What Would You Like From The Agm

[Trees]

Poland have the riders by the short and curlies .... I hope when things aren't so good over there that the other leagues remember this rule! Selfish indeed!

[A ORLOV]

Poland have the riders by the short and curlies .... I hope when things aren't so good over there that the other leagues remember this rule! Selfish indeed!

And if they want to ride over here they cannot get a work visa.

Edited October 2, 2016 by A ORLOV

[AlanF]

 

Here is my radical idea for 2017, and it presumes we remain with an Elite League of 8 and a PL of 13.

 

All teams are built to PL standards, or a slightly higher number if the PL teams are comfortable with it. Each Elite League team nominates one "designated" rider in addition. For example, Wolves may nominate Tai Woffinden etc.

 

All teams in both divisions ride all other teams in both leagues, home and away. This gives 20 home and 20 away meetings.

 

For each meeting between two EL teams, the teams may replace any rider from their team with their designated rider. So again using Wolves as an example, versus Poole they would replace Clegg with Woffinden.

 

This system would allow the spectators to get their weekly speedway fix, and allow the riders who want to keep busy 40 league meetings a year. It would also allow the "superstars" to ride a 14 meeting season which would allow more of them to commit to the UK.

 

I don't know how practical it is, but I think it is an interesting concept. I also think that this format would bring a workable promotion and relegation system closer.

Edited October 2, 2016 by AlanF

[SteveLyric2]

...and would you charge more for the EL v EL fixtures?

[AlanF]

...and would you charge more for the EL v EL fixtures?

I would think the price point would be higher for those meetings.

[STEPHEN 333]

Squad system to be re-introduced, like as in Poland and Sweden, gives a chance to see the younger riders to race against the top riders,

 

Return of the Young England internationals, Series to include return matches in other countries, like we back in the Seventies, gives the chance of the likes of Robert Lambert and Craig Cook and the Worrall twins to impress abroad in Poland and Sweden.

 

Give Woffy the chance to take the younger riders abroad with him to see how the Poles and Swedes and Danes do their training with the under 21's.

[E I Addio]

That would be starting point for transparency for BSPA to let the fans know where and when the AGM is actually taking place.

However they are probably worried the fans will stage a demonstration..... Now there's an idea!

When the BSPA held a fans forum earlier this year, a mere 50'or so turned up. That just about shows how much the moaners are really interested when it comes down to leaving their keyboards. You really believe a mass demo woukd happen ?

 

A lot of speedways problems are very little to do with the AGM itself, they are more to do with failure to properly implement whatever rules are made, and back door rule changes half way through the season, of which the signing of Lindback on a 7 is a prime example.

[Crazy robin]

Squad system to be re-introduced, like as in Poland and Sweden, gives a chance to see the younger riders to race against the top riders,

 

Return of the Young England internationals, Series to include return matches in other countries, like we back in the Seventies, gives the chance of the likes of Robert Lambert and Craig Cook and the Worrall twins to impress abroad in Poland and Sweden.

 

Give Woffy the chance to take the younger riders abroad with him to see how the Poles and Swedes and Danes do their training with the under 21's.

Woofy help British youngsters, you're having a laugh as he isn't interested in that.

[Jonny the spud]

Promoters to think "hang on a minute, we've got some great English talent coming through. Let's channel some of the sponsorship we throw at average foreigners towards our boys instead"

 

Or is that too radical an idea ?

[scottyfan]

Poole banned forever

Yeah why not......a 7 team EL sounds good!!

[Aces51]

Promoters to think "hang on a minute, we've got some great English talent coming through. Let's channel some of the sponsorship we throw at average foreigners towards our boys instead"

 

Or is that too radical an idea ?

 

They can't really complain if they choose to ride for teams that seem to have a history of preferring foreigners. Perhaps those young riders need to vote with their feet and try to get places at teams that support British riders not only by having a majority of Brits in their EL teams but by running NL teams as well. Perhaps then the others might be encouraged to change their policy.

Edited October 2, 2016 by Aces51

[Ghostwalker]

A fixed average conversion system similar to what Svemo uses.

Each foreign league gets a fixed value based on the strength compared

to the British league. Then each new foreign rider gets their home league

average translated to a British average based on the leagues strength value.

[waiheke1]

A fixed average conversion system similar to what Svemo uses.

Each foreign league gets a fixed value based on the strength compared

to the British league. Then each new foreign rider gets their home league

average translated to a British average based on the leagues strength value.

Exactly this. No reason this shouldn't be used.

No way those things would come true anytime mate... I have more chance of riding next years Grand national winner than winning the euromillions.

Except of course one team did achieve all those things this season didn't they?

Though unfortunately it seems - according to rumours, though ones which seem to have substance -the club are having issues paying riders. Hopefully the play off final should help alleviate those. And hopefully it's a cash flow issue as a result of the Peter craven call off, which I guess cost aces 150kish, rather than an issue showing flaws in the overall business plan and budgets.

[Daniel Smith]

A fixed average conversion system similar to what Svemo uses.

Each foreign league gets a fixed value based on the strength compared

to the British league. Then each new foreign rider gets their home league

average translated to a British average based on the leagues strength value.

 

Setting averages based on the supposed "strength" is as false as any other average system.

 

If a rider is hitting 9 average in Ekstraliga or Elitserien doesn't mean they'll do the same in the Elite League.

In fact, more often than not most rider's averages decrease due to how technical the track are here in the UK.

[Guest GiveusaB]

Better referees!!!

[Crazy robin]

Promoters to think "hang on a minute, we've got some great English talent coming through. Let's channel some of the sponsorship we throw at average foreigners towards our boys instead"

 

Or is that too radical an idea ?

Could also expect young riders to return the loyalty shown by the club they are an asset of rather than wanting to ride elsewhere.

 

It works both ways.

[Bryn]

Better referees!!!

 

Are you volunteering to be one then?

[MrMungo]

- BSPA to create a role for someone knowledgeable and experienced to supervise track preparation. (Some places really need it!)

- Drink/drugs tests before every single meeting (and don't allow a team mate to take it instead!)

- Youth GB sides (U23, U21, U16?) to take part in (test) matches on the continent on a semi-regular basis.

- Riders can not be sacked from a side if they have increased their starting average, ie only riders not 'performing' can get the sack.

- Set race nights for EL/PL or League 1/2, thus limiting the need for facilities (guests/RR)

[waiheke1]

 

Setting averages based on the supposed "strength" is as false as any other average system.

 

If a rider is hitting 9 average in Ekstraliga or Elitserien doesn't mean they'll do the same in the Elite League.

In fact, more often than not most rider's averages decrease due to how technical the track are here in the UK.

Really? I disagree. Care to share any facts to support this?

[Little Thumper]

British riders for British teams.