Poland Team GB will have to also show that they can go for it as much, when not on home shale. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) I thoroughly enjoyed the meeting - speedway out of the top drawer as Kelvin would say.. All credit to the Latvians, they made the most of their chances but I still feel the 'Joker' has no place in a serious competition. Looking forward to Friday - should be quite a battle (USA excluded). Edited July 5, 2017 by TonyE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I thoroughly enjoyed the meeting - speedway out of the top drawer as Kevin would say.. All credit to the Latvians, they made the most of their chances but I still fee the 'Joker' has no place in a serious competition. Looking forward to Friday - should be quite a battle (USA excluded). I would describe it as a " TV competition " where artificial levelling is the order of the day to create an exciting event !! Is Speedway any different to lets say Cricket`s fielding restrictions in one day comp`s or Touring cars ballast in cars. I`m sure there are many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Kings Lynn has been poor for several seasons now but there is no doubt that if you swapped the two semis round the racing would have been better Saturday and worse last night. Unfortunately the line ups magnified the deficiencies of the AFA as a race track but it did serve up a belter of a meeting last night. In terms of shape and surface Vastervik looks light years ahead of Lynn. Edited July 5, 2017 by Gordon Bennett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Vastervik SWC round 2 Tuesday 4th July all heats short version - Polish full version - polish full version - English minus heat 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Well Done to Latvia getting through at the expense of the Danes who in Nielsen have a good manager but the writing has been on the wall for a while as they are all struggling in the leagues and competitions. Latvia had Lebedeves on fire but they all played their part and Taransenko for Russia did well. Just think what they could have done had Artem Laguta been in the team aswell. These riders like Poudzuks Tarasenko Bogdanovs etc all compete in Poland and have tough meetings to prepare for these sorts of meetings which will benefit Steve and Richie Worrall and while Cook really needed to find a team in the top level he has signed for Bydgozsz and already pulled out of meetings which won't go down well. As I will be at the final but missing the race off I hope Russia get through so get to see Emil and Grigory in action again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Kings Lynn has been poor for several seasons now but there is no doubt that if you swapped the two semis round the racing would have been better Saturday and worse last night. Unfortunately the line ups magnified the deficiencies of the AFA as a race track but it did serve up a belter of a meeting last night. In terms of shape and surface Vastervik looks light years ahead of Lynn. My point exactly. You need 4 evenly matched teams to produce what we saw last night. The Kings Lynn semi had 2 teams a fair bit better than the other 2. Switch the tracks and the racing still wouldnt have been that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Am I right in saying that only the Latvian team had to qualify this year? Trying to find information on the Czechs qualifier but can't anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Am I right in saying that only the Latvian team had to qualify this year? Trying to find information on the Czechs qualifier but can't anywhere. You won`t because there wasn`t one. 1 Meeting in Riga on June 25th - Latvia, France, Germany and Italy from the 2017 world cup regs 78.8.5 FIM Speedway World Cup Qualifying System The SWC Final Tournament Format may change for the following year and if so, will be reflected in the Qualification System where necessary. The top 7 Teams/FMNs (1-7) of the overall SWC Final Tournament Classification shall be directly seeded into the following year’s SWC Final Tournament. If the host nation of the following years Race Off and Final is ranked in the top 7, this nation will be replaced by the team that finished 8th in the overall SWC Final Tournament Classification. 1 additional team will qualify for the SWC Final Tournament through an appropriate preliminary competition agreed by the SWC Commission in accordance with entries received. Seeded FMNs/Teams that do not wish to participate in the SWC Final Tournament must notify the FIM/CCP Administration in writing, no later than four months before the start of the preliminary qualifying rounds of the SWC. When all nine Teams for the SWC Final Tournament are known, a ranking list from 1 to 9 shall be produced and distributed by the FIM/CCP Administration to all FMNs concerned Edited July 5, 2017 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 So I can only presume that only the lowest point scores from the 2 1st round games will have to qualify meaning the Czechs and not Denmark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 So I can only presume that only the lowest point scores from the 2 1st round games will have to qualify meaning the Czechs and not Denmark. This is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Really enjoyed that there was some terrific racing with four evenly matched teams Laguta/Tarasenko were great value for the Russians and Lebedev was superb.Yesterday showed me again why we dont need that crappy JOKER rule four evenly matched teams they fought to the death and provided great entertainment.For me Denmark have big problems they are in decline who are coming through for them maybe Jakobsen Hansen? worrying times for them longterm i believe, Edited July 5, 2017 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Really enjoyed that there was some terrific racing with four evenly matched teams Laguta/Tarasenko were great value for the Russians and Lebedev was superb.Yesterday showed me again why we dont need that crappy JOKER rule four evenly matched teams they fought to the death and provided great entertainment.For me Denmark have big problems they are in decline who are coming through for them maybe Jakobsen Hansen? worrying times for them longterm i believe, Even worse for the Swedes- they have even less young talent than the Danes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Even worse for the Swedes- they have even less young talent than the DanesBut is the core of there team better? and most of those riding have a few years left in them yet.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkens Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Denmark manager must die on his sword. Poor. Talking after the event but no Kildermand or Andersen. MJJ and Madsen instead. 2016 dropped Pedersen controversially. That did not work. Made bad calls last 2 years and so he has to go. Embarrassing. What's wrong with picking Madsen? 2.167 in Ekstraliga, 5th best... better than Iversen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) While I hope Saturdays final has great racing and is a tense meeting I would rather see Britain win with no passing at all , a British win with amazing racing would be a bonus but a British win is the thing that will get me cheering and shouting at the tv and it will make me a £1000 better off as I had a bet on them Edited July 5, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 What's wrong with picking Madsen? 2.167 in Ekstraliga, 5th best... better than Iversen. Good stat. Bjerre just as bad and cost Denmark with 0 from joker ride. While I hope Saturdays final has great racing and is a tense meeting I would rather see Britain win with no passing at all , a British win with amazing racing would be a bonus but a British win is the thing that will get me cheering and shouting at the tv and it will make me a £1000 better off as I had a bet on them Poland win easy. If England (Team GB) come 3rd it would be a huge achievement. They will do well to get 25pts. Realistic not unsupportive. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Good stat. Bjerre just as bad and cost Denmark with 0 from joker ride. Poland win easy. If England (Team GB) come 3rd it would be a huge achievement. They will do well to get 25pts. Realistic not unsupportive. while I agree Poland are favourites , they have in pawlicki and janowski two riders who are unpredictable scorers with pawlicki been unpredictable as to if he will finish the race as seen in the last gp where he crashed while leading comfortably and he is the same for leszno , both him and janowski both had poor meetings in the polish championships on Friday , throw in the massive pressure that they will have and well you never know , I expect nothing but it's not as clear cut as people think, we might benifit by Australia going through because Russia or Latvia are both potential winners in Poland , I know Poland have been practicing at leszno this week and if they start convincingly they will take some stoping but if they have their cages rattled early on I think we will see a diiferent poland fro what everyone expects from them Edited July 5, 2017 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 While I hope Saturdays final has great racing and is a tense meeting I would rather see Britain win with no passing at all , a British win with amazing racing would be a bonus but a British win is the thing that will get me cheering and shouting at the tv and it will make me a £1000 better off as I had a bet on them A British win with no passing would be a massive loss to speedway as any new armchair would be fans would only nod and say " yes. first away from the start wins". "why bother to go", which is the problem we currently have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Good stat. Bjerre just as bad and cost Denmark with 0 from joker ride. Poland win easy. If England (Team GB) come 3rd it would be a huge achievement. They will do well to get 25pts. Realistic not unsupportive. England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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