OdsalBoy Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Do we actually stand any chance of signing Jack Holder ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Do we actually stand any chance of signing Jack Holder ? I would say with Somerset and Plymouth out of the equation we stand as good a chance as anyone else. Having read the release from the promotors meeting and the two lines that refer to this are to my mind rather vague and open to interpretation, stating 'Championship clubs must include include a young Brit with a 3-point average. In a bid to help young riders get a team spot any rider who hasn't achieved a 3-point average will come in on a minimum of 2'. For a start it doesn't say what league they've had to achieve that 3-point average in. The only league mentioned is the Championship, which actually doesn't exist yet (only in name) so no one has ridden in it! British youngster - will there actually be an age limit put on this? (The British 'youngster' rule in the Elite league was a bit of a farce was it not.) So to put it into context does it mean the riders who come in on a 3-point average will have achieved that in the existing Premier league or National league? Or is it that if they have not yet ridden in the existing Premier league they come in on a minimum 2-point average? Think the BSPA have to make a more detailed press release for the purposes of clarity. As Jack Parkinson Blackburn did reach an age where he was old enough to ride in the last years Premier League until September of this year surely he should be given special dispensation and come in a 2 point average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerite Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) STAARS - Thursday 10th November 2016 All Tigers Fans, The first of the monthly STAARS gatherings this closed season will be on Thursday 10th November 2016 at the New Barrack Tavern Pub on Penistone Road, Sheffield (0.5 mile south of Owlerton Stadium) from 7:30pm. As always it's a chance for Tigers fans, riders and management to catch up, have a chat and a few drinks from the NBT's excellent selection and hear any news/updates from the club during the silly season. All are welcome !!! Edited November 4, 2016 by Tigerite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 I would say with Somerset and Plymouth out of the equation we stand as good a chance as anyone else. As Jack Parkinson Blackburn did reach an age where he was old enough to ride in the last years Premier League until September of this year surely he should be given special dispensation and come in a 2 point average. Having seen Jack Holder ride Owlerton this year I think if he rode for Sheffield he could easily put 1.5 to 2 points on his average and be number 1. Â As I wrote clarity is required on this as the way it reads now he could come in as a 3-point or a 2-point rider which ever way you interpret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Â STAARS - Thursday 10th November 2016 All Tigers Fans, The first of the monthly STAARS gatherings this closed season will be on Thursday 12th November 2015 at the New Barrack Tavern Pub on Penistone Road, Sheffield (0.5 mile south of Owlerton Stadium) from 7:30pm. As always it's a chance for Tigers fans, riders and management to catch up, have a chat and a few drinks from the NBT's excellent selection and hear any news/updates from the club during the silly season. All are welcome !!! Â Thursday 12 November 2015 was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Any new Brit (not been in a declared team before) will start at 3. ie JPB & Smith  Any British rider that has been in a declared team but not attained a 3 point CMA will start on his true CMA but not lower than 2. Hence Bailey ay 2.05 & Greaves at 2.32  This is my understanding of the rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Any new Brit (not been in a declared team before) will start at 3. ie JPB & Smith  Any British rider that has been in a declared team but not attained a 3 point CMA will start on his true CMA but not lower than 2. Hence Bailey ay 2.05 & Greaves at 2.32  This is my understanding of the rule.  Mine too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 Any new Brit (not been in a declared team before) will start at 3. ie JPB & Smith  Any British rider that has been in a declared team but not attained a 3 point CMA will start on his true CMA but not lower than 2. Hence Bailey ay 2.05 & Greaves at 2.32  This is my understanding of the rule. and mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romans lovechild Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 well we can all play the guessing game, word on the street seems to be no jason or steady this year, so hear goes. would love to see dimi back but unsure on that one, it looks like kyle and josh will be the first 2 names on the sheet, personally i think josh would be better with a season on loan at a smaller track, but a team to challenge at the top end with both youth and experience would be. 1. holder 2. bates 3. schlein 4. robson 5. howarth 6. jpb 7. jack smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Well I have a feeling it's going to be one big league with perhaps a north south divide. No Lakeside, Liecester will drop as well imo, other teams will maybe not ride. The North/South divide has been achieved by stealth. Look at the comparative geography of the two leagues and anyone who fails to see that geographic location played more than a small part in determining the makeup of the two leagues is deluding himself. Â Glad to hear that Workington are definitely running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geepeeargh Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 The North/South divide has been achieved by stealth. Look at the comparative geography of the two leagues and anyone who fails to see that geographic location played more than a small part in determining the makeup of the two leagues is deluding himself. Â Wow. So if the Championship winners beat the Premiership wooden spoonists, all the Southern clubs will be relegated and the Northern clubs will be the new Premiership! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 The North/South divide has been achieved by stealth. Look at the comparative geography of the two leagues and anyone who fails to see that geographic location played more than a small part in determining the makeup of the two leagues is deluding himself. Â Wow. So if the Championship winners beat the Premiership wooden spoonists, all the Southern clubs will be relegated and the Northern clubs will be the new Premiership! Don't quite understand what you're getting at GPR. Â My point is that, for 2017 at least, what we have effectively is a Southern League and a Northern League in all but name. Simple really. Â On a more technical point, does anyone have views on the announcement that the BSPA will be working with the Swiss manufacturers of the GTR engine which, allegedly, will drastically reduce riders' maintenance costs? Would any techie on this forum care to explain to the rest of us what impact this may have on the sport or whether it's just pie in the sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Don't quite understand what you're getting at GPR. Â My point is that, for 2017 at least, what we have effectively is a Southern League and a Northern League in all but name. Simple really. Â On a more technical point, does anyone have views on the announcement that the BSPA will be working with the Swiss manufacturers of the GTR engine which, allegedly, will drastically reduce riders' maintenance costs? Would any techie on this forum care to explain to the rest of us what impact this may have on the sport or whether it's just pie in the sky? Simply, the need to send engine for a rebuild, is drastically reduced,saving riders big bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Simply, the need to send engine for a rebuild, is drastically reduced,saving riders big bucks. If it were that simple all the riders would be using it already. There has to be a downside. How does it compare (in terms of price and performance, for example) to GM or Jawa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 If it were that simple all the riders would be using it already. There has to be a downside. How does it compare (in terms of price and performance, for example) to GM or Jawa?It is more expensive to buy but cheaper to maintain, not sure on performance but 'Fast Freddie' has been on one this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 If it were that simple all the riders would be using it already. There has to be a downside. How does it compare (in terms of price and performance, for example) to GM or Jawa? Ask Freddie Lindgren. He has been scoring well in all leagues, GP's & cut down on servicing costs by being involved with the engineers with his input & views all season. His set-up have made him very quick. The engine, itself is dearer, but by having a better oil pump, part replacement & service is vastly cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Ask Freddie Lindgren. He has been scoring well in all leagues, GP's & cut down on servicing costs by being involved with the engineers with his input & views all season. His set-up have made him very quick. The engine, itself is dearer, but by having a better oil pump, part replacement & service is vastly cut. Sounds as if this could be the best thing to happen to speedway for years. Anything that makes the sport more affordable for riders, promoters and sponsors has to be good news for the fans as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Any new Brit (not been in a declared team before) will start at 3. ie JPB & Smith  Any British rider that has been in a declared team but not attained a 3 point CMA will start on his true CMA but not lower than 2. Hence Bailey ay 2.05 & Greaves at 2.32  This is my understanding of the rule. when speaking to Chris Louis last night at the Ipswich end of year do he gave the impression any newcomer would be on a 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Gonna cost loads for the riders to initially buy 2/3 gerhard engines brand new just to start the season and then who will buy their previous GM's off them if everyone needs gerhards? I can see positives in the idea of cutting servicing costs but it will cost more to buy new engines and not be able to offload their old stock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 when speaking to Chris Louis last night at the Ipswich end of year do he gave the impression any newcomer would be on a 2. Â and thats why ippo will not win the league while he is in charge , he dont know the rules .lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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