Gavan Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Under perform and your out at Poole. Unless you are a blonde Pole of course. Pooles troubles all stem from signing KK..................everyone knew he wasnt an out and out number one and its come back on Poole quite hard. You never know time the play offs come round Tai might be available........at least that way Poole might get within touching distance of Wolves over 2 legs! Once again no loyalty poor decision Poole have never been loyal to any rider..........ask Mark Loram! But then again what do Poole fans want? A winning team that could win the league ..........or being a team that makes up the numbers but retains the same riders all the time. Its perfectly clear that Matt Ford wants the former ............and loyalty isnt in his vocabulary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWatson Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 So if the 4h 4a figure is irrelevant how is Paul replacing Kyle. PS 6.62 KN 6.31 Current team total is 49.45, allows up to 6.86 to replace Kyle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Starke has been solid for Panthers this season, & will probably score more than Newman on current form. Still think that Poole should have given Newman a few matches at reserve, to get his confidence up again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 I'm sure you had many season's of success in the old premier league. You've only stuttered since you came up a league. We did and the promotion then wasn't shy to make changes. Since going EL we've gone soft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Well done Mr. Ford. Not being nasty to Kyle as I respect him but even Kyle said he's not ready. I said 1 of Newman or Shanes had to go. If KK comes back and rides like he can then the BSPA might as well give us the title ASAP. No pressure on Shanes now so hopefully James can relax and get a few points on the road. Why Shanes though? More often than not he seems to be scoring above his average at home which is all you can ask for from 2 pointer, any points away from home are a bonus. I've seen Belle Vue fans moan about Jack Smith too, another 2 pointer. I'm not sure what people are expecting from riders on such a low average, there's a reason they are 2 pointers...... Well done Mr. Ford. Not being nasty to Kyle as I respect him but even Kyle said he's not ready. I said 1 of Newman or Shanes had to go. If KK comes back and rides like he can then the BSPA might as well give us the title ASAP. No pressure on Shanes now so hopefully James can relax and get a few points on the road. KK hasn't been riding ''like he can'' in for England for years - why would that change? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Shanes was in danger because of other riders scoring poorly (KK & Newman) and that's why I was saying Shanes should go because we cant have a reserve scoring 0 as well as a main body rider struggling to beat anyone other than 2nd strings and reserves. Whatever Shanes scored was a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Shanes was in danger because of other riders scoring poorly (KK & Newman) and that's why I was saying Shanes should go because we cant have a reserve scoring 0 as well as a main body rider struggling to beat anyone other than 2nd strings and reserves. Now that we have brought in Starke for Newman I am more than happy to have James in the team We now have Starke for Newman and Starke will score 6 points a meeting in the main body therefore that would take some pressure off of James whilst before we had Newman scoring 2-3 points a meeting and Shanes scoring nothing away from home. If Shanes continues scoring 0 on the road it wouldn't be a big issue now whilst before it was due to other riders. Starke will get 6 points a meeting whilst Kyle would get 3-4 points a meeting on current form and that means there isn't as much pressure on James to beat fellow 2.00 riders as there was because Starke will be improving our 1-5 overall tally by an extra 2 points I get why you said that Shanes is/was in danger (even if I don't agree) but why would you replace a 2pt rider with another one and suddenly expect better results? The reason you have a 2 pointer at no7 after all is to accommodate Klindt, who gives you a huge advantage as long as he remains at Reserve. Anyway, as soon as Wolves replaced Skornicki who was a main body rider not scoring and Clegg, Greaves started to improve. So as you say, some pressure off Shanes might help him too I guess. Edited June 12, 2017 by Perton Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Shanes was in danger because of other riders scoring poorly (KK & Newman) and that's why I was saying Shanes should go because we cant have a reserve scoring 0 as well as a main body rider struggling to beat anyone other than 2nd strings and reserves. Now that we have brought in Starke for Newman I am more than happy to have James in the team We now have Starke for Newman and Starke will score 6 points a meeting in the main body therefore that would take some pressure off of James whilst before we had Newman scoring 2-3 points a meeting and Shanes scoring nothing away from home. If Shanes continues scoring 0 on the road it wouldn't be a big issue now whilst before it was due to other riders. Starke will get 6 points a meeting whilst Kyle would get 3-4 points a meeting on current form and that means there isn't as much pressure on James to beat fellow 2.00 riders as there was because Starke will be improving our 1-5 overall tally by an extra 2 points NEW POST If Klindt needs surgery (Hopefully not as I think he's a decent rider) Would this fit? KK and Klindt for Przedpelski and Gomolski You seem quite sure Starke will outscore Newman? Please give evidence as to why as his form in the top flight this season has been shocking. Nothing between Newman and Starke as riders so im interested to know why you think he will be getting 6 or 7 points a meeting for you?? Starke in the premiership.......7,5,4,3,3,4,7,0,7 Newman in the premiership.... 3,6,2,4 You think he is that much better?? Edited June 12, 2017 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 You seem quite sure Starke will outscore Newman? Please give evidence as to why as his form in the top flight this season has been shocking. Nothing between Newman and Starke as riders so im interested to know why you think he will be getting 6 or 7 points a meeting for you?? Starke in the premiership.......7,5,4,3,3,4,7,0,7 Newman in the premiership.... 3,6,2,4 You think he is that much better?? I agree about their respective ability but it is just that Newman is in such poor form currently so the change is needed now. The problem occurred because we let Kerr go as soon as Newman was available which was a mistake and now he has been snapped up elsewhere, we should have waited for Newman to get back his form first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not when KK wasn't beating Heat Leaders and Newman not beating second strings We needed Shanes to be beating the opposite No.7s due to the poor form of the riders above. I wouldn't of dropped Shanes for another 2 pointer I would of done a double change. I mentioned a couple of days ago Przedpelski and Starke for KK and Shanes Championship form. Starke has been very consistent in the Championship. Most of the riders are doubling up as Premiership 2nd strings now and Starke has been beating them in the Championship therefore he will be able to do it on current form in the Premiership Whilst Newman hasn't really done anything for Ipswich so if we kept Newman and he dropped to reserve we are taking a risk we can't afford to take as we will lose Klindt's scoring power at reserve for a struggling Newman who isn't confident at the minute and with no No.1 the team could of fell apart with no high scoring reserve and no No.1. With Starke coming in we now have a rider riding with confidence who knows our track well and was awesome at reserve when he last rode for us. If the Premiership averages never change Newman could never drop to reserve as long as Klindt is in the team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Agree 100% I would've kept Kerr and let Newman do a fair few meetings for Ippo and then bring him back. Whole thing has been a mess tbh. But MF has done the right thing loyalty cost is last season and MF won't make that mistake again How would you be allowed to do that? Kerr was an injury replacement. Once the month was up and Kyle said he was fit enough to come back you can't keep Kerr unless you sign him properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 The next signing for Poole will be the return of a another ex pirate Kacper Gomolski. They really are strengthening up to make that push for the play offs. It is very hard luck on Kyle especially as he is local and served the club very well. He may be an option up at Leicester to replace Danny Ayres but we already know from Danny King doubling up that Ipswich have some Saturday meetings coming up and some away clashes. The Lions also have more points to play with so may wait for a better option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 have total respect for matt ford as a promoter and speedway tactician however maybe as an optimist and contaray to mf's opinion i actually thought the current team could crack it at the business end of the season,kk will regain his form,him bk and ha could be near unbeatable at wimborne rd when the two legged matches kick in and with always one strong reserve and possibly holder and klindt as 2nd strings we would take some beating,anyway,all the best to kyle, be positive and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not when KK wasn't beating Heat Leaders and Newman not beating second strings We needed Shanes to be beating the opposite No.7s due to the poor form of the riders above. I wouldn't of dropped Shanes for another 2 pointer I would of done a double change. I mentioned a couple of days ago Przedpelski and Starke for KK and Shanes Championship form. Starke has been very consistent in the Championship. Most of the riders are doubling up as Premiership 2nd strings now and Starke has been beating them in the Championship therefore he will be able to do it on current form in the Premiership Whilst Newman hasn't really done anything for Ipswich so if we kept Newman and he dropped to reserve we are taking a risk we can't afford to take as we will lose Klindt's scoring power at reserve for a struggling Newman who isn't confident at the minute and with no No.1 the team could of fell apart with no high scoring reserve and no No.1. With Starke coming in we now have a rider riding with confidence who knows our track well and was awesome at reserve when he last rode for us. Championship form is totally irrelevant. Different tracks for a start. Starke was good at reserve for you .........but so again is Newman. Starke is going up into the top 5 ....a position he couldnt handle this season already. I dont see Starke as someone who is going to give you a lot more than what Newman is doing right now, around 4-7 points a meeting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Who would Gomolski come in for? Replacement for Klindt or Holder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimli27 Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Skidder perhaps I didn't phrase my thoughts properly when I said unfortunately about Matt making changes I should have said unfortunately for Kyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 Who would Gomolski come in for? Replacement for Klindt or Holder?Don't want to annoy another Holder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 The next signing for Poole will be the return of a another ex pirate Kacper Gomolski. They really are strengthening up to make that push for the play offs. It is very hard luck on Kyle especially as he is local and served the club very well. He may be an option up at Leicester to replace Danny Ayres but we already know from Danny King doubling up that Ipswich have some Saturday meetings coming up and some away clashes. The Lions also have more points to play with so may wait for a better option Who would Gomolski be replacing???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 your point is what?? He has had a bad injury and lack of track time means he is scoring low and probably lacking in confidence. Matt Ford doesnt have the patience to see if he can turn it around, which has always been the case and is part of the reason Poole have been successful. But with Klindt out looking long term and Holder now injured things are getting tricky An injury caused by a rubbishe track at where was it, oh yes Poole. So another fast track reserve dropped when in the top 5. What a great success that scheme was. The rule is only if a team redeclares ie makes more than one change at once. 'Like for like' changes are acceptable at any time within the team points total except after 31st July!! However it will be interesting to see whether Starke comes in on his 5.62 average or his 4H/4A average of 4.12?? Got to be 4.12 if Rohan is allowed in on a 5 point average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted June 12, 2017 Report Share Posted June 12, 2017 no wonder people walk away from speedway kyle was has good as any of the other two riders mention a lot will not be happy with this lets hope kyle comes back and bites matt bum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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