False dawn Posted July 15, 2017 Report Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) NO EUROSPORT CUT HEAT 5 Thanks for that. I thought I'd gone mad. I was trying to catch the end of the tennis and when I switched back the riders are announced and they don't match my programme. Then I realised they were on heat 6. It took me several heats and reading the standings to work out the result of that race and I finally worked out that Mikkel Bech was excluded for crossing the white line. It was a bit strange omission from the transmission. At the next adverts, me and the missus were placing bets on which race they would show next. Edited July 15, 2017 by False dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchGrasstrack Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 My pics from a great night of racing here: https://www.baansportfansite.nl/nieuws/1390/artem-laguta-wint-tweede-ronde-ek-speedway-in-g-strow-.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Video short version all heats- Polish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUg1k65ferM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017  Another great race there from Kai,but do they have to stop the race when someone goes inside the line?????Seems new to me.Thought they just exclude someone and keep the race going   See i am not the only one questioning the ref here.A couple on the German forum have asked the same question....always seem to recall the start marshall at Wimbledon had an exclusion flag and held that out with the riders helmet colour together to show someone had been excluded as the race carried on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 See i am not the only one questioning the ref here.A couple on the German forum have asked the same question....always seem to recall the start marshall at Wimbledon had an exclusion flag and held that out with the riders helmet colour together to show someone had been excluded as the race carried on  IMO there are too many re-runs in general and too uch going back to the pits. Someone falls on lap 3 and positions are fixed - freeze the heat. Unsatisfactory start - going back to the pits = excluded (unless due to tapes or lights malfunction). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Â IMO there are too many re-runs in general and too uch going back to the pits. Someone falls on lap 3 and positions are fixed - freeze the heat. Unsatisfactory start - going back to the pits = excluded (unless due to tapes or lights malfunction). Agreed.I have asked an FIM official about this and wait an answer.But i am pretty sure i have seen a couple of ice racers excluded for crossing the inside line,but the race hasn't been stopped and restarted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Agreed.I have asked an FIM official about this and wait an answer.But i am pretty sure i have seen a couple of ice racers excluded for crossing the inside line,but the race hasn't been stopped and restarted Pretty sure the race wasn't intentionally stopped - ref put red exclusion light on- not stop lights- and a marshall got confused and waved his flag. Shame the rider was in Red !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Pretty sure the race wasn't intentionally stopped - ref put red exclusion light on- not stop lights- and a marshall got confused and waved his flag. Shame the rider was in Red !!!! I was wondering about that,but didn't it happen in two seperate heats?Or is my memory going.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I was wondering about that,but didn't it happen in two seperate heats?Or is my memory going....Heat 5 but due to Eurosport deeming that race unworthy to GB viewers we didn't see it !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I was wondering about that,but didn't it happen in two seperate heats?Or is my memory going.... Â It happened twice in Heat 5 Bech and heat 14 Pawlicki both of them started from gate 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Â It happened twice in Heat 5 Bech and heat 14 Pawlicki both of them started from gate 1. Thanks.At least i wasn't dreaming.But then it is a major cock up if the start marshall made the same mistake twice!!! That is why i thought maybe a new rule or a strange interpretation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytsejam Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Thanks for that. I thought I'd gone mad. I was trying to catch the end of the tennis and when I switched back the riders are announced and they don't match my programme. Then I realised they were on heat 6. It took me several heats and reading the standings to work out the result of that race and I finally worked out that Mikkel Bech was excluded for crossing the white line. It was a bit strange omission from the transmission. At the next adverts, me and the missus were placing bets on which race they would show next. Â Must admit the Eurosport coverage does at times, seem a little odd when they unneccesarily cut out races. However it's good that we still get some coverage of the "lesser" championships from them and in Dave Rowe, they have a commentator who actually COMMENTATES all through the race, even when it gets exciting!. Â The moronic "monkey noise" shouty twins on BT should take note!!.....but of course, they will still stick to their "man out of the crowd" style of amateurish "shouting and screaming" as that's all they are capable of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Thanks.At least i wasn't dreaming.But then it is a major cock up if the start marshall made the same mistake twice!!! That is why i thought maybe a new rule or a strange interpretation Seems from the explanation i have recieved the ref does have the choice to stop the race if he thinks the rider crossing the white line could possibly influence the result of the race.I guess if he carries on he might get in the way of someone else etc before he realises he is excluded and leaves the track!!!This is why Krister Gardel decided to stop the heat both times.No mistake from the start marshall etc Edited July 16, 2017 by iris123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 See i am not the only one questioning the ref here.A couple on the German forum have asked the same question....always seem to recall the start marshall at Wimbledon had an exclusion flag and held that out with the riders helmet colour together to show someone had been excluded as the race carried onThe referee didn't stop the race. The riders pulled up. The referee then stopped the heat which IMO he shouldn't have done. I was at Somerset vs Berwick in about 2005 where the riders all pulled up but the referee let the race carry on, eveually thry realised and the winner won in a time of 85ish seconds compared to the usual 57ish seconds at Somerset.  I've seen riders excluded for crossing the white line and silencers coming off where the start guy just uses his black flag and lolly pops but the race continues. No need to stop the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Yes i have seen the lolly pops.But i have it from someone who was at the jury meeting that the ref explained the reason why he stopped the race...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Jacob Thorssell is the wild card for Hallstavik. Â http://www.speedwayeuro.com/en/news/n/887/ Edited July 20, 2017 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Draw for the 3rd SEC finals round in Hallstavik on Saturday 5th August start time 4pm UK time  Official startlist: 1. Przemysław Pawlicki #59 (Poland)2. Artem Laguta #2 (Russia)3. Nicolai Klindt #29 (Denmark)4. Vaclav Milik #13 (Czech Rep.)5. Leon Madsen #66 (Denmark)6. Mikkel Bech #177 (Denmark)7. Martin Smolinski #84 (Germany)8. Mateusz Szczepaniak #58 (Poland)9. Adrian Miedziński #20 (Poland)10. Jacob Thorssell #16 (Sweden)11. Krzysztof Kasprzak #507 (Poland)12. Andreas Jonsson #100 (Sweden)13. Nicki Pedersen #12 (Denmark)14. Kenneth Bjerre #91 (Denmark)15. Kacper Gomólski #44 (Poland)16. Andzejs Lebedevs #129 (Latvia)17. Kim Nilsson (Sweden)18. Pontus Aspgren (Sweden) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Nicolai Klindt`s season is over- he has decided he cannot carry on with the injury and will try and get fit for 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 Due to other sport on Eurosport next Saturday the SEC 3rd round from Hallstavik which starts at 4pm UK time is being shown on Eurosport 2 "delayed live " at 6pm in a 3 hour programme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 Revised start list Official starting list for the SEC 2017 Round 3 in Hallstavik: 1. Przemysław Pawlicki #59 (Poland)2. Artem Laguta #2 (Russia)3. Andrey Kudryashov #9 (Russia)4. Vaclav Milik #13 (Czech Republic)5. Leon Madsen #66 (Denmark)6. Mikkel Bech #177 (Denmark)7. Martin Smolinski #84 (Germany)8. Mateusz Szczepaniak #58 (Poland)9. Adrian Miedziński #20 (Poland)10. Jacob Thorssell #16 (Sweden)11. Krzysztof Kasprzak #507 (Poland)12. Andreas Jonsson #100 (Sweden)13. Nicki Pedersen #12 (Denmark)14. Kenneth Bjerre #91 (Denmark)15. Kacper Gomólski #44 (Poland)16. Andzejs Lebedevs #129 (Latvia)17. Kim Nilsson (Sweden)18. Pontus Aspgren (Sweden) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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