Pogo1 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Think you will find he's still an Aussie, he may have a British passport but if he was good enough he has already made it clear he would ride internationally for Australia when he first came to these shores, can't have it both ways, watch this space! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Think you will find he's still an Aussie, he may have a British passport but if he was good enough he has already made it clear he would ride internationally for Australia when he first came to these shores, can't have it both ways, watch this space! However if the same approach as 2016 is followed, Davey is British as far as the SCB rules are concerned. The requirement is possession of a British passport (which as you point out is not the same as sole British nationality). Cf Jade Mudgway's eligibility to ride in 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Who really cares what nationality he comes in on good luck to the lad he deserves a break after all the injuries visa problems he has had, it doesn't affect my club so who Edinburgh sign has nothing to do with me. Edited December 22, 2016 by Gazc 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well said Gazc. The lad seems well settled over here now so hardly should be treated as another Johnny Foreigner. Needs to keep off the scaffolding though, or whatever it was he fell off a few months ago!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Who really cares what nationality he comes in on good luck to the lad he deserves a break after all the injuries visa problems he has had, it doesn't affect my club so who Edinburgh sign has nothing to do with me. But it is quite important when you have to have at least 2 British riders in your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Think you will find he's still an Aussie, he may have a British passport but if he was good enough he has already made it clear he would ride internationally for Australia when he first came to these shores, can't have it both ways, watch this space!Why not,it's Speedway were talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 But it is quite important when you have to have at least 2 British riders in your team. Not sure how the BSPA will view this it doesn't cause problems for any club other than Edinburgh but they have to make the correct decision otherwise it could open a whole can of worms for future reference . To me it's not so much about the rider but the rules involved, but good luck to the lad anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Not sure how the BSPA will view this it doesn't cause problems for any club other than Edinburgh but they have to make the correct decision otherwise it could open a whole can of worms for future reference . To me it's not so much about the rider but the rules involved, but good luck to the lad anyway. speedway itself, is a whole can of worms,,, it might lead to more British passport applications in the future, if you know someone you want,,, apparently if you come thru Calais, you might get 'fast-tracked' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 what absolute utter tosh I am reading on here, he has a british passport therefore he is british - end of discussion! He rode in the national league last season so the bspa have accepted that so it is time for everyone else to accept it and move on. You don't have to like it but that won't change it. He didn't get married to a Scots lass to be able to ride speedway in this country they have been together for a number of years and Edinburgh haven't pulled off some major coup bending rules to sign a world class rider, apart from cookie he is probably their only british asset so he had to be considered for one of the 2 british slots they are forced to have in the team this year. I was there when Mitch had his big off at Sheffield, it was one of the worst accidents I have seen. just glad to see he is back able to ride it's been a long hard slog and I hope he makes a good go of it. With an injury free season I definitely think he can improve his starting average given the level of the league this year, 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogo1 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 So if there was to be a Championship Great Britain test series match v Australia and Mark Lemon asked him to race for Australia he would say no I'm British, like hell he would ! I'm not against the boy racing but Edinburgh should have to sign a British rider as there 7th and final rider to go with Clegg. Only in speedway I'm afraid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I blame the schools but I smell your fear. The BSPA agreed this year he was British enough for them but he's obviously not British enough for some of our neighbours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanAndersen Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 So if there was to be a Championship Great Britain test series match v Australia and Mark Lemon asked him to race for Australia he would say no I'm British, like hell he would ! I'm not against the boy racing but Edinburgh should have to sign a British rider as there 7th and final rider to go with Clegg. Only in speedway I'm afraid. What a load of bollocks. What makes someone British? Can't say I'm that excited by the signing but he's got a British passport so he counts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm not against the boy racing but Edinburgh should have to sign a British rider as there 7th and final rider to go with Clegg. Only in speedway I'm afraid. nope try cricket rugby football infact any sport 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owenbros Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Mitchell riding at number 7 is wrong. Edinburgh should have to do what everyone else has had to do and sign a genuine 2 point rider. He may have an average around that mark but it's not in the interests of the sport. No harm at all to Mitchell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) Mitchell riding at number 7 is wrong. Edinburgh should have to do what everyone else has had to do and sign a genuine 2 point rider. He may have an average around that mark but it's not in the interests of the sport. No harm at all to Mitchell. he didnt gain a avererage last year so should he be classed as a new rider like mason compton and others were last year not sure of full details regarding him qualifying as british but he came over as a aussie so cant see why hes any different to the likes of ty proctor who was made to go home or mason campton who was made wait till he qualified and the others whove been made to stay or go back to australia yes living here full time like rusty harison did without going home should count for something but not the full on 2 pt british rider thingy Edited December 22, 2016 by scarra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Do proctor and campton have British passports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston197 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just google the Wiki entry for "Plastic Brit" and you will see just how rife this procedure is especially in Athletics, it does not seem to matter where you are from, or where your parents ,grand parents are from as long as you have a GB passport you are British in the eyes of the governing bodies , and if you have not got one, then the process for obtaining one can be circumvented in the interests of "sport" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just google the Wiki entry for "Plastic Brit" and you will see just how rife this procedure is especially in Athletics, it does not seem to matter where you are from, or where your parents ,grand parents are from as long as you have a GB passport you are British in the eyes of the governing bodies , and if you have not got one, then the process for obtaining one can be circumvented in the interests of "sport" Nationality in all sports has been a bit of a joke for decades, in rugby if you have Scottish mum an English dad,one Irish grandmother the other grandmother Welsh, a granddad French the other granddad Italian, you can play for any of those countries, a total joke. Nationality should be simple, the country in which you are born is your nationality, when it comes to passports , the passport you use 90% to100% of the time that would define your nationality, someone with a dual passport for convenience, should be outlawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 So if there was to be a Championship Great Britain test series match v Australia and Mark Lemon asked him to race for Australia he would say no I'm British, like hell he would ! I'm not against the boy racing but Edinburgh should have to sign a British rider as there 7th and final rider to go with Clegg. Only in speedway I'm afraid. That is completely irrelevant he has dual nationality and now qualifies to ride for both countries. In the same way they may choose to move back to Australia in the future and Donna could apply for an Aussie passport. It really is quite simple. Then the old "only in speedway" jibe, clueless. Its strange people call themselves speedway supporters then talk down the sport at every opportunity they get. Every sport has people apply for a new nationality in order to play for a national side: athletics, football and rugby have far more than speedway ever will. I agree when people start qualifying because of residency it starts to push the boundaries of what is acceptable but ultimately it is up to the civil service who gets citizenship and no sports body has the right to change that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Johnston1 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Mitchell riding at number 7 is wrong. Edinburgh should have to do what everyone else has had to do and sign a genuine 2 point rider. He may have an average around that mark but it's not in the interests of the sport. No harm at all to Mitchell. When Glasgow signed Nick Morris what average did he come in on? (I cannot remember) Did he not have dual nationality and has since went on to represent Australia. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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