Pirate Baz Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 There's normally about a week between riding the required amount of matches and then attaining the new average. Why? If the average was attained on 19th July surely it is applicable from that date. I know we're talking about speedway's governing bodies here so I'm not going to win this one. Thanks anyway for the responses guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 But the KOC cup matches were ridden at the start of April so KK's fourth home meeting was 19th July at which point his average became 5.5. Kennett signed after that date. Â The new average is effective seven days after completing 4H and 4A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Why? If the average was attained on 19th July surely it is applicable from that date. I know we're talking about speedway's governing bodies here so I'm not going to win this one. Thanks anyway for the responses guys. to allow room for teams to manipulate the situation to suit them getting in a higher averaged rider than would otherwise be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) As much as most Poole fans wanted rid of KK, if Matt was struggling to replace him with a 'top' rider on his 9.23 average - as he admitted he was -, then surely KK would have been worth sticking with for another week (2 more meetings before the cut-off) as a 2nd string on 5.51. If he still didn't perform then Eddie could still have come in before the cut-off as that 1-7 is below the 42 point limit. It only goes above 42 points when Brady returns from injury to replace Richie. Â Anyway another loan fee to keep the cash flow going!! Edited July 29, 2017 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 As much as most Poole fans wanted rid of KK, if Matt was struggling to replace him with a 'top' rider on his 9.23 average - as he admitted he was -, then surely KK would have been worth sticking with for another week (2 more meetings before the cut-off) as a 2nd string on 5.51. If he still didn't perform then Eddie could still have come in before the cut-off as that 1-7 is below the 42 point limit. It only goes above 42 points when Brady returns from injury to replace Richie. Â Anyway another loan fee to keep the cash flow going!! I could be wrong but wouldn`t Kurtz`s average still be in the 1 to 7 for an injury replacement- Ie you couldn`t make other changes using Worrall`s average for the team total. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 I could be wrong but wouldn`t Kurtz`s average still be in the 1 to 7 for an injury replacement- Ie you couldn`t make other changes using Worrall`s average for the team total.It has to be like this. Anything else would be insanity...Then again, it is speedway we're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 It's amazing you can still get a loan fee after the rider just been sacked still we are talking speedway here !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 It's amazing you can still get a loan fee after the rider just been sacked still we are talking speedway here !!Not sure why you find that strange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Not sure why you find that strange?yes I know but why should it be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Why? If the average was attained on 19th July surely it is applicable from that date. I know we're talking about speedway's governing bodies here so I'm not going to win this one. Thanks anyway for the responses guys. If there wasn't a week's delay it wouldn't be possible to plan for imminent meetings - guests, programme printing etc. It does also allow planned team changes of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 If there wasn't a week's delay it wouldn't be possible to plan for imminent meetings - guests, programme printing etc. It does also allow planned team changes of course. Some years ago there was that big row about I think it was Ipswich v Swindon- when Swindon turned up with a guest whose average had changed overnight and they " claimed" they didn`t know !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Some years ago there was that big row about I think it was Ipswich v Swindon- when Swindon turned up with a guest whose average had changed overnight and they " claimed" they didn`t know !!!!!Joel Parsons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 How many indentities does this one individual have......Gater1, Speedway Fanatic, Poole Bolton, KKS....Christ alive   You forgot Jeremy Corbyn Fan to add to the above and no doubt a couple of others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 The new average is effective seven days after completing 4H and 4A. KK didn't do 4H & 4A he did 3H & 5A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 KK didn't do 4H & 4A he did 3H & 5A He did with the KOC which they included this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 He did with the KOC which they included this season. That's not what 16.2.1 says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 That's not what 16.2.1 saysbut its what they did!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_O Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Thought it was just league matches as per the regulations? He did with the KOC which they included this season. 16.2.1 ESTABLISHED MA’s are calculated, for a specified number of applicable Meetings, taking account of the number of heats and points (excluding Bonus Points) that a rider has scored. The applicable Meetings are: SGB Premiership: League Meetings, excluding the Play-Offs SGB Championship: League Meetings, excluding the Play-Offs National Development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) The problem was that they agreed not to issue any new 2017 averages until all the SGP teams had done the 4h and 4 a- however it was getting to halfway through the season and they needed to get them out so they decided that as all the teams took part in the KOC round 1 so they included them- Presumably as all the promoters agreed - the SCB wouldn`t object !!!( in fact they might have issued an amendment) Edited July 29, 2017 by racers and royals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Anyone know why Poole let KK go on a 5.5 average? Seems an awful decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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