LisaColette Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 and where does criticizing a rider who help raise money for him fit into this new and improved attitude? Darcy certainly hasn't got better even after everything that happened to him which is worseHow did he criticise him? He just didn't want Nicki to win SEC! And when questioned about it said it was cos Nicki fenced him more than any other rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odds On Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Jeez, remind exactly what Tai has done here as some of you think he has committed the cardinal sin of showing some character and giving some back. Craig Boyce was cheered and loved by thousands for his one punch on a fellow rider, yet Tai makes a few hand gestures and calls people a few names. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 He was banned during his last season before the dreadful injury, he was hardly growing up. Blamed everyone but himself for that failed test controversy and was calling fans all sorts of names on social media. I'm not defending Tai by the way but he hasn't done half the stuff darcy did. He also seems to have a thing about Nicki Pedersen, it's almost as if he's transferring his anger about his injury on him. To be fair, they are both classless. With Tai last night. maybe he should learn to suck it up and say nothing. The atmosphere came across as brilliant last night, so it added a bit of spice. Shame we didn't get to see more of the handbags at the pit gate after Cookie and Lindgren came to helmets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Jeez, remind exactly what Tai has done here as some of you think he has committed the cardinal sin of showing some character and giving some back. Craig Boyce was cheered and loved by thousands for his one punch on a fellow rider, yet Tai makes a few hand gestures and calls people a few names. I'm not bothered with the on track banter and posturing, adds to the atmosphere.... Brings back memories of my early memories of speedway.... It's purely what he said in the LIVE TV interview... Calling some fans "IDIOTS" that's my problem, and probably everyone else's.. You can't do/say that in a LIVE TV interview!! "IDIOTGATE" Has it been edited out on the SKY TV reruns? Can anyone confirm? Edited October 6, 2016 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) The pinnacle of hypocrisy is praising Cook for his ''passion'' whilst having a go at Woffinden who wasn't squaring up to other riders and trying to headbutt them with a helmet on! But Cookie has not done anything to offend the crowd to my mind Woofy has. Turned his back on British league speedway.(According to last night his much beloved Wolves.) Turned his back on the British final. Turned his back on riding for his country. Gave away his medal as though it meant nothing to him. disrespects the National anthem. So where is his passion for his country He then turns up in the British league as what alot of Belle vue fans(and others) think is a ringer just because all his other plans have gone to pot.Then reacts to the crowds first taunt in a bad way which then eggs them on to give him more. No i have not got a clue why some fans might give him a little verbal stick. All i know is that N Pedersen takes a hell of a lot more all around the world(even from other riders the little monsters) but realises that he is a top sports man and takes it like a man. Edited October 6, 2016 by B.V 72 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Thumper Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 When Ole Olsen had a bad ride at Hyde Road, you would hear Soldier Boy bellowing, "Where's Ole Olsen!" and waving his arms at him. Ole Olsen would just laugh. When somebody had a go at Peter Collins for something, he would shrug his shoulders and give them a wave. The only person that seemed to get a bit rattled with the crowd having a go at him, as I remember was Kenny Carter who seemed a bit lacking on the sense of humour front! For me, the banter and the crowd involvement are part and parcel of speedway. And riders having a bit of a set-to after the race can be quite entertaining, as long as their mates don't feel they have to join in. I think some riders need to climb down from their high horses, lighten up a bit and not take themselves quite so seriously. Congratulations to both teams for making it a great event and congratulations to the Belle Vue management and staff for making it a great night. Make it so. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 That was a brilliant meeting last night on a brilliant track. Full of passion and Kelvins "Proper speedway" If only there were 7 other stadiums/tracks (i'm dreaming ) the long term decline in British speedway could be arrested. I know it is difficult in the UK with planning regulations and general antipathy towards the sport and local communities being indifferent or hostile, but if we could get more like this we wouldn't be such a poor third to Poland and Sweden. Well done Belle Vue- you got it just right . You are a grand old club. Hyde Road was the spiritual home of British speedway and i hope this is a springboard to even greater success. Alan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 All wolves riders were booed, it was banter and great for the atmosphere. But woffinden as usual makes it all about him. The guy simply can give it but can't take it but we all new that anyway. Pk reacted by waving to the crowd. I remember Holder being booed in last years final and at the end he booed when he walked past the Aces fans, thats banter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 When Ole Olsen had a bad ride at Hyde Road, you would hear Soldier Boy bellowing, "Where's Ole Olsen!" and waving his arms at him. Ole Olsen would just laugh. When somebody had a go at Peter Collins for something, he would shrug his shoulders and give them a wave. Soldier Boy !! Now that's a name fro the past.... First met him when he followed Ray Wilson, and then later when he cotton on to Peter Collins. Remember one day at Saddlebow Rd, when 'Peeter was having one of his many dices with Lee, he had engine failure. Such was the laughter and abuse from the packed grandstand, Soldier Boy got up and left amidst the cheers...... Great times, Terrific bloke, Wonderful memories...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'm not bothered with the on track banter and posturing, adds to the atmosphere.... Brings back memories of my early memories of speedway.... It's purely what he said in the LIVE TV interview... Calling some fans "IDIOTS" that's my problem, and probably everyone else's.. You can't do/say that in a LIVE TV interview!! "IDIOTGATE" Has it been edited out on the SKY TV reruns? Can anyone confirm? Why do you keep saying this? I've heard sports people say it MANY times when they've received particularly personal abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I just feel a sportsman at the top of his game should be a role model, setting an example. Other than the flying clothes line at Nicki , you wouldn't catch Hancock behaving like Tai did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ommer Mon Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 - says it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Tai's got small man syndrome Well I have to say he's always look up to me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shale Searcher Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Why do you keep saying this? I've heard sports people say it MANY times when they've received particularly personal abuse. What? You mean you've heard them call some of the crowd "IDIOTS" in a live TV interview? Who, when, where? Because I haven't.. This is my only gripe, the LIVE TV interview, the rest was banter, high jinx, verbals and gestures... The TV interview was my gripe... Edited October 6, 2016 by Shale Searcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bonzo Posted October 6, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 My god there's some drips on here! Firstly, it was a top meeting on a superb racetrack and Belle Vue gave it a fair crack when others would have given up after the first leg; so credit to all the riders for putting on a show. As far as Cook's reaction in heat 13 goes, it was understandable; he was fired up and from his point of view it would have felt like Lindgren chopped him, so I've no problem with him showing some emotion. I will add that as much as I think Lindgren is a dangerous twonk, I though the move was a fair one. Cook had the piss taken out of him for his interview after by some dicks. For me, what we saw was someone who really cared and was genuinely hurting after losing; that's the kind of bloke I want in my team any day of the week. As for the Tai stuff, once again it's the usual plumsacks who are wading into him, purely driven by their dislike of him. If a certain Dane does it, he's one of the sports characters who are sadly disappearing; if Tai does it, he's a disgrace blah, blah, blah, whinge, moan. Friends of mine were there last night, Belle Vue fans as it happens and they told me that it wasn't how some would have you believe. He wasn't just being booed, he was getting all kinds of verbal and hand gestures given to him by men and women, several with kids in tow. It was then he gave some back, he didn't instigate it. Should he have given it back? Too farken right he should! All this old swill about role models; your role models are your parents, you shouldn't be relying on sportsman to be your kids role models, teach them right from wrong yourselves and if you're gonna stand there in front of your kids, giving the w**ker signs, calling him a c**t etc then your the ones responsible for how they conduct themselves. Tai stood up to them and so he should. Farken holier than thou's giving it the biggun and then squealing about it when they get it back. Morons. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 What? You mean you've heard them call some of the crowd "IDIOTS" in a live TV interview? Who, when, where? Because I haven't.. Yes and far worse! Only last night Adam Jones of Baltimore Orioles about certain Toronto fans. Speedway fans do amuse me.. We get post after post about the lack of characters in the sport, the lack of interaction with the fans, how riders in the 'good old days' would be booed out the stadium and would give as much back winding up the crowd.. Then along comes someone who does all that, resulting in an epic night's entertainment and folk are whinging about it! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I just feel a sportsman at the top of his game should be a role model, setting an example. Other than the flying clothes line at Nicki , you wouldn't catch Hancock behaving like Tai did. And Hancock is dull! Booing, jeering and a few hand signals is what sport should be about. Nobody died, nobody got injured, so why does it matter? Winding up riders is part of the fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 And Hancock is dull! Booing, jeering and a few hand signals is what sport should be about. Nobody died, nobody got injured, so why does it matter? Winding up riders is part of the fun! Exactly, I've seen riders jump the fence to have a go at fans in the past... but they were characters.. But calling 'some' fans idiots... terrible... dear me. Belle Vue clearly had a pre-orchestrated plan last night to get at Woffinden. From the announcer ALL meeting making sarcastic comments about the World Champion riding at No 4 and how him riding there 'wasn't in the spirit of the rules'. He made sure everyone knew this before the meeting started and repeated it over and over throughout the night. They even went so far as to print a false average for Woffinden in the programme making it appear that he was the highest averaging rider, which of course led to some natives claiming we were cheating and he should be at No 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 So why can Belle Vue prepare a track that suits the new faster engines, but nobody else can ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 It's one thing blocking a rider by riding out to the fence forcing the rider BEHIND to shut off or slow, it's totally different when 3 riders are racing neck and neck and one of them (Lindgren) put Cookie in a sandwich between Lindgren and Zagar. There is a fine line between too tough and fair riding, Freddie overstepped it last night. You summed up brilliantly what happened in that race UNTIL the final bit!!! You are correct Lingren did use Zagar to make Cook stranded in the middle of the Sandwich,it was a class move to shut the door on what he had to do.Cook was stranded in no mans land and Lingren made the move work.Super and vital at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.