Bagpuss Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 If we need to discriminate against foreign riders by assessing them all on a minimum of five to get rid of the sub standard ones then so be it. If they were that good clubs would still sign them on five. As for Davey, I don't really like the fact that he is clogging up a team place which a youngster could potentially take up but at the end of the day he has a British passport so there is no argument. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 happy new year to our friends over the wall . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endeavour Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 If we need to discriminate against foreign riders by assessing them all on a minimum of five to get rid of the sub standard ones then so be it. If they were that good clubs would still sign them on five. As for Davey, I don't really like the fact that he is clogging up a team place which a youngster could potentially take up but at the end of the day he has a British passport so there is no argument. Agree with you to a certain extent. Trouble is there is a severe lack of promising GB "youngsters". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 dont think thats the case. During those times there were only a few non Brits outside the top tier (coming in on a 9 I think) and those in the top flight had to achieve 6 to stay there. Where did you get this information from ? I can provide some hard facts regarding National League newcomers in 1990:- Edinburgh's Danish newcomer, Frede Schott was assigned an initial GSA of 2.00, whilst Aussie first timers, such as Ipswich's Shane Parker, started on 3.00 Can you provide provide actual facts to support your memory/thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 If we need to discriminate against foreign riders by assessing them all on a minimum of five to get rid of the sub standard ones then so be it. If they were that good clubs would still sign them on five. As for Davey, I don't really like the fact that he is clogging up a team place which a youngster could potentially take up but at the end of the day he has a British passport so there is no argument. and if the likes of craig cook and a few others had polish passports do you think they would get a ride instead of a upcoming pole i think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Where did you get this information from ? I can provide some hard facts regarding National League newcomers in 1990:- Edinburgh's Danish newcomer, Frede Schott was assigned an initial GSA of 2.00, whilst Aussie first timers, such as Ipswich's Shane Parker, started on 3.00 Can you provide provide actual facts to support your memory/thinking As did Jason Crump in 1992 , happy new year Cyclone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Where did you get this information from ? I can provide some hard facts regarding National League newcomers in 1990:- Edinburgh's Danish newcomer, Frede Schott was assigned an initial GSA of 2.00, whilst Aussie first timers, such as Ipswich's Shane Parker, started on 3.00 Can you provide provide actual facts to support your memory/thinking devils advocate would say post 1990 doesnt represent when the sport was thriving.... Perhaps the two are linked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 devils advocate would say post 1990 doesnt represent when the sport was thriving.... Perhaps the two are linked.... Nice sidestep to avoid providing hard facts to support your thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Agree with you to a certain extent. Trouble is there is a severe lack of promising GB "youngsters". I would say that the NL is churning out more and more youngsters each year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 there are a few riders in nl yes but are they ready/good enough for higher leagues some can hold there own against the lower end riders yes but most are not ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 there are a few riders in nl yes but are they ready/good enough for higher leagues some can hold there own against the lower end riders yes but most are not ready And it will always be so, until the later are given a chance, as they are now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8scot Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Wishing all speedway supporters a very Happy New Year with no rain offs and a safe season for all the riders A'Ra'Best all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Wishing all speedway supporters a very Happy New Year with no rain offs and a safe season for all the riders A'Ra'Best all And same to you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 there are a few riders in nl yes but are they ready/good enough for higher leagues some can hold there own against the lower end riders yes but most are not ready That's all that the need to be able to do as it's the lower end riders that they'll be racing. Then when riders gain experience and move up the team the next riders from the NL move into the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 That's all that the need to be able to do as it's the lower end riders that they'll be racing. Then when riders gain experience and move up the team the next riders from the NL move into the Championship. i agree but which way some are talking they want the ones who arnt ready pushed up too soon which will result in them loosing confidence and not making enough money to continue in the sport untill they are good enough yes the odd 1 who is ready fails to get the step up they need to improve but the thing that worries me is some get the chance too soon and it has the opposite effect it will always be the same its not really got anything to do with foriegn riders coming in on a 4 or 5 or foreign riders being given british passports and coming in on the same as brits its about riders who ride in the lower league not looking like there ready and a unknow foriegn rider is given the chance and team place ahead of them insteed its a gamble that some or most teams are willing to make 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Where did you get this information from ? I can provide some hard facts regarding National League newcomers in 1990:- Edinburgh's Danish newcomer, Frede Schott was assigned an initial GSA of 2.00, whilst Aussie first timers, such as Ipswich's Shane Parker, started on 3.00 Can you provide provide actual facts to support your memory/thinking Shane Parker never came in on a 3 average. He rode at number 2 for Ipswich in his first season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Shane Parker never came in on a 3 average. He rode at number 2 for Ipswich in his first season Wrong, my friend. I was at Foxhall Heath early in May,1990, watching Berwick gaining a draw against the Witches. Shane Parker and Chalky White were the home reserves, and were on the wrong end of a Heat 2 5-1 from Steve Widt and Kevin Little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Shane Parker never came in on a 3 average. He rode at number 2 for Ipswich in his first season Wrong, my friend. I was at Foxhall Heath early in May,1990, watching Berwick gaining a draw against the Witches. Shane Parker and Chalky White were the home reserves, and were on the wrong end of a Heat 2 5-1 from Steve Widt and Kevin Little. So was it a different Shane Parker that rode for Ipswich at Powderhall on 29/4/1990 who was listed with a GSA of 3.00 Gavan? Or has dontforgetthefueltapsbruv been providing you with the "facts" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Young Josh Pickering is picking up some pretty impressive scalps in the Aus Champs. Might have a decent chance of making it over here. If he follows in the footsteps of Max Fricke we'll all be mighty pleased. (Well maybe not "all"!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted January 7, 2017 Report Share Posted January 7, 2017 Young Josh Pickering is picking up some pretty impressive scalps in the Aus Champs. Might have a decent chance of making it over here. If he follows in the footsteps of Max Fricke we'll all be mighty pleased. (Well maybe not "all"!!) Young josh is certainly showing promising signs back home hopefully he will continue that we he arrives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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