foreverblue Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 If people bother to read the full announcement then they'll know some of the reasons why Brady over Kacper!! With the leagues currently going for a lower level whilst continuing to save costs, MF is continuing his longer term planning to bring through Jack, Brady and Kyle for the future, whilst at the same time hopefully building a team that will compete in 2017. I appreciate the reasons and Matt ford obviously feels there is a lot more to come from Brady but i also feel although not a club asset Adam Ellis wasn't given too much consideration either and he has at least as much potential for improvement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 I believe the experience Brady got last year will really benefit him this year he can improve very surprised some people have written him off.Jack H is a decent long term investment he will be a top rider in the future.People expect too much from Brady, especially what was put in the press before the start of last season. Riders improve dramatically in different stages in their career, look at Jason Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Which is why favouring riders that spend the whole season UK-based is part of the longer term plan!! Not very long term when people won't turn up to pay for it, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Everybody seemed to think Brady was going to be the new Darcy, which is way too much to expect.Time will tell how far BK will go, but next season should be better for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Maybe but Ellis isn't an asset and Kyle has been named as a future Pirates captain by MF!! Which is why favouring riders that spend the whole season UK-based is part of the longer term plan!! But as you Poole fans say Matt Ford will do what is right by Poole. If Newman improves his average by some way then he will be shown the door next season if his average doesnt fit. As Matt Ford has stated economically Kurtz over Gomolski was a no brainer. Young Holder is going to the top in the sport. I have no doubt about it. Has made good progression year upon year. Going to be third heat leader no problem. With Klindt at reserve his gating alone should bring in a stack of points moving hi nto the team. The good news is that if he does struggle, Kyle will be at reserve and Klindt would then only get three rides with Kyle getting 5 or more if he replaces Shanes in one ride. Poole will always have a strong reserve. Young Holder could have a good future but to say he will be a third heat leader no problem is possibly over stretching it. Brady last season was supposed to be pulling up trees but ended up at reserve at times. To much pressure being put on Holder already by the Poole fans. And if Klindt moves up and Kyle goes to reserve then that can make Poole weaker as you wouldnt expect Klindt to score well in the top 5. For example if Klindt gets 10 from 5 at reserve and Newman 6 from 4 riding at number 4 , then thats 16 from those 2 riders. Kyle would still get 10 from 5 but Klindt i wouldnt expect to score more than Kyle at number 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Jack can handle the pressure no worries about that, if he isn't Panthers number one by the end of april i will be very surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Brady and Jack I don't think will achieve what Chris and Darcy have. I guess time will tell. Brady did a decent job in his 1st full top flight season but went missing like the majority of the 1-5 in the play offs. I can't see much improvement on that starting average. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well i am very happy with our 1-7. The boys will be getting my full support and backing. KK - No brainer. Doyle wouldnt even touch him around Poole Newman - Improving year on year again no brainer Kurtz - Will be better than this year. A full top flight season under his belt. Future of Poole speedway with Jack. J. Holder - He is going places will be a Pirate for many years to come. Hans - Format will suit him right down to ground. Easier races and can ride all sorts of tracks Klindt - Bargain of the season. Shanes - No pressure just give it your best shot young man. not if doyley gets to the first corner in front Jason one of the fastest gaters in the game kk won't catch him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 So its BK what a surprise to say I don't really entertain the idea then I think you all know that, must admit think Gomolski should have been given the nod, and when has Speedway ever been about the future its always been about the here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well i am very happy with our 1-7. The boys will be getting my full support and backing. KK - No brainer. Doyle wouldnt even touch him around Poole Newman - Improving year on year again no brainer Kurtz - Will be better than this year. A full top flight season under his belt. Future of Poole speedway with Jack. J. Holder - He is going places will be a Pirate for many years to come. Hans - Format will suit him right down to ground. Easier races and can ride all sorts of tracks Klindt - Bargain of the season. Shanes - No pressure just give it your best shot young man. Newman improving really? Klindt if he does not gate he won't be easily beating the likes of Bates,Clegg (ect) Bargain jury out on that one just glad we didn't sign him reminds me of FinnJensen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Newman improving really? Klindt if he does not gate he won't be easily beating the likes of Bates,Clegg (ect) Bargain jury out on that one just glad we didn't sign him reminds me of FinnJensen.And I'm glad we don't have half of your team!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well i am very happy with our 1-7. The boys will be getting my full support and backing. KK - No brainer. Doyle wouldnt even touch him around Poole Newman - Improving year on year again no brainer Kurtz - Will be better than this year. A full top flight season under his belt. Future of Poole speedway with Jack. J. Holder - He is going places will be a Pirate for many years to come. Hans - Format will suit him right down to ground. Easier races and can ride all sorts of tracks Klindt - Bargain of the season. Shanes - No pressure just give it your best shot young man. KK - wont see which way Doyle goes if Doyle leads him Newman - hasnt improved at all while at Poole as his average and the fact he has been at reserve prove. But a trier and would be in my team Kurtz- let Poole down hugely last season dropping to reserve. Needs to improve. Holder - could improve just like Ellis did.........but will get released like Ellis if his average doesnt fit Hans - in decline as you would expect at his age but solid enough Klindt - ridiculed by Poole fans........now the bargain of the season as he is a Pirate. Shanes - any points he gets will be a bonus. You can easily look at the Poole teams both ways but the way some Poole fans 'big' it up i just wonder if they will choke like last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Maybe give Wolves some credit Gavan, they just rode better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 dont forget this is not the elite league, it is a beefed up premier league now, look at the teams as last years premier standard, and i reckon my money would be on the pirates, a good solid 1-6, youth and experience, a perfect balance. think you are the team to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 So the BSPA members ie the promoters are often criticised for not having a plan and for thinking too much about the now rather than 2-3-4 years hence?! As soon as one (MF) openly states he is planning for the future, its suddenly all wrong!! If anything its the fans that are only mainly concerned about the coming season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Maybe give Wolves some credit Gavan, they just rode better. They did and ive given Wolves credit on their page......answering those who said Poole only lost because of Tai and injuries to Poole riders. The fact was that all last season Poole were favourites all the way through and didnt win. They choked or bottled it as many of their riders went missing and funnily enough one who didnt (Ellis) has been moved on in favour or foreigners. Quite rightly Matt Ford will pick the best 7 he sees fit hence no room for sentiment (Holder) which is why i find it quite funny to read things like 'Newman is a future captain' and 'Brady and Jack are the future of Poole'. If the averages dont fit Matt Ford will have no issue letting them go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyfan Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 They did and ive given Wolves credit on their page......answering those who said Poole only lost because of Tai and injuries to Poole riders. The fact was that all last season Poole were favourites all the way through and didnt win. They choked or bottled it as many of their riders went missing and funnily enough one who didnt (Ellis) has been moved on in favour or foreigners. Quite rightly Matt Ford will pick the best 7 he sees fit hence no room for sentiment (Holder) which is why i find it quite funny to read things like 'Newman is a future captain' and 'Brady and Jack are the future of Poole'. If the averages dont fit Matt Ford will have no issue letting them go. Don't see how you can say Poole bottled it at Wolves when 2 of their top three were missing against a full strength Wolves team.What would the result have been if Wolves had been missing Woffinden and Thorsell and Poole had been at full strength?? Would you keep telling us Wolves bottled it?? No of course you wouldn't, you would say injuries to two of their top three cost them a place in the final, just as the Pirates fans have said. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) KK - wont see which way Doyle goes if Doyle leads him Newman - hasnt improved at all while at Poole as his average and the fact he has been at reserve prove. But a trier and would be in my team Kurtz- let Poole down hugely last season dropping to reserve. Needs to improve. Holder - could improve just like Ellis did.........but will get released like Ellis if his average doesnt fit Hans - in decline as you would expect at his age but solid enough Klindt - ridiculed by Poole fans........now the bargain of the season as he is a Pirate. Shanes - any points he gets will be a bonus. You can easily look at the Poole teams both ways but the way some Poole fans 'big' it up i just wonder if they will choke like last season I disagree with you about KK. He rode all the lines and made plenty of passing when he rides around Poole. He is nigh on unbeatable when he is in the mood. With no GPs as a distraction, he should see off Doyle. I look forward to those battles With regards to Jack being dropped if his average doesn't fit, I also disagree to an extent. If he proves his worth and goes on to be the top rider he could be, I don't think this would necessarily be the case. True heat leaders are drying up, whether they will not come ride in Britain, or simply they are now getting old and retiring. Harris,nicholls, Chris Holder, Hans Andersen, Doyle, KK are not getting any younger, they will decline and start to fade out. If Jack becomes the next in line with Brady, they will have alot of years ahead of them to lead the team. Edited December 21, 2016 by Jason.C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 planning for the future does not work in speedway Matt ford always planning for the future how can you run speedway on averages if the new turbo twins as there so called average anything over 8 either one or both of them will be gone that's how it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason.C Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Not entirely correct, we kept hold of Darcy & Chris for a number of seasons, whilst also being able to invite back magic & kk at times. The only time Chris & Darcy didn't ride together is when Chris decided to skip the UK after his injuries, but still filled in at the start of that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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