Ace no.5 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 So the guy is called all and sundry all night and then gives a little bit back, no one has been harmed and I bet if he ever signs for the Aces he'll be the Peoples Poet.He didn't "give a little bit back" AFTER being called all and sundry all night though! He was flicking the gestures after his first race! That just incited the crowd! He is a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Congratulations to Wolves, a deserved win. Lindgren the best rider over the two legs and great to see PK bowing out of the EL with such a good performance. Belle Vue can only blame themselves for their poor performance at Wolverhampton, it was just one of those nights and unfortunately happened in such an important meeting. However, what a night. Great racing, everyone giving total commitment, Aces clawing back enough points to keep it interesting and a massive crowd. I expected to be really disappointed if we lost but wasn't, how can you be after a night of entertainment like that, speedway as good as I've seen. It is proof of what can be done if others can have the vision and determination to do what David Gordon and Chris Morton have done. I suspect most of us would have laughed out loud and thought them stupid if they had told us what they were setting out to achieve back in 2007. Given the right stage this sport of ours can still be brilliant. There was more than enough space for Lindgren to pass without touching Cook's front wheel and I can understand Cook's reaction because it could have been disastrous for him if he had lost control. It was only handbags on the track after the race and nothing at all wrong with one rider letting another know he isn't happy with him, it adds to the entertainment. What was wrong from what I saw was a Wolves mechanic running out of the pits and attacking Cook which resulted in the melee that followed. Woffinden just showed himself up for what he is with his actions to the crowd and his comments on TV and social media. He has used British speedway to keep race fit and earn some money when meetings dried up in Poland and Sweden and is apparently then surprised when fans boo him. What a team we would have next year if we could find 7 riders with the passion and commitment shown by Craig Cook. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Congratulations to Wolves, a deserved win. Lindgren the best rider over the two legs and great to see PK bowing out of the EL with such a good performance. Belle Vue can only blame themselves for their poor performance at Wolverhampton, it was just one of those nights and unfortunately happened in such an important meeting. However, what a night. Great racing, everyone giving total commitment, Aces clawing back enough points to keep it interesting and a massive crowd. I expected to be really disappointed if we lost but wasn't, how can you be after a night of entertainment like that, speedway as good as I've seen. It is proof of what can be done if others can have the vision and determination to do what David Gordon and Chris Morton have done. I suspect most of us would have laughed out loud and thought them stupid if they had told us what they were setting out to achieve back in 2007. Given the right stage this sport of ours can still be brilliant. There was more than enough space for Lindgren to pass without touching Cook's front wheel and I can understand Cook's reaction because it could have been disastrous for him if he had lost control. It was only handbags on the track after the race and nothing at all wrong with one rider letting another know he isn't happy with him, it adds to the entertainment. What was wrong from what I saw was a Wolves mechanic running out of the pits and attacking Cook which resulted in the melee that followed. Woffinden just showed himself up for what he is with his actions to the crowd and his comments on TV and social media. He has used British speedway to keep race fit and earn some money when meetings dried up in Poland and Sweden and is apparently then surprised when fans boo him. What a team we would have next year if we could find 7 riders with the passion and commitment shown by Craig Cook. A team that would throw its dummy out after being ultimately not good enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 he also said he saw it coming 5 seconds before , so why didn't he cut back ? Also watching it back Freddie doesn't go that close to woffinden and even if he did it's the world championship and he is there to win , not make friends or help out a fellow rider which is something woffinden seems to expect , I notice woffy not saying a word to holder when he closes the door to him on the back straight when they met It's one thing blocking a rider by riding out to the fence forcing the rider BEHIND to shut off or slow, it's totally different when 3 riders are racing neck and neck and one of them (Lindgren) put Cookie in a sandwich between Lindgren and Zagar. There is a fine line between too tough and fair riding, Freddie overstepped it last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 There is more to being a champion than just winning titles in my view. I felt the same about Nicki Pedersen. It's a shame as I really want to like Tai but it's becoming all too common a theme these days. He needs to grow up and man up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Disagree wholeheartedly (in response to phillipsr). Edited October 6, 2016 by Ace no.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 AMUSING moment at BV last night ... was chatting to hero Alan Wilkinson in the Peter Craven suite before the meeting, along with Dave Morton who had turned away and was looking out across the track. Along came Chris Morton, who said: "Have you seen Mort?" "I'm looking at him I replied somewhat incredulously." "No, Mort, my brother." Me: "He's about three feet away." Chris: "Mort (to his brother) have you got that ticket I gave you?" Dave: "Mort (to his brother), do you want it back?" Chris: "Yes please Mort." Dave: "Okay Mort." By now my head was spinning. As Mort (Chris) was walking away Mort (Dave) said: "Great, he's gives me a ticket then takes it away. Wilkie and I were laughing. What a star Wilkie remains. Still doesn't mince his wards. "Matej Zagar, I'd give him a kick up his **** He was a giant when he rode for Belle Vue and remains so today. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) But they were idiots? As far as I was concerned they were too and I'd say he had a right to say it as well. Woffinden did nothing before some in the grandstand started on him other than turn up. They then barracked him throughout the meeting whenever he was on track, totally unnecessarily. What precisely had he done to deserve that ? As I have said, I don't like riders taunting the crowd but when they have been at one for the entire meeting its very hard to be critical if he gives it back. Edited October 6, 2016 by Halifaxtiger 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Its funny to me how a fair number of people criticizing Tai are the same ones who backed Darcy Ward whi has always been a complete d**k He did on Instagram! Not a great choice of words there at all Tai is definitely worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Disagree wholeheartedly (in response to phillipsr). Which point? Tai is definitely worse. Haha not even close!! Has he turned up p*****d yet? Has he rode away from police whilst stoned yet? Has he criticized a rider who helped to raise money for him yet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Brilliant night of Speedway, it had everything that is great about our sport, including controversy. I want to congratulate Wolves on a good well earned victory, I personally am not surprised as I did say at the beginning of the season when we were all making our predictions that Wolves were the dark horses. I also want to say how proud I am of our 1-7 for giving us a great season and finishing top of the table at the end, however Wolves were a tad to good in the P/Off final. For next season if we are to have the B/W Tac ride again then let's hope they (BSPA) have the balls to make it fair. The P/Off's are aggregate score matches and when Wolves played it in heat 9 they were still in front 73-65. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 There is more to being a champion than just winning titles in my view. I felt the same about Nicki Pedersen. It's a shame as I really want to like Tai but it's becoming all too common a theme these days. He needs to grow up and man up. After heat 9 (in which he had blown a tactical ride which could have cost Wolves dear) he made a point of shaking the hands of Richie and Steve Worrall. It showed how sporting he can be when he's not being abused for no reason whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 A team that would throw its dummy out after being ultimately not good enough... The pinnacle of hypocrisy is praising Cook for his ''passion'' whilst having a go at Woffinden who wasn't squaring up to other riders and trying to headbutt them with a helmet on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Tai's words on Facebook... "We killed it last night soon shut up all that scum that was booing me all night". Stay classy.He is like the worst role model ever! Can not handle getting booed that is Nicki is more of a man, at least Nicki embraces it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 As far as I was concerned they were too and I'd say he had a right to say it as well. Woffinden did nothing before some in the grandstand started on him other than turn up. They then barracked him throughout the meeting whenever he was on track, totally unnecessarily. What precisely had he done to deserve that ? As I have said, I don't like riders taunting the crowd but when they have been at one for the entire meeting its very hard to be critical if he gives it back. It made the atmosphere electric, I happen to be a big fan of the Tai, and love watching him race however a bit of crowd banter is good for the sport and sport's personalities should take it (most do) as part and parcel of being one of the top sports stars. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 Tai is definitely worse. I'm sorry but that certainly isn't the case. Tai hasn't turned up over the limit intending to ride. That's pretty much the lowest it can get for me. Darcy did similar hand gestures at Brandon in 2010 anyway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'm sorry but that certainly isn't the case. Tai hasn't turned up over the limit intending to ride. That's pretty much the lowest it can get for me. Darcy did similar hand gestures at Brandon in 2010 anyway!I meant in attitude! 2010 is six years ago, Darcy gradually got better each year regarding growing up, attitude improving. Whereas Tai gets worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I meant in attitude! 2010 is six years ago, Darcy gradually got better each year regarding growing up, attitude improving. Whereas Tai gets worse! and where does criticizing a rider who help raise money for him fit into this new and improved attitude? Darcy certainly hasn't got better even after everything that happened to him which is worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I meant in attitude! 2010 is six years ago, Darcy gradually got better each year regarding growing up, attitude improving. Whereas Tai gets worse! He was banned during his last season before the dreadful injury, he was hardly growing up. Blamed everyone but himself for that failed test controversy and was calling fans all sorts of names on social media. I'm not defending Tai by the way but he hasn't done half the stuff darcy did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 I didn't see much wrong with Lindgrens overtake of Cookie, hard yes, but have seen worse in the GPs. Looks to me like the handbags were started by the pit crews, nothing wrong in Cookie letting Lindgren know his point of view. From what I have seen, this track is better than the old Hyde Road. A good interview with Adams, talked sense without the bragging. Could be because of the meaningless league fixtures until the play-offs, that crowds are poor during the season. The Elite league needs more teams in it, just stagnating the way it is. One thing it did show was that there are far too many hangers on in the pits. People getting involved who shouldnt have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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