HenryW Posted October 30, 2016 Report Share Posted October 30, 2016 I wonder if Emil will try to qualify and still do the SEC or if he will concentrate on SGP now. I am assuming that the rules are still the same and he can't get a wildcard for this as he is in the GP again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 I wonder if Emil will try to qualify and still do the SEC or if he will concentrate on SGP now. I am assuming that the rules are still the same and he can't get a wildcard for this as he is in the GP again. Has said on Twitter he's not gonna take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Has said on Twitter he's not gonna take part.Thanks, I must have missed that tweet. That must be a bit of a disappointment to OneSport and their ambitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 31, 2016 Report Share Posted October 31, 2016 Thanks, I must have missed that tweet. That must be a bit of a disappointment to OneSport and their ambitions. https://twitter.com/EmilRacing89/status/791690150573142017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Harris seems to be interested in the SEC https://mobile.twitter.com/speedwaysport/status/795014589046030336 https://mobile.twitter.com/BomberHarris37/status/794969873084510209 Lambert is also mentioned by fans but it seems like there will be fixture clashes which apparently would prevent him from rriding in the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) Harris seems to be interested in the SEC https://mobile.twitter.com/speedwaysport/status/795014589046030336 https://mobile.twitter.com/BomberHarris37/status/794969873084510209 Lambert is also mentioned by fans but it seems like there will be fixture clashes which apparently would prevent him from rriding in the SEC. The fact is that at this point there are no fixtures to clash in Europe for speedway 2017. I find it a bit odd that Konikiewicz is in fact asking in twitter for ACU riders for a wildcard, as the deadline for feds was 5 weeks ago. EDIT: another tweet asking riders to put pressure on ACU. So like said, deadline is long gone... Edited November 6, 2016 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) 1, The fact is that at this point there are no fixtures to clash in Europe for speedway 2017. I find it a bit odd that Konikiewicz is in fact asking in twitter for ACU riders for a wildcard, as the deadline for feds was 5 weeks ago. 2. EDIT: another tweet asking riders to put pressure on ACU. So like said, deadline is long gone... 1. Jan K agrees with this: "In recent years, we were on the start list of players who compete in the English league and there were no problems to reconcile some competition with one another - notes Konikiewicz" 2. It seems they don't really care though: "There is a big chance that in the next year's cycle SEC will see players from England. Representatives of One Sport lead on this conversation with the British motorcycle federation" https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.dk&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://m.sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/644319/brytyjczycy-chca-wrocic-do-sec-one-sport-rozmawia-z-federacja Edited November 10, 2016 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severnsider Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 1. Jan K agrees with this: "In recent years, we were on the start list of players who compete in the English league and there were no problems to reconcile some competition with one another - notes Konikiewicz" It seems they don't really care though: "There is a big chance that in the next year's cycle SEC will see players from England. Representatives of One Sport lead on this conversation with the British motorcycle federation" https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.dk&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http://m.sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/644319/brytyjczycy-chca-wrocic-do-sec-one-sport-rozmawia-z-federacja Think there have been a couple of meetings where the rider in sec has been replaced with a national league rider so not exactly no problems. Having said that can't understand why GB riders have been kept out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 2. It seems they don't really care though: Yeah well they should. One Sport is the promoter of SEC, a FIM Europe competition. Now that FIME has sent out application sheets with a date on them, cant see how it's up to OneSport to change that. it's called breaking the rules at a very basic level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Yeah well they should. One Sport is the promoter of SEC, a FIM Europe competition. Now that FIME has sent out application sheets with a date on them, cant see how it's up to OneSport to change that. it's called breaking the rules at a very basic level. As i said on another thread,the BSPA now have a National Stadium that needs big meetings.In reality there are only very few big meetings and there are a number of tracks after them.It is absolutely necessary now for the BSPA to climb down from their high horse and deal with One Sport so that they can get one of the few big meetings that is reasonably possible to host each year i.e an SEC Final round 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 As i said on another thread,the BSPA now have a National Stadium that needs big meetings.In reality there are only very few big meetings and there are a number of tracks after them.It is absolutely necessary now for the BSPA to climb down from their high horse and deal with One Sport so that they can get one of the few big meetings that is reasonably possible to host each year i.e an SEC Final round I dont have a problem with BSPA or ACU hosting a SEC round. My problem is that all FIM Europe fed's had until Sep 30th to apply for allocations slots. Having received them (what I would have done) theyve combined the lists, seen how many applicants and how many slots and made a preliminary list of how it's done. They had a big conference last weekend to go over things like this. Now if they start taking late entries 6 weeks after deadline from fed's that have a history of not giving a ffökc, I think thats wrong. Mainly because I know Poland is not the one having to give their slots away, it's the smaller countries like us. Dont like that at all... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I dont have a problem with BSPA or ACU hosting a SEC round. My problem is that all FIM Europe fed's had until Sep 30th to apply for allocations slots. Having received them (what I would have done) theyve combined the lists, seen how many applicants and how many slots and made a preliminary list of how it's done. They had a big conference last weekend to go over things like this. Now if they start taking late entries 6 weeks after deadline from fed's that have a history of not giving a ffökc, I think thats wrong. Mainly because I know Poland is not the one having to give their slots away, it's the smaller countries like us. Dont like that at all... Not saying it is right,and not saying it is wrong.Just saying if i was in their position that is what i would do.Money talks.In my opinion there are only a few big meetings that are going to bring in decent crowds.They ain't going to holst a GP.So it is SWC rounds and an SEC Final.SWC finals will only be given every few years.So it has to be an SWC quali and an SEC Final.U21 finals don't really attract that many in my experience. I am a supporter of the little men as much as the next person.Realistically you should be looking to get Sandhoppers into the Champions League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Not saying it is right,and not saying it is wrong.Just saying if i was in their position that is what i would do.Money talks.In my opinion there are only a few big meetings that are going to bring in decent crowds.They ain't going to holst a GP.So it is SWC rounds and an SEC Final.SWC finals will only be given every few years.So it has to be an SWC quali and an SEC Final.U21 finals don't really attract that many in my experience. I am a supporter of the little men as much as the next person.Realistically you should be looking to get Sandhoppers into the Champions League Yeah, realistically. Porin Nopea Racing actually won it having used two different Elitserien riders (Kylmä and Edberg) and one PL rider (Lunna). And we would actually be the closest to have a team without a huge fuss of who's allowed to appear for who. EDIT: Forgot to add that if it's ever ridden again. Edited November 10, 2016 by f-s-p 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Realistically speaking though, does Finland even have any riders to send to SEC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 We've applied for two or three riders for both SEC and SGP qualis. Expecting 1-2 gp and hopefully 2 SEC slots. And F U too for undermining us. The way your system is crashing down ATM will see you passing us on the way down in the not too distant future... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moomin man 76 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Realistically speaking though, does Finland even have any riders to send to SEC? At Under 21 Level, Finland arguably has a better set of riders than Sweden at present...Lunna, Mustonen and Partanen are a match for anything Sweden has to offer. Anyone who seems to think the situation in Sweden is healthy is deluded at best. At senior level, I would guess that Timo Lahti would be a shoe in for a qualifying place and would at least have a fair shot at getting to the SEC Final Qualifier. After that, I guess it would be a question of which other riders would want to participate, but to say Finland wouldn't have any riders to sent to the SEC is a little odd. Edited November 10, 2016 by moomin man 76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 AFAIK Lahti have picked up Swedish license and passport. I also think that Lunna intends to do the same. At least will ride on a Swedish licence, not sure about the passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 AFAIK Lahti have picked up Swedish license and passport. I also think that Lunna intends to do the same. At least will ride on a Swedish licence, not sure about the passport. Doesnt matter, they can ride on SML allocation slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) Doesnt matter, they can ride on SML allocation slots. I thought the conclusion was that it isn't allowed to do so, judging by what you said about Rasmus Jensen riding in the DMU qualifiers last season on a Danish license while using a Swedish license in Elitserien? Imo a rider should not be able to pick and choose. If he/she decides to change licenses / nationality then they'll have to accept the consequences such as not being able to ride in qualifiers due to larger competition from other riders of the same license/nationality that he changed to. Not being able to use the old license/nationality for int. champ. qualifiers but the new license for league racing. Edited November 12, 2016 by Ghostwalker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I thought the conclusion was that it isn't allowed to do so, judging by what you said about Rasmus Jensen riding in the DMU qualifiers last season on a Danish license while using a Swedish license in Elitserien? Imo a rider should not be able to pick and choose. If he/she decides to change licenses / nationality then they'll have to accept the consequences such as not being able to ride in qualifiers due to larger competition from other riders of the same license/nationality that he changed to. Not being able to use the old license/nationality for int. champ. qualifiers but the new license for league racing. Rasmus Jensen did it in 2015, Timo Lahti in 2016. The interpretation? Of the rule changed with RJ case, so same rules now for everybody and I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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