4thbender Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Dark winter months lie ahead and it's a good time to start some early speculation about what 2017 might bring to Owlerton. For my money, Sheffield have under-performed this season and radical change might be necessary to shake things up. For what it's worth, here are my thoughts: Simon Stead: past his peak and whatever average he finishes on this season, he won't be able to maintain next season. Time to move him on to pastures new and say a hearty "thank you and well done." Jason Garrity: The only rider in the current team who can fill Stead's shoes and step up to no.1. He may have blotted his copy book with his antics in the pits, but he's a total crowd-pleaser on the track and, whatever the current state of his relationship with the management, they must kiss and make up and get him back for next season. Kyle Howarth: The outstanding surprise of the season, particularly his away performances. Must be back next year. Dimiti Bergé: Another surprise package. His early form at home paired with Steady demonstrated what he's capable of, but I think there's a lot more to come from him in the future. Sign him now. Josh Bates: His team performances have gone backwards this year and, in my opinion, he would benefit from a move. Family ties to the management are not in his best interests or those of the team. Time to move on, if only temporarily. Arthur Sissis: Generally disappointing since his comeback, but has started to hit a bit of form in his last few outings (since he learned how to move outside into the dirt). If his form continues through the playoffs I'd give him another chance at reserve next year. Nathan Greaves: Clearly out of his depth and needs another year or two in the National League before stepping up. Who to bring in: David Bellego has prospered since leaving Owlerton. I thought it was a big mistake to let him go last year and would plead for him to come back. Him and his mate (and fellow-frenchie) Bergé in the same team would hit it off a treat. Also a return to British speedway for Ty Proctor is overdue and the way he was treated two years ago means we owe him one. So my 2017 team would be: Garrity Bellego Howarth Proctor Bergé Sissis A.N.Other from National League Don't know how that would stack up points-wise, but I'm sure someone will inform us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits4eva Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Think if Berwick do run next year with new promotion team then they've got to look to ask David to come back to his parent club. I was disappointed when he left because he's got ooodles of talent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 1. Jason Garrity 8.43 2. Josh Bates 5.46 3. Dimitri Berge 7.09 4. Ulrich Ostergaard 8.08 5. Kyle Howarth 6.95 6. Richard Hall 3.29 7. 3.00?? Total 42.30 OR 1. Brady Kurtz 9.22 2. Nicolai Klindt 5.42 3. Jason Garrity 8.43 4. Josh Bates 5.46 5. Kyle Howarth 6.95 6. Arthur Sissis 3.79 7. 3.00?? Total 42.27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 #1 Jason #2 ? #3 ? #4 josh #5 kyle #6 Ashley morris #7 max clegg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'd keep Kyle and Dimi and also Arthur,there's a rider in there,personally I think he needs better equipment. Josh basically stood still at Owlerton this year maybe a year away from been the 'local star' might help him. Heat leaders.Steady would have to be the number 2 if he continues,you can still see flashes of the old Simon,but its abit like Sean Wilson in 2005 where Sean never quite got back to his pre broken neck form. Jason I'd keep,but i have no idea what went on at Ipswich,also he missed lots of fixtures due to injury so that may weigh against him. Riders the management might consider are our old friends Craig Cook and Brady Kurtz if we need a new number 1 and Jack Holder who flies around Owlerton. 3.00 rider would likely to be Jack Parkinson-Blackburn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenR195 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 What about Jonas B Andersen?, he loves the track and always seems to go well round there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'd keep Kyle and Dimi and also Arthur,there's a rider in there,personally I think he needs better equipment. Josh basically stood still at Owlerton this year maybe a year away from been the 'local star' might help him. Heat leaders.Steady would have to be the number 2 if he continues,you can still see flashes of the old Simon,but its abit like Sean Wilson in 2005 where Sean never quite got back to his pre broken neck form. Jason I'd keep,but i have no idea what went on at Ipswich,also he missed lots of fixtures due to injury so that may weigh against him. Riders the management might consider are our old friends Craig Cook and Brady Kurtz if we need a new number 1 and Jack Holder who flies around Owlerton. 3.00 rider would likely to be Jack Parkinson-Blackburn. Brady Kurtz has turned his back on PL to concentrate on EL with Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Brady Kurtz has turned his back on PL to concentrate on EL with Poole. Lots of riders do that just to drop back down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I think Steady will retire at the end of the season, If not then I think we should keep him in the side. If he does retire then for me we have to offer him the Team Managers job, he did say in a recent Podcast that he does with Ollie Allen that he would like to have a go at Management. So this would be my team for 2017. (1) Jason Garrity or Simon Stead (2) Kai Huckenbeck (3) Dimitri Berge (4) Kyle Howarth (5) Rory Schlein (6) Adam Roynon (7) Jack Parkinson Blackburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogo1 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Maybe have to buy Berge if you want him again in 2017 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Maybe have to buy Berge if you want him again in 2017 lol Why you skint already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Who is Berge owned by? Is it Glasgow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Who is Berge owned by? Is it Glasgow? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Why you skint already. If you listen to some EdinBURGER fans then with all the money were are paying in wages then we must be. In all seriousness though there is no chance that Berge will ever ride for us again so at a guess and what i heard couple off months ago they are looking to sell to whoever wants to buy him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 From what Simon said after the PLRC it would appear that he's considering retirement, and if he gets the chance I think he would be presenting alongside Nigel Pearson on Sky, giving Tatum the chance to concentrate on his managerial job with Lakeside. Howarth has had a reasonable season, sometimes looked really good, but had the occasional off night. Berge is definitely ok around Owlerton, when he gates, didn't see him pass many when he didn't, and he didn't do that well at the away tracks did he? Sissis might perform better with improved machinery under him. Greaves needs to concentrate on the National League. Garrity won't be back if he's fallen out with the Bates clan. although I'd like to see him back as he's provided the most entertainment this year. Bates, I didn't want to see him here this year, but when his family is running the show, can't see him going elsewhere, please let me be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonian Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Does anyone know what has actually happened between Garrity and the Bates'? Him and Josh seem to get on great in the pits, after race wins etc and now all of a sudden they've all fallen out? Is there any true stories or all just rumours? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Does anyone know what has actually happened between Garrity and the Bates'? Him and Josh seem to get on great in the pits, after race wins etc and now all of a sudden they've all fallen out? Is there any true stories or all just rumours? No is probably the quick answer I suspect! There was a comment from the Ipswich press guy that he'd had an argument with Boocock (I think) when he pulled out of the meeting there and it all seems to have stemmed from that. Although the way it was phrased in the programme that he wasn't going to be riding for us again this year was slightly curious I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 After tonights showing we need a complete clear out the only three i would consider are Berge Howarth Sissis hopefully Parkinson Blackburn as a 3 pointer and then three others, maybe Rory Schlien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) From what Simon said after the PLRC it would appear that he's considering retirement, and if he gets the chance I think he would be presenting alongside Nigel Pearson on Sky, giving Tatum the chance to concentrate on his managerial job with Lakeside. Howarth has had a reasonable season, sometimes looked really good, but had the occasional off night. Berge is definitely ok around Owlerton, when he gates, didn't see him pass many when he didn't, and he didn't do that well at the away tracks did he? Sissis might perform better with improved machinery under him. Greaves needs to concentrate on the National League. Garrity won't be back if he's fallen out with the Bates clan. although I'd like to see him back as he's provided the most entertainment this year. Bates, I didn't want to see him here this year, but when his family is running the show, can't see him going elsewhere, please let me be wrong! Kelvin won't give up Sky he managed to ride s/way and longtrack at the same time as he worked for Sky in the past and with all due repect Simon hasn't got the same disposition as Kelvin in front of the camera .Simon should retire one major injury too many IMO and would make an excellent team manager plus he can bring so much to the sport in other ways . Edited September 23, 2016 by FAST GATER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho3a Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 I dont get this clamour for Simon to retire... He is averaging 8.5, he is the current premier league champion and is the only rider to beat the British champion Danny King at Ipswich in over 40 races... Simon seems to have had a few issues with bikes and setups this year but is still on a 2016 GSA after 27 meetings and 123 races 8.42including an away average of 7.92 which is probably as good as any other number 1 in the premier league. Will update my team later as really dont know how to change it for the better.. 2 riders who should NOT be in the Sheffield 7 are Josh Bates and Nathan Greaves 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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