SCB Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Sorry to just take a bit of your statement & hope you dont believe I'm taking out of context BUT your surely would suggest then Woffinden would enhance this cause ? If thats the case whatever must be done to accomodate him must be done ? I think to some extent, we should do as Woffy want/asks, the suggestiuon that one man is not bigger than the team is madness. He's a multi-World Champion, he has won more than the rest of the Team GB set up put together and if he says the riders should wear pink underwear and pray the Flying Spaghetti Monster then you do it as it's obviously worked for him. What about speedway then? Lets say that your team was the hosts. Would you "kill" speedway by preparing a track that was only one way to ride on and your team knew that with other teams wandering in the fog? Thats not for the team and the manager to decide tbf. If you want to take your argument to extremes I guess I could go out and shoot all other speedway riders but that would be silly too. I want us to do everything within the rules and laws to win. Trust me, I'd have much rather watched a decent meeting with passing tonight than tonight gate and go yawn fest. But last years final showed that we're capable of competing on a big track with passing. We score 32 with Cook scoring 5 out of 15, he's come on a lot in 12 months. Lambert is probably better than 3 these days too, certainly in a year or twos time anyway. Meanwhile Sweden and Denmark are aging and going backwards without any kids to replace them, the Aussies are not bad TBF and if Kurtz and Fricke do anything they're a threat in a few years time. Meanwhile the Poles, well we all know they're great but on there day, can they be beaten? Of course they can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 It's the World Cup. Frankly if Worrall can't enjoy the fact he score 12 tonight and he's going to the final but in stead dwells on it if he scores 0 and is taken out of his first ride then he's not mentally right to be a top sportsman. And using Worrall was wrong by me. The extra rider would have been King anyway. Personally, I want us to do whatever it takes to win the SWC. Not worry about upsetting a rider because he gets taken out of rides in a SWC Final. Nothing wrong with wanting the best result possible for GB, merely painting an alternative scenario for debate. I wouldn't have had a problem with King (always enjoy watching him race btw) being involved in the side & Lambert at reserve for the flexibility it might offer, certainly when looking at next Saturday night. My impressions of Steve Worrall, albeit only gained from seeing him & listening to him at my club, he seems to have a grounded attitude & a desire to improve. Purely my opinion, if he got withdrawn after one bad ride, I'd be amazed if he didn't take it on the chin & muck in with the other lads. If we are building for 2018 onwards I would stick with Worrall, who has made major progress over the last 2 years or so. If the end game is the best result next weekend on a big fast track then I understand people wanting King selected. More importantly, what will Rosco do? I think he'll stick to his guns, rightly or wrongly. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston1 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 For editorial reasons I'd like to point out that Team GB were without Tai Woffinden. Not that Pearson cares when he was crying about the Aussies losing and giving excuses "for editorial" reasons. What a twit he is. Was Tai injured the same as Jason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 LOL! A true fan!!!! /sarcasm UK DID the job. No OVERACHIEVING!!! It was UK or AUS from the start! You don't care who wins the final... OK. Understandable But "...if it's not GB, which it won't be." part shows you either aren't a speedway fan or aren't British. Or both. What on earth on you on about?? Proud Brit and a realist. Delighted GB won, even tho everyone had the Aussies favourites to win (even without Doyle). If you can show me one person who thinks GB will win Saturday , go ahead. Do you believe GB will win Saturday? I will have whatever you are drinking if you do. GB has fallen behind other nations and are starting to make some improvements. To suggest I should think we will win on Saturday is beyond crazy. GB have achieved the best thing possible - straight through to the final. That's a great achievement. Will we win????? You can answer that. Nothing wrong with wanting the best result possible for GB, merely painting an alternative scenario for debate. I wouldn't have had a problem with King (always enjoy watching him race btw) being involved in the side & Lambert at reserve for the flexibility it might offer, certainly when looking at next Saturday night. My impressions of Steve Worrall, albeit only gained from seeing him & listening to him at my club, he seems to have a grounded attitude & a desire to improve. Purely my opinion, if he got withdrawn after one bad ride, I'd be amazed if he didn't take it on the chin & muck in with the other lads. If we are building for 2018 onwards I would stick with Worrall, who has made major progress over the last 2 years or so. If the end game is the best result next weekend on a big fast track then I understand people wanting King selected. More importantly, what will Rosco do? I think he'll stick to his guns, rightly or wrongly. We'll see. Steve has been riding in Poland this year, King isn't. Steve more than deserves his place. King has proven several times. .. He isn't good enough abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Two words. Tai who? wont be saying that after next Saturday when the team are mauled in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Two words. Tai who? as I was reading the thread wondered how long it would be before you troll yet again. You moan at people for having a go at KK yet you have a pop at Tai all the time. Of course we didn't need him tonight but I guess we may in the final! Now run along 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Not very entertaining but great win for GB. A medal in the final would surpass expectation. Poland should win it with ease. The ridiculous 'Joker' has got to go - it's a showpiece event, not a game show. I would prefer the last 4 heats to be decided on lowest to highest scorers. Simple and logical in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Harris certainly like Kings Lynn. If t wasn't so faraway from Cornwall I'm sure he would have rode at home there at some point in his career Chris has lived in Coventry for years and it's not that far away from Kings Lynn. Still time for him to ride for the Stars before he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Ask Poles if they believed Szczakiel gonna become a World Champion! IT's speedway. One of the most unpredictable sports on Earth! EVERY SPEEDWAY FAN KNOWS THAT Ditto Woffy! It's less predictable than it was in the days of the one off finals. I expect Poland to win Saturday, but trust me I will be the first to take great delight and shout about it if GB win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Cook might not earn enough money if he was in top divisions abroad.IMO .Plus the fact if you don't perform your out next week.Big Fish in small pond is better option for him. Not better for him if he wants to see how far he can go on the sport. Will only achieve his potential if he ditches Championship speedway and rides in Poland & Sweden regularly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobMcCaffery Posted July 1, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Congratulations to team GB. The team rode to win and no one could ask anymore. They did what they had to do and let's wait and see what happens in the final. For now bask in the glory of a GB win. I suspect he simply doesn't wasn't to ride in Britain unless he absolutely has to. I really enjoyed that GB performance. Australia were without Doyle, we were without Woffinden. For once things went right for us. At least I thought I enjoyed it. Apparently Cook only passed people because of their mistakes, we only won because others lost and other team managers were incompetent, the commentator made a mistake, we're doomed in the final ....... What a joyless bunch speedway supporters, or at least those bleating here have become. Not so much a 'glass half empty' mentality but 'someone drunk it all and then smashed the glass, as they always do and will do'. Yes things went our way but to drop just 7 points in 20 heats is worthy of some little pleasure isn't it or is only blind negativity allowed here now? There's one thing being realistic but what I've read here is just beyond belief! 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 I don't think the Czech's wanted to go to the run off, awful use of the Joker and why didn't Milik get an extra ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Good to see a British Captain with an 'old school' huge winning mentality... Not quite 'win at all costs', which is quite correct given the unforgiving nature of the sport.... But you can clearly see his passion and commitment... Seems to leave his ego at the pit gate too which can never be a bad thing... Shows leadership by deeds not just words.... Has come a long way Cook in a fairly (by Speedway standards) short time. ... Let's hope his rise continues... Edited July 2, 2017 by mikebv 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) I don't think the Czech's wanted to go to the run off, awful use of the Joker and why didn't Milik get an extra ride? Milik didn't get an extra ride because he was pants,apart from ht 20.Didn't like the track early doors when it was grippy. Edited July 2, 2017 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 lets hope the boys do us proud next saturday win or lose who cares we are in the final . cant see australia getting through on friday unless doyley rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Having now watched the recording of the meeting, I thought the occasion was far better than the recorded one on the box. I don't think the crowd was as high as previous years but the atmosphere was pretty good. Team GB have to be congratulated for winning so comfortable. Once Doyle was withdrawn from the match the Aussie team was always beatable. but to win with 3 races to spare was very impressive..... The selection of Cook, Lambert and Bomber were never in doubt. Worrall was my only query, but he proved me & everyone's doubt were unfounded. As a team, they did all that was expected and more.. You can only beat what's on the table, Australia started the meeting off poor and gave away 4 pts in the first 2 races.. and were never to recover Obviously it was nice to see Holder back to something like his best, Yeah he made a couple of mistakes, but he was always there or thereabouts in all his races. Batchelor was consistent and deserved his call-up. But the others were poor. I don't think the inclusion of Doyle for the play-off will be enough to get them through and will probably need FIM help to strengthen. I think the venue was tailor-made for meetings like this. but the location in the east needs to be questioned.. The track was again disappointing and offered the riders very little opportunity to pass. Most races were processional and any overtaking was created more by mistakes than excellent riding. When watching the tele, I heard Scotty say the surface at AFA, Buster uses clay based shale that offers a lot of grip, probably too much, in that all the riders can go equally as fast. I know we contently moan about the track but its good when seasoned riders like Scotty comes out with comments like that.... Yeah, pleased we won, but not the best of meetings. I sometimes think, are our memories playing tricks with our minds ?? When looking back, I believe meetings were far more exciting than they are today. I can't imagine I will look back on this meeting with fond memories like I use do with many others.....and that's a shame...... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Kings Lynn video full -English https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MITMf4EZrVw short all heats Polish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08CxQCPD0gY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Great win from Team GB and really enjoyed seeing Cookie being so dominant. But anyone who thought that was a good meeting is deluded. The racing was on a par with what is served up by Berwick. Utter follow the leader tripe. Was there even one genuinely great race, with multiple passing? No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Sure. Just remember it was on your soil. Aussies will be with Doyley and they know Polish tracks way better . The Aussies were on "home" soil in speedway terms as they come over here as kids and learn their trade before the Polish crime lords start waving their cheque books. It's what we do in British Speedway, we make World Champions. Poland in comparison make decent middle order men who can handle expensively tuned motors on big open tracks, all paid for by a cartel held up with illicit betting scams. It's a shame for Polish speedway that those mafia types stop their riders racing in the UK where they could gain the skills to become World Champion like Ipswich rider Tomasz Gollob. To make Poland a "home" for Aussies then maybe bring some youngsters over and help them on their way, but there's no money in that is there? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) CHRIS HARRIS SETS FAST PACE http://www.ryehouserockets.co Edited July 2, 2017 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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