SUPERACE Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) BV have a very good team that can be dangerous away but there's no reason why we can't go to the NSS and take them close there too. Didn't we only lose by a few points on one of our visits there this season? Without Tai....Id agree with that, tai makes you stronger at BV since your last visit, but the Aces are now much stronger at home since then also. The Aces Heat leaders got 12 between them last time we met and all 3 are flying right now so that should/coukd be at least doubled.I could see this being very close right across the 30 heats. Edited September 29, 2016 by SUPERACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Even I'm tempted to make the trip up to Manchester for the 2nd leg. The final looks like it will be a cracking one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkafag Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 I think Wolves will win it with a bit to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKYLANE Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 A great final is set up over the two legs.  As with last year's final , both teams are capable of winning the title.... form books don't count..... just doing the business over the two days  I make Belle Vue slight favourites and hope that I am right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) Â Â Please with this thread and BVs home leg thread, can the bickering and name calling cease, as was evident when Poole were involved, I think the moderators should have temporarily banned a few posters. Â Â This thread will be much friendlier that's obvious. Anyway looking forward to the final,should be 2 cracking meetings and i can't call the winner.Two pretty evenly matched teams in my eyes.Would like to see Belle Vue win it as to me they have done it all season and finished top of the league,and with the same 1-7. Incidentally when was the last time a team used the same 1-7 and won the league?Anyone know Edited September 29, 2016 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiveusaB Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Cant wait and I'm a neutral : ) I'm backing BV to win both legs by 4/8 points! I think Zagar will have to put in a performance at Monmore though! His style reminds me very much of Ermolenko when he's in front too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krompa Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 This looks to be a classic. Golden heats after 90-90 on aggregate? No R/R please, no guests. Just speedway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Wolves league team no problem but Wolves play off team is causing me to worry a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Wolves league team no problem but Wolves play off team is causing me to worry a little. Its a play off final, i'd expect all fans of both teams are nervous. I dont think you will find one Aces or wolves fan who is totally convinced there team will win. All i know as an Aces fan is we have a superb team who can beat anyone home or away and all 7 riders are bang in form, couldn't ask for more going into a final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Really looking forward to my first visit to the NSS and what better occasion than a Play Off Final. Â These teams are so equally matched. Â Remember, the only difference between them in the table is the Belle Vue away win at Wolves. A Wolves in in that meeting and they would have been top... that was the night Kylmakorpi scored 0 0 0 in his last match. Â Belle Vue riders can all ride the Wolves track very well, they haven't got several riders like Poole who struggle. As has been mentioned above, the Aces are more dialled in on their home track now, I think the three home meetings in the space of a week or so helped greatly with that. Â Whatever happens, let's hope for some great racing, big crowds and fantastic atmosphere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudflaps Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 am just pleased that the cheating Matt Fraud and his Poole manipulators are no longer in the Play offs.. Â Should be a cracking team between the best two teams in the league... May the best team win - should be a corker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Wolves will need to build up a decent lead to take to BV and as we saw last night 12 wasn't enough for Poole. Wolves will win their home leg and BV will win theirs - it will be close on aggregate but I think BV will do it as their reserves are stronger. Can see it being close at both venues. Belle Vue has held us tight in both meetings at Monmore winning the B comfortably. A 12 point 1st leg lead would be a miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Can see it being close at both venues. Belle Vue has held us tight in both meetings at Monmore winning the B comfortably. A 12 point 1st leg lead would be a miracle. Before your post I was thinking Wolves by 4 or less at Monmore, BV by 4 or less at the NSS If we thought last night was a bicycle clips job, this will be worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Before your post I was thinking Wolves by 4 or less at Monmore, BV by 4 or less at the NSS If we thought last night was a bicycle clips job, this will be worse Agreed. Could be a classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hope they get some decent refs in for this, as a dodgy decision could decide it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABS Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Great thing for the fans is that BV go well at Wolverhampton and Wolves go well at BV. Should be two very closely contested meetings and for those watching on Sky, we might need Kelvin and Nigel to control their breathing to avoid hyperventilating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Hope they get some decent refs in for this, as a dodgy decision could decide it! Both our meetings had dodgy decisions I think you mean. Not just last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Both our meetings had dodgy decisions I think you mean. Not just last night. I didn't mention last night! Just as it is likely to be close a wrong exclusion could decide who is champions. Tbh Zagar leaving the track again could decide it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 I didn't mention last night! Just as it is likely to be close a wrong exclusion could decide who is champions. Tbh Zagar leaving the track again could decide it! Let's face it if riders adhere to the rules we could cut out some dodgy refereeing decisions. Interpretation of the rule will always be a contentious issue as we all see both sides of an argument however the ref will always have an influence on a meeting but it's ultimately down to the riders for putting themselves in that position! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) That's the beauty of the qualifier and cup format. Â Incidents that usually balance out over the course of a season but decide individual meetings can mean the best team misses out. Belle Vue won at wolves because Adams pissed kylmakorpi off by telling him he was sacked before the meeting, Adams knew it wouldn't matter though as it was only a qualifier. Â Even wolves massive home advantage can be undone by a freak incident so anything can and probably will happen next Monday. I hope wolves get a full house, 2500 isn't much to shout about but a full house certainly is. With the track prepared as it was last night, yep. As it's normally prepared nowhere near as much and on occasions, none. Years ago there was a significant advantage consistently., Edited September 29, 2016 by Wolfsbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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