g13webb Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) It's theft from whoever paid for the rights to screen whatever it is you are watching. Which in turn means it's ultimately theft from the sports body, movie studio etc. It's not taking a moral high ground - i havent passed any judgement here - to call it theft, it's staying a fact. No different to watching a pirated dvd, illegally downloading music etc. Long term the question is who funds movies for example, if noone pays to watch them? Already in the music industry we see artists making moat of their money ftom touring, because music sales have dramatically decreased - and not because less people are listening to music. Technically you could be right, but not all broadcasts are pay to view, so watching them on a streaming box is committing no offence. Each year we spent 2/3 months in Spain during the winter period. Because of the poor television stations at the villa, I investigated the option of a small TV box, solely for the wife to keep abreast with the various soap she follows. We were amazed at the capability of these boxes, and realised we could have a far bigger selection than we ever had before. Tuning in to NBC in America, on Saturday afternoon we had the choice of watching any live match anywhere, be it in UK, Germany, Holland Spain , the choice was endless. At that time I was paying Sky silly money, but never had these options. BBC and ITV are transmitted all over the world on the internet these days and nobody has to pay a dine. They finance it all through advertising and franchise. You will see thousands of companies from all corners of the globe doing the same thing. SKY and BT are just money making enterprises. with no moral concern only to rip people off. Had the cost stayed at an affordable level then probably more people would continue with their subscription. These boxes offer me the opportunity to watch events I would never be able to see. Sunday I watch Poland, Tuesday its Sweden, Wednesday usually Denmark, all speedway action, and not one of those are transmitted on Sky , Moto-cross, and Super Cars are other enjoyments of mine, and through this box I can see them all. . I am not a thief, and always pay my way. I paid Nat Ins and taxes all my life I have no problem using these boxes. If Sky stopped transmitting on the net I would still use this box in preference to their high monthly charge. Before long every house hold will be using these boxes..... Edited January 23, 2017 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'd say there are two categories bere: Items that you cannot easily pay to view within your country of residence (e.g. polish speedway) I see no issue. But for British speedway, GPs, movies etc. I struggle to see any argument as to how this is not theft. Of course sky and BT are money making entities. All businesses are. But it's like saying bp are a money making entity who charge too much so I won't pay for my petrol if I can get away with it. I'm not passing judgement here on uses of boxes, nor denying that I have ever viewed things which have not been paid for, but I'm honest enough to know that doing do IS theft in many instances. as I explained earlier my use of words 'goes with the territory' was a point to say that in Poole they condone rule breaking a la Matt Ford and Pooles record in the past.But why the compulsive need to link a totally unrelated item (use of illegal streams) back to Poole speedway? That's why you can irritate people, because almost every topic you manage to turn into a dig at poole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 But why the compulsive need to link a totally unrelated item (use of illegal streams) back to Poole speedway? That's why you can irritate people, because almost every topic you manage to turn into a dig at poole. Because he made it clear from day one for whatever reason he doesn't like us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Because he made it clear from day one for whatever reason he doesn't like us.go back over the thread. Shovlar said he streamed it in What utter nonsense. So you are saying no one should watch Polish speedway in this country unless they splash out on a motorised dish then try and trace where they can buy a legit card? I must be a right criminal as I watch the 3 pm Saturday football kickoffs as well. Guess the old bill will smash my door down in a dawn raid. Think I can safely sleep in my bed without that happening. You stick to your morally high ground and leave watching the Polish speedway on Sunday afternoon to me. there is his post to say he also watches the football to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I'd say there are two categories bere: Items that you cannot easily pay to view within your country of residence (e.g. polish speedway) I see no issue. But for British speedway, GPs, movies etc. I struggle to see any argument as to how this is not theft. Of course sky and BT are money making entities. All businesses are. But it's like saying bp are a money making entity who charge too much so I won't pay for my petrol if I can get away with it. I'm not passing judgement here on uses of boxes, nor denying that I have ever viewed things which have not been paid for, but I'm honest enough to know that doing do IS theft in many instances. But why the compulsive need to link a totally unrelated item (use of illegal streams) back to Poole speedway? That's why you can irritate people, because almost every topic you manage to turn into a dig at poole. I have no axe to grind with you or others on this issue of TV boxes. Everybody are entitled to their opinion. Any moral responsibility I may have had, disappeared when it was pointed out to me that these companies use the net for cheap streaming of programs all over the world knowing that the more countries see their products the more they charge for advertising. They do this hoping counties will be watching their programs... I don't see the two issues here, either it's wrong or it's not. You agree we can watch Polish speedway on the box but can't watch the SGP transmitted through polish TV. I find that strange!!!! Also, If you wanted to watch new movies on release, the box fails on the quality of poor recording, but waiting a few months and the movie is posted professionally and can be seen in vivid HD reception. Any monies that changes hands do so in the first months, after than its old news and the appeal has gone. On the box you have the full library of all the films dating back years. The box gives you the opportunity to watch films you would not normally be able to see, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I have no axe to grind with you or others on this issue of TV boxes. Everybody are entitled to their opinion. Any moral responsibility I may have had, disappeared when it was pointed out to me that these companies use the net for cheap streaming of programs all over the world knowing that the more countries see their products the more they charge for advertising. They do this hoping counties will be watching their programs... I don't see the two issues here, either it's wrong or it's not. You agree we can watch Polish speedway on the box but can't watch the SGP transmitted through polish TV. I find that strange!!!! Also, If you wanted to watch new movies on release, the box fails on the quality of poor recording, but waiting a few months and the movie is posted professionally and can be seen in vivid HD reception. Any monies that changes hands do so in the first months, after than its old news and the appeal has gone. On the box you have the full library of all the films dating back years. The box gives you the opportunity to watch films you would not normally be able to see, People could of course watch the sgp on youtube by simply downloading a free vpn from the app store, chosing a server in the usa, log into youtube and watch no problem, using chromecast to watch it on tv in hd. Simple. I use vpn all the time as all music content blocked inthe uk but available in other countries suddenly becomes available to me. As for the Saturday 3pm kickoffs, they are in hd, and no I am not ripping off any uk company as they don't broadcast them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Can you guys set up your own technology thread please and return this to 'Poole 2017'. Edited January 24, 2017 by Pirate Baz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Can you guys set up your own technology thread please and return this to 'Poole 2017'. Sorry!! I didn't think there was much news to see at the moment..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Don't you just love it when the 'content police' turn up and try to stop a civilized conversation. Made a refreshing change from the Gavan/Starman love in i thought.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Also, If you wanted to watch new movies on release, the box fails on the quality of poor recording, but waiting a few months and the movie is posted professionally and can be seen in vivid HD reception. Any monies that changes hands do so in the first months, after than its old news and the appeal has gone. On the box you have the full library of all the films dating back years. The box gives you the opportunity to watch films you would not normally be able to see, Would that be around the time the DVD is released ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 On Good Friday when we are home and away against Somerset, are away in the morning and home in the evening? Have I read that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 On Good Friday when we are home and away against Somerset, are away in the morning and home in the evening? Have I read that right? Funny, i thought we were the morning kick off and Somerset in the evening.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Funny, i thought we were the morning kick off and Somerset in the evening..On the Poole site it has Somerset vs Poole and then Poole vs Somerset in that order, but no times of the meetings were given, that's why i was questioning it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Funny, i thought we were the morning kick off and Somerset in the evening.. That is what the Somerset and bspa website show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Its Poole at 1100 am and Somerset in the evening if you look at the actual Poole fixture list rather than the news release!! Edited January 24, 2017 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Its Poole at 1100 am and Somerset in the evening if you look at the actual Poole fixture list rather than the news release!!Bit bizarre to put them in a different order then! Same website after all! Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Bit bizarre to put them in a different order then! Same website after all! Lol. Can we date each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Bit bizarre to put them in a different order then! Same website after all! Lol.we are talking about speedway here as clear as mud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 On the Poole site it has Somerset vs Poole and then Poole vs Somerset in that order, but no times of the meetings were given, that's why i was questioning it! And you was right to.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Really looking forward to Good Friday. If the weather is decent we can expect two monster crowds. Somerset fans will pour into Dorset for the chance to see their team ride against the biggest club in British speedway, and I should imagine we could have hundreds of Poole fans heading the other way for the evening meeting. Could be one of the biggest crowds Somerset have ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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