heathen chemistry Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 TRANSPARENCY............. us fans would like to know what promoters voted for what, and who has drafted any new rules and who seconded them and voted for them name and shame !!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theboss Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) When is the bspa AGM. When do we find out as supporters the new formats rule changes etc....That would be starting point for transparency for BSPA to let the fans know where and when the AGM is actually taking place. However they are probably worried the fans will stage a demonstration..... Now there's an idea! Edited October 1, 2016 by jchapman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Still waiting to see evidence of Buster with his New Broom..... He has a massive job to do.. But don't know if he will be allowed the opportunity to change things.. John Berry stated 30 odd yrs ago the sport is run on a 'I'll scratch your back' philosophy with no relevance to the sport at all. I haven't seen much change since then. Just hope the other promoters will back Buster in the hope our league can prosper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Surely the "new broom" has been being prepared all season? He's had a year of hands on experience and no doubt been preparing a big list of common sense changes. This years AGM should be a breeze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Stable team, regular race night, well prepared track, clean facilities, well run meetings, £15 admission. Completely agree Good tracks (because a lot of them most certainly aren't), no unnecessary delay (which means no intervals), good presentation and stop the cheating and rule bending by transparency and responsibility. I am not sure that will work, but its what most current fans want. I would like more promoters to be more like Matt Ford - Promoting speedway and creating competitive teams - and no I am not a Poole supporter in terms of it being my local team - but I do wish more teams had promoters like him. More like Isle of Wight's Barry Bishop and Martin Widman than Matt Ford. If Poole had won the EL this season, people would have left the sport because of the disgraceful circumstances surrounding the signing of Antonio Lindback. The BSPA are culpable, but Ford will pull tricks that go beyond what most will accept. I don't deny his success in promoting the club and putting out good teams, but do we really want them all to be as ruthless as that ? Bishop and Widman (backed by a small but totally dedicated band of supporters) have worked unbelievably hard to make Isle of Wight speedway a paying concern. They have done everything that people on here suggest (and more) and they have done it without the taint of cheating. By far and away my promotion of the year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 A promotion that could deliver an improved customer experience with a clean environment and excellent viewing. Provide a superb race strip that has magnificent racing. Work hard to minimise annoying rain offs. Build an entertaining successful team with up and come Brits and a GP star. Work with other speedway organisations to bring big world events to us deserving supporters. Increase crowd levels by over 100% I could go on with my list of dreams, maybe a training centre to help find the next UK champ, but in this day an age and the state current of speedway - no chance, surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 . Increase crowd levels by over 100% I could go on with my list of dreams, maybe a training centre to help find the next UK champ, but in this day an age and the state current of speedway - no chance, surely. I went to a meeting over bank holiday weekend at Isle of Wight in the last season of operation under the old promotion in 2013 and I thought there were about 300 people there. I went to two meetings this season in August and there were 5-600 at both. It just shows what a determined, customer focussed and capable promotion can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 What are the other sports where the 'Directors' of all the clubs share all the information from their annual meeting with the fans?! Just wondering........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 A promotion that could deliver an improved customer experience with a clean environment and excellent viewing. Provide a superb race strip that has magnificent racing. Work hard to minimise annoying rain offs. Build an entertaining successful team with up and come Brits and a GP star. Work with other speedway organisations to bring big world events to us deserving supporters. Increase crowd levels by over 100% I could go on with my list of dreams, maybe a training centre to help find the next UK champ, but in this day an age and the state current of speedway - no chance, surely. Im to take it your referring to your own club here. Clearly you've forgot this is 2016 not 1970. People have far more things to do nowadays. In the meantime should you win the euromillions you will be financing the less fortunate clubs then.. You live in a fantasy world mate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Im to take it your referring to your own club here. Clearly you've forgot this is 2016 not 1970. People have far more things to do nowadays. In the meantime should you win the euromillions you will be financing the less fortunate clubs then.. You live in a fantasy world mate...Yeah no way those things could come true in 2016 is there starry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Yeah no way those things could come true in 2016 is there starry... No way those things would come true anytime mate... I have more chance of riding next years Grand national winner than winning the euromillions. And as I said, people have far more to do nowadays. Unless you reduce the admission charge down to a tenner. Speedway costs a lot of money to put on, that's without the big boys.. So that ain't going to happen either... At poole we do plenty of promoting the sport and we get the biggest crowds in the EL by a mile we also have a lot of very good sponsors that put a lot of money into the club, we also have two premier league football clubs in a 30 ml radius. AFC Bournemouth and that lot 20ml further up the road. Edited October 1, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) I would like to see an audience of knowledgeable,honest, unbiased and intellectual speedway fans in a room or hall with the AGM after proposals have been put forward in a 'Question Time' scenario where honest questions are asked about this rule and so forth and even feedback to be given to amend the proposals. Edited October 1, 2016 by Joe Beevers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I would like to see an audience of knowledgeable,honest, unbiased and intellectual speedway fans in a room or hall with the AGM after proposals have been put forward in a 'Question Time' scenario where honest questions are asked about this rule and so forth and even feedback to be given to amend the proposals.Joe you have more chance of walking on the moon than that ever happening good idea though making Speedway a 10 pound sport might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 No way those things would come true anytime mate... I have more chance of riding next years Grand national winner than winning the euromillions. And as I said, people have far more to do nowadays. Unless you reduce the admission charge down to a tenner. Speedway costs a lot of money to put on, that's without the big boys.. So that ain't going to happen either... At poole we do plenty of promoting the sport and we get the biggest crowds in the EL by a mile we also have a lot of very good sponsors that put a lot of money into the club, we also have two premier league football clubs in a 30 ml radius. AFC Bournemouth and that lot 20ml further up the road. Football runs for 6 of the months that there is no speedway so not much of a challenge to speedway there. Totally agree that it's a £10 sport or a child in education goes free with a paying adult. Clubs need to look at the younger supporters &!they will go with a parent or the average age will only increase. Run the sport in the summer months especially during school holidays as most clubs had 1 or possibly 2 in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Fairness on all sides! Not much hope of that after the play-offs & one side's stack of assets to cloud the promoter's judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal hammer Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 IMO the important thing is to make sure the 4 riders in each heat are of similar standard, racing on more consistent track surfaces. This makes for good, close and exciting racing. The racing has to be good as the foundation from which you can build and promote. To achieve that I think it's vital for the current league tier structure to stay in place. I personally feel there should be more top flight fixtures not less. This will more than likely result in many of the GP riders departing our domestic league scene. Initially, more PL riders will be needed to fill EL team spots and more NL riders should be offered PL spots. Weakening the top end strength of each of the three leagues now is needed in order for our domestic scene to survive. It may tempt another 1 or 2 current PL clubs to try the top tier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 The AGM is an annual get together by a bunch of people who run the sport. The sport would be dead on it's kness if it was not for the fand turning up and paying thier money. So I should think that when they hold the AGM, That from the clubs that make up the EL, they should be made to allow 10 people who go to watch the sport and pay to keep them in business to go to the meeting, sit and listen to them waffle on and on for 2 days and chage very little at the end of it. to be able when all the pointless nonsense is over and done with, to have thier say, to let them know just where they are going wrong. Not that they would listen, but at least they would make it plain that they actually realise that without the fans then the whole show, would grind to a halt in a matter of a few meetings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Blachshadow Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Fairness on all sides! Not much hope of that after the play-offs & one side's stack of assets to cloud the promoter's judgement. Which could be cut back tremendously if the Polish thought of Polish and one other league only comes into being. Edited October 1, 2016 by Vincent Blackshadow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perton Wolf Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Poole banned forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 The AGM is an annual get together by a bunch of people who run the sport. The sport would be dead on it's kness if it was not for the fand turning up and paying thier money. So I should think that when they hold the AGM, That from the clubs that make up the EL, they should be made to allow 10 people who go to watch the sport and pay to keep them in business to go to the meeting, sit and listen to them waffle on and on for 2 days and chage very little at the end of it. to be able when all the pointless nonsense is over and done with, to have thier say, to let them know just where they are going wrong. Not that they would listen, but at least they would make it plain that they actually realise that without the fans then the whole show, would grind to a halt in a matter of a few meetings/ I think that it must be realised that even with the fans contribution without a number of members of the BSPA putting their hands in their pockets every week many (if not most) tracks would still close. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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