Grachan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Slightly off topic, but hey, so is Poole slightly off topic so what the heck. Has anyone bought the "Memories of Swindon Speedway" DVD? An advert for it came up on my Facebook page. Is it worth getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Really unsure as to what Alun expects to get out of Bellego? Under the old format pre-EDR he would had made a reasonable reserve but as much as some are harping on about his rides at The OTA last year he hasn't really kicked on that much, lets be honest he is very hit and miss does rely on his gating somewhat but is coming into the side sharing the heatleader position with Ellis at this rate, worrying to be fair, a large percentage of riders are in the same boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 to be fair, a large percentage of riders are in the same boat. Yeah but he's a PL rider taking up 7.63 , if we were going to sign someone for his gating skills Klindt would had been a better option lets hope he's still in the frame as opposed to some of the low standard riders we are linked to i.e Lykke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 the more I think about what is happening for next season, my enthusiasm is waning quite a bit tbf. It just feels as a sport we have taken a backward step again, it's like having a junior or two back at reserve with all these inflated averages with a very low points limit. maximum average per meeting 12:00, Doyley on a 13+ it really makes you feel like saying **** it, I've had enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Yeah but he's a PL rider taking up 7.63 , if we were going to sign someone for his gating skills Klindt would had been a better option lets hope he's still in the frame as opposed to some of the low standard riders we are linked to i.e Lykke! Don't think Lykke will happen now, as Rosco appears to have a broken calculator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 the more I think about what is happening for next season, my enthusiasm is waning quite a bit tbf. It just feels as a sport we have taken a backward step again, it's like having a junior or two back at reserve with all these inflated averages with a very low points limit. maximum average per meeting 12:00, Doyley on a 13+ it really makes you feel like saying **** it, I've had enough. So if Doyle scores 15 points a meeting his average is 12 points a meeting. Which is the truer figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think that for the 2nd biggest team in the UK in terms of everything put together in speedway and having the GB manger. Swindon can't build teams. Great to show respect to a GB rider in Ellis but that doesn't win you titles. Wolves last year were ruthless and they won. Rosco needs to pick a more balanced team as well. Love Doyle, but Swindon should have looked at Hampel for example just for those extra 3.5 points. I feel like top 4 riders will be good and bottom 3 awful. And your bottom riders need to be JPB or Smith. We have Shanes which is one of the top 3 young UK riders and you need one of the others I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think that for the 2nd biggest team in the UK in terms of everything put together in speedway and having the GB manger. Swindon can't build teams. Great to show respect to a GB rider in Ellis but that doesn't win you titles. Wolves last year were ruthless and they won. Rosco needs to pick a more balanced team as well. Love Doyle, but Swindon should have looked at Hampel for example just for those extra 3.5 points. I feel like top 4 riders will be good and bottom 3 awful. And your bottom riders need to be JPB or Smith. We have Shanes which is one of the top 3 young UK riders and you need one of the others I feel. Thanks for the advice but we're perfectly happy with Doyle, miles better than an unreliable, inconsistent Pole. Talking of which, how's your search for a "Number1" going? Still pinning your hopes on KK? Can't even see him bothering to turn up at Rye & Wolves, although to be fair this year he did get to Monmore Green once & banged in 5 points! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think that for the 2nd biggest team in the UK in terms of everything put together in speedway and having the GB manger. Swindon can't build teams. Great to show respect to a GB rider in Ellis but that doesn't win you titles. Wolves last year were ruthless and they won. Rosco needs to pick a more balanced team as well. Love Doyle, but Swindon should have looked at Hampel for example just for those extra 3.5 points. I feel like top 4 riders will be good and bottom 3 awful. And your bottom riders need to be JPB or Smith. We have Shanes which is one of the top 3 young UK riders and you need one of the others I feel. I like Shane but I don't think he is one of the top three young UK riders as usual you exaggerate every thing involving Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) So if Doyle scores 15 points a meeting his average is 12 points a meeting. Which is the truer figure? If Doyle gets, say, 17 from 5 including a TR ride he's scored to his average. I think that for the 2nd biggest team in the UK in terms of everything put together in speedway and having the GB manger. Swindon can't build teams. Great to show respect to a GB rider in Ellis but that doesn't win you titles. Wolves last year were ruthless and they won. Rosco needs to pick a more balanced team as well. Love Doyle, but Swindon should have looked at Hampel for example just for those extra 3.5 points. I feel like top 4 riders will be good and bottom 3 awful. And your bottom riders need to be JPB or Smith. We have Shanes which is one of the top 3 young UK riders and you need one of the others I feel. I don't care for Hampel at all. Doyle is our number one and as far as I'm concerened we need to keep him and the league needs to keep him and I'm glad he's still in the side. The back up is looking a bit iffy though - and it's not just because we have Jason. Having said that, when you look at the riders available, there aren't so many options and other teams may strugge for strength too as we get used to now being a PL side. Rye House look good on paper (although all their top 5 are probably on the way down so maybe they flatter to deceive?), and the Poole teams being put forward look quite decent at this level - but Chris Holder is probably gone from the league and may, now, never come back, Was it worth it? For me, no. No. Swindon need Jason Doyle, not Jarek Hampel. As long as we ride well at home and don't get relegated at least we will have achived that. But when all teams are put together it may turn out that Swindon suddenly don't look as weak as they currently do. Edited November 22, 2016 by grachan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Please do you want to lick Matt's !!!! he is not a god and going by last year he has to prove again he can create a team i am not convinced he can again. Slightly off topic, but hey, so is Poole slightly off topic so what the heck. Has anyone bought the "Memories of Swindon Speedway" DVD? An advert for it came up on my Facebook page. Is it worth getting? YES get it for christmas.😀 Edited November 22, 2016 by Sidney the robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 You're blaming the team manager for how his rider performed? :rofl: Have you got a brain in that nut of yours? You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The rapport Neil has with his riders is second to none. He opens his home to the entire team, even taking care of their food and washing for them. There are few managers in Britain the same performances many riders have achieved under Neils management. When Matt puts together the best team its easy to manage the only job he has is to motivate and as we discovered when he was GB manager he's not up to it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 So if Doyle scores 15 points a meeting his average is 12 points a meeting. Which is the truer figure? 15 divided by 5 = 3 3 times 4 = 12 12 is his average. Noone should have an average over 12. It's not possible. I'm quite pleased with the changes this year, but the x1.4 formula is this years 'Heat leader list'. Wheras everything else seems pretty straight, this is an artificial multiplier made up at he AGM and (crucially IMO) .....this artificial figure is allowed to break reality. Imagine trying to explain this to anyone outside the sport. 'But how can someone have an average above what's physically possible??' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 divided by 5 = 3 3 times 4 = 12 12 is his average. Noone should have an average over 12. It's not possible. I'm quite pleased with the changes this year, but the x1.4 formula is this years 'Heat leader list'. Wheras everything else seems pretty straight, this is an artificial multiplier made up at he AGM and (crucially IMO) .....this artificial figure is allowed to break reality. Imagine trying to explain this to anyone outside the sport. 'But how can someone have an average above what's physically possible??' The clubs won't average 50 points between the 9 of them either so don't see the issue of having riders over 12. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMungo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 divided by 5 = 3 3 times 4 = 12 12 is his average. Noone should have an average over 12. It's not possible. I'm quite pleased with the changes this year, but the x1.4 formula is this years 'Heat leader list'. Wheras everything else seems pretty straight, this is an artificial multiplier made up at he AGM and (crucially IMO) .....this artificial figure is allowed to break reality. Imagine trying to explain this to anyone outside the sport. 'But how can someone have an average above what's physically possible??' The Premiership 'averages' are only artificial. Guys like Doyle won't be expecting to get near their average. People are taking the term 'average' far too literally with the new averages. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I think that for the 2nd biggest team in the UK in terms of everything put together in speedway and having the GB manger. Swindon can't build teams. Great to show respect to a GB rider in Ellis but that doesn't win you titles. Wolves last year were ruthless and they won. Rosco needs to pick a more balanced team as well. Love Doyle, but Swindon should have looked at Hampel for example just for those extra 3.5 points. I feel like top 4 riders will be good and bottom 3 awful. And your bottom riders need to be JPB or Smith. We have Shanes which is one of the top 3 young UK riders and you need one of the others I feel. 2nd biggest team in the UK , im assuming behind Belle Vue. Why would you have a flakey Pole instead of Doyle?? Shanes , a good little rider yes, top 3 young riders in the UK?? Not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 2nd biggest team in the UK , im assuming behind Belle Vue. Why would you have a flakey Pole instead of Doyle?? Shanes , a good little rider yes, top 3 young riders in the UK?? Not even close KK has never been flakey for Poole, i accept other teams may have had problems but not Poole, much loved and appreciated at Wimborne Road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 KK has never been flakey for Poole, i accept other teams may have had problems but not Poole, much loved and appreciated at Wimborne Road. You misread me mate. Wasnt talking about KK, Poolebolton said Hampel should ride for Swindon instead of Doyle, i was calling Hampel flakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 2nd biggest team in the UK , im assuming behind Belle Vue. Why would you have a flakey Pole instead of Doyle?? Shanes , a good little rider yes, top 3 young riders in the UK?? Not even close Well everyone else says Shanes is one of top three young riders like JPB. Belle Vue being a big club???? They can't even run which is just awful. They should be they have the history and the largest population of people to target and they can't do it. NSS should have been built in Swindon thats from a Poole fan as well. KK is a bloody good rider. And Doyle came good last season and one year before that. Don't get ahead of yourself yet. You misread me mate. Wasnt talking about KK, Poolebolton said Hampel should ride for Swindon instead of Doyle, i was calling Hampel flakey Hampel would be a good rider and would make there team much stronger. I guess time will tell over the season but i fear for Swindon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Well everyone else says Shanes is one of top three young riders like JPB. Belle Vue being a big club???? They can't even run which is just awful. They should be they have the history and the largest population of people to target and they can't do it. NSS should have been built in Swindon thats from a Poole fan as well. KK is a bloody good rider. And Doyle came good last season and one year before that. Don't get ahead of yourself yet. Wasnt talking about KK!! You mentioned Hampel who i was saying was flakey!! And yes ask anyone down the pub who isnt a speedway fan to name a club and i would imagine a majority would say Belle Vue. Still the biggest club in stature in the UK irrelevent of their finances and lack of trophys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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