Sheffield 2017

[MrMungo]

So the creditors report must be untrue because I trust newman implicitly,Ipswich have got them selfs a belting rider there.

Riders are definitely still owed money.

However, that money is to be paid by BSPA (when they get around to it).

Kurtz and the rest of the Plymouth side were getting paid this season. It was merely happening slower and slower as the season went on, which is usually a bad sign.

[The Third Man]

Is it being suggested that Sheffield has not one, but TWO riders who have deliberately lost races - thereby cheating the paying public - in order to manipulate results for personal gain (i.e. securing places in the Sheffield team by unfairly contriving to falsify their averages)? These are serious allegations which the Speedway Control Bureau should investigate and, if proven, take appropriate action.

Remember David Layne, Peter Swan and Tony Kaye? Banned for life from professional football and sentenced in 1965 to four months in prison for "throwing" a football match. In his summing up the judge said "I also have to think of the tens of thousands of ordinary citizens who find relaxation in football and watching football. Over the years they have paid their shillings to see a football match played as they thought by experts. For those shillings, they got not a match, but a dishonest charade. It is my duty to make it clear to other evil-minded persons in all kinds of sport that this is a serious crime.”

 

I pay my "shilling" regularly to watch a speedway match. If what you are suggesting is true then I too am paying to see a dishonest charade which, in the judges words, is "a serious crime". If evidence exists that such events have taken place it should be presented to the Speedway Control Bureau. Otherwise people should keep their speculation to themselves.

 

Just one more reason why riders should compete fairly and maintain their integrity with the paying supporters.

Just to put the record straight, they didn't throw a match, they bet that their team, Sheffield Wednesday, would lose, in fact one of them got the man of the match award after the game, still a serious offence but not match fixing

[Mike0310]

When you look over your shoulder coming off the third turn and blatantly close your throttle off when your on a 5-1 and let the two opposition riders pass you then open it again is that cheating when your on the last lap,is it cheating when you look over your shoulder coming off the last turn and turn the throttle off so an opposition rider can pass you but when he locked up himself and couldn't quite get there and your reaction is to throw your hands in the air and start looking at said rider and start shaking your head is that cheating or is it all just a coincidence as I'm not the only plymouth fan by a long shot to notice it.

[IronScorpion]

When you look over your shoulder coming off the third turn and blatantly close your throttle off when your on a 5-1 and let the two opposition riders pass you then open it again is that cheating when your on the last lap,is it cheating when you look over your shoulder coming off the last turn and turn the throttle off so an opposition rider can pass you but when he locked up himself and couldn't quite get there and your reaction is to throw your hands in the air and start looking at said rider and start shaking your head is that cheating or is it all just a coincidence as I'm not the only plymouth fan by a long shot to notice it.

 

Ask Greg Hancock ?

[Mike0310]

And he got caught? So If the top dog got caught and when you look at all the TV angles it was pretty obvious what he did I suppose any one could do it.Anyway it's all in the past let's just see what he does for your team good luck to all the tigers fans and good luck Simon stead.

[graz gp]

When you look over your shoulder coming off the third turn and blatantly close your throttle off when your on a 5-1 and let the two opposition riders pass you then open it again is that cheating when your on the last lap,is it cheating when you look over your shoulder coming off the last turn and turn the throttle off so an opposition rider can pass you but when he locked up himself and couldn't quite get there and your reaction is to throw your hands in the air and start looking at said rider and start shaking your head is that cheating or is it all just a coincidence as I'm not the only plymouth fan by a long shot to notice it.

Did Todd Kurtz really do those things. If so bang out of order.

Did Todd Kurtz really do those things. If so bang out of order.

Yes it is cheating.

[lewy]

Yes he did but if you asked people in the know such as the team manager and todds mechanic you would realise it was a mechanical issue. I have stated that imo todd manipulated his ave but he did this by slowing down and letting his team mate pass him so he would still get the bonus point. Todd is a great lad good rider to have in your team and will be a good asset to sheffield. As for being miserable who can blame him the way plymouths promotion behaved last season was poor to say the least. Off track and socially todd is a good laugh and good company hes partial to jd and coke and knows how to enjoy himself👍

[Mike0310]

Yes he did but if you asked people in the know such as the team manager and todds mechanic you would realise it was a mechanical issue. I have stated that imo todd manipulated his ave but he did this by slowing down and letting his team mate pass him so he would still get the bonus point. Todd is a great lad good rider to have in your team and will be a good asset to sheffield. As for being miserable who can blame him the way plymouths promotion behaved last season was poor to say the least. Off track and socially todd is a good laugh and good company hes partial to jd and coke and knows how to enjoy himself

hmmm,I bow to your superior knowledge lewy.but it certainly never looked like that to me and the dozen or so people I stand with.

[Arson fire]

Can only see a 9 point average for Todd then, now hes happy and sorted his 5 year mechanical gremlins.

[Mike0310]

Can only see a 9 point average for Todd then, now hes happy and sorted his 5 year mechanical gremlins.

lol.i sense a bit of irony in your post .

[lewy]

Todd will put a point on his average maybe more👍

[Tigerite]

Thanks to all that came to tonight's STAARS meeting, next meeting is Thursday 12th January 2017 at the New Barrack Tavern from 7:30pm

[Halifaxtiger]

When you look over your shoulder coming off the third turn and blatantly close your throttle off when your on a 5-1 and let the two opposition riders pass you then open it again is that cheating when your on the last lap,is it cheating when you look over your shoulder coming off the last turn and turn the throttle off so an opposition rider can pass you but when he locked up himself and couldn't quite get there and your reaction is to throw your hands in the air and start looking at said rider and start shaking your head is that cheating or is it all just a coincidence as I'm not the only plymouth fan by a long shot to notice it.

 

I can say I never saw anything like that from Kurtz last season and while my visits to SBA were limited I saw a fair few away meetings. His performance at Peterborough was, indeed, one of the best away ones I saw anywhere in 2016.

 

I also don't recall any of the boys I know from Plymouth - who travel everywhere - complaining about him on track (although there might have been the odd one about him off track).

[Boothers]

Having just caught up with some of this thread can I just point out that at the time of Lasse Bjerre's disagreement with JBA at the 4TT weekend Lasse's average for 2016 was 6.11. At the seasons end he was averaging 6.49.

 

So if he was deliberately dropping his average he wasn't making a very good job of it!

[graz gp]

I would hope the promoters are going to have the track prepared differently for next season. I hope so because this year it was gate and go, no overtaking and not very entertaining. We look to have a decent team so i would like them to have a track that they can race on, even if they miss the gate. UTT

[Paddy The Rebel]

I can't remember a team like sheffield where every rider is capable of putting a 1pt on there averages,very astute team building.

 

Easily the best reserve partnership in the league,heatleaders are all capable of top scoring anywhere.

 

Recipe for success.

[Fromafar]

I would hope the promoters are going to have the track prepared differently for next season. I hope so because this year it was gate and go, no overtaking and not very entertaining. We look to have a decent team so i would like them to have a track that they can race on, even if they miss the gate. UTT

Ithink other Promotions should looking at Track Prep as a major factor as to why fans are deserting the sport.Its gate and go at too many venues now.Sheffield used to be one of the best racing tracks in the country.

[barncooseboy]

It is actualy getting more difficult as the years pass to obtain good track material, a number of quarries have closed, so the choice from years gone by are no longer available.

[New era Panthers]

It is actualy getting more difficult as the years pass to obtain good track material, a number of quarries have closed, so the choice from years gone by are no longer available.

And it doesn't come cheap anymore.

[The Third Man]

It is actualy getting more difficult as the years pass to obtain good track material, a number of quarries have closed, so the choice from years gone by are no longer available.

 

Yet some tracks do it on a regular basis, and Sheffield actually managed it on few occasions last season, the best meeting being against Newcastle in the league cup