JCookie Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Could always slash his asking price and ride for a reasonable sum. Fancy British Speedway making a rider do that, how the hell did they think it up between them?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) It would be possible to easily fit Chris Holder and Hans Andersen but the team may look something like this;  1) Chris Holder 2) Kyle Newman 3) Jack Holder 4) Michael Palm Toft 5) Hans Andersen 6) Nike Lunna 7) Ellis Perks  So not all would be lost having 2 strong heat leaders as this I believe would squeeze under the 50 point mark.  Edited: Actually looking at this team it would easily break the 'only two riders are allowed to double up rule'. Personally I do not like the rule. Edited November 7, 2016 by Joe Beevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Is that an actual rule yet? Thought it was just speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerman Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 How about signing two stars & several ringers, then do a Coventry as there is no chance of retaining an average of 13 anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 read:http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/speedway/piratesnews/14873599.Speedway__Team_place_struggle_for_Ellis_as_Pirates_door_closes/?ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter  Officially no Ellis then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) read:http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/speedway/piratesnews/14873599.Speedway__Team_place_struggle_for_Ellis_as_Pirates_door_closes/?ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter  Officially no Ellis then. Shame for Ellis but no club will touch him on that average. He isn't really capable of scoring it each week in the main team. I guess his downfall was settling for the easier rides of the NL rather than riding in the PL which would have helped his average for this year.  Can he still ride NL next year or is his average too high now it's been inflated? Edited November 8, 2016 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Ellis will have offers I'm sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Ellis will have offers I'm sure. On a 7+ average which would see him riding as a heatleader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 not according to what he is saying shame on the bspa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 A ridiculous situation for the lad. The bspa are wrecking the career of a fine British prospect by saddling him with an average too high. Â His average should be adjusted down by the management committee so he can get a team berth somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 On a 7+ average which would see him riding as a heatleader? His average is right, he achieved it mainly as a 2nd string. The likes of Garrity and Worrall are way over 8 so it's likely Ellis would've averaged between 7-8 in the PL anyway. Team could get him in as a 2nd string if they build there team right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 A ridiculous situation for the lad. The bspa are wrecking the career of a fine British prospect by saddling him with an average too high. His average should be adjusted down by the management committee so he can get a team berth somewhere. But somewhere else there will be another rider who misses out on a team place - tough as it is on Adam I don't think you can start making any exceptions. Don't forget these average rules and limits are the only way the top league could have attracted the clubs required to keep it viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 not according to what he is saying shame on the bspa He will get offers I doubt clubs are finished contacting riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 His average is right, he achieved it mainly as a 2nd string. The likes of Garrity and Worrall are way over 8 so it's likely Ellis would've averaged between 7-8 in the PL anyway. Team could get him in as a 2nd string if they build there team right. Â Most people on here are thinking that a rider with 7 or an 8 is too high. But we need to address the thinking of the top riders. riders like JD; CH, NKI are all averaged way above the 12 point ceiling, so when looking at people like Ellis, Garrity and similar they need to be of a proportion of that enlarged figure. Â So 7 for a decent 2nd string is not that high........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Â Most people on here are thinking that a rider with 7 or an 8 is too high. But we need to address the thinking of the top riders. riders like JD; CH, NKI are all averaged way above the 12 point ceiling, so when looking at people like Ellis, Garrity and similar they need to be of a proportion of that enlarged figure. Â So 7 for a decent 2nd string is not that high........ Agree 7 would be fine. But he has been given nearly 8. There are more experienced riders available with lower averages than Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Â Most people on here are thinking that a rider with 7 or an 8 is too high. But we need to address the thinking of the top riders. riders like JD; CH, NKI are all averaged way above the 12 point ceiling, so when looking at people like Ellis, Garrity and similar they need to be of a proportion of that enlarged figure. Â So 7 for a decent 2nd string is not that high........ Agreed. I can understand fans saying it's not an attractive average but that's his level now. Of course he will lose a bit of that average but so will the vast majority of riders. I'd be shocked if he didn't get a spot. Agree 7 would be fine. But he has been given nearly 8. There are more experienced riders available with lower averages than Adam. But that's because they had a poor season, Ellis was better than them last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 You can't go round reducing the averages of certain riders, rules are rules. In any case I think he would have averaged nearly eight in the PL last season bearing in mind the form he was in for Poole and internationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Â A ridiculous situation for the lad. The bspa are wrecking the career of a fine British prospect by saddling him with an average too high. Â His average should be adjusted down by the management committee so he can get a team berth somewhere. Or Poole could've kept him, of course they couldn't possibly do that! Edited November 8, 2016 by Trees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Or Poole could've kept him, of course they couldn't possibly do that!Exactly. If Poole thought he was that good and had lots of potential then they could have kept him on a 7average. Why should rules be changed for them. Â They are lucky Newman is so poor in the PL and still only on a 6 average as they wouldn't have kept him if on a 8+ one Edited November 8, 2016 by mdmc82 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 A ridiculous situation for the lad. The bspa are wrecking the career of a fine British prospect by saddling him with an average too high. Â His average should be adjusted down by the management committee so he can get a team berth somewhere. Last season you kept harping on about how good Ellis is and how close he is to being as good as R.Lambert.So should Lambert get a reduction on his 8.76 average,because clearly it would be wrecking the career of a fine British prospect.I don't think you would want to see that would you,unless he was to ride for Poole of course. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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