JCookie Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Might not pay itself back next season but hopefully Ellis will show some loyalty to Swindon in future and they'll have a top GB rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Great signing and with Rosco as boss this should help him on international scene. Apart from Lambert UK's best shot at GP rider. I imagine Morris will come in. I think Rosco has got some European riders on the way. With some low scores. You might do a Poole get Dudek on a 4. Hahhahah. But great respect to Swindon. We let Ellis down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 At least we are building top down. I can see some very poor riders making up the numbers next year's league, so it isn't a huge problem bring top heavy. Rosco isn't stupid. He's been in this game long enough. He gets the arguably the best rider in the World at no 1 even if it does mean less options further down. That in itself brings punter thru the door and insures plenty of points in that slot. At least 5 rides and maybe 6 if they go 10 points down under the new rules. I think he may add Morris and then go for young riders with potential. As I have said on other posts. The league is not won in the first few months. Hang on in there in the top 4 if possible and give the fans an entertaining team with a proven star. Hopefully some of the younger riders will improve and let's not forget that many teams will also have weaker lower orders so I see plenty of points up for grabs even for young less experienced riders. These are difficult times which we have to accept and the main thing is to get good speedway with clever rider management being key plus investment in our own UK and overseas younger riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Doyle Porsing Ellis Busk Jacobsen Morris Grondal (Branford or Campton) 2.31 NL rider Doyle apart, I don't that team would make last seasons PL play-offs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Doyle apart, I don't that team would make last seasons PL play-offs! The goalposts have been moved, so you can't judge anything in either league on last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Poor signing on that average ...the horse has already boltedHow do you know that ?when you dont even know who the other five riders are?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Doyle apart, I don't that team would make last seasons PL play-offs! But with Doyle in it would have won them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 As I said on the Poole thread I had no doubt Ellis would get offers. I think Matt Ford will regret letting Holder and Ellis go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 As I said on the Poole thread I had no doubt Ellis would get offers. I think Matt Ford will regret letting Holder and Ellis go.With those two "woz J.Holder,Kurtz, Newman and two others god they would of been hard to beat at home like most years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 How do you know that ?when you dont even know who the other five riders are?. Why would have to know who the other 5 riders are to know that Ellis has been pick on a average that he won't be able to maintain ? is this the new rule of the speedway forum that know one can have a opinion on a rider and his average intill everyone's 1 -7 is known ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Why would have to know who the other 5 riders are to know that Ellis has been pick on a average that he won't be able to maintain ? is this the new rule of the speedway forum that know one can have a opinion on a rider and his average intill everyone's 1 -7 is known ?Until you know what the overall team is strength wise why would you knock Ellis before he has even turned a wheel.If it is a weak team and you believe there were better options out there of course you would then have a point. Wait for the 1-7 to be completed then form a opinion also you dont yet know the strengths of the other sides do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Until you know what the overall team is strength wise why would you knock Ellis before he has even turned a wheel.If it is a weak team and you believe there were better options out there of course you would then have a point. Wait for the 1-7 to be completed then form a opinion also you dont yet know the strengths of the other sides do you. .in my opinion that I allowed on a speedway forum is that Ellis has been sign on average that is far to high ..once the Swindon 1 -7 is known I am still going to feel the same it won't any difference to my opinion ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 .in my opinion that I allowed on a speedway forum is that Ellis has been sign on average that is far to high ..once the Swindon 1 -7 is known I am still going to feel the same it won't any difference to my opinion ... Same applies to Jason Doyle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 .in my opinion that I allowed on a speedway forum is that Ellis has been sign on average that is far to high ..once the Swindon 1 -7 is known I am still going to feel the same it won't any difference to my opinion ...If you have a 1/7 that gels, that is competetive and exciting does it matter what average Ellis gets.So Swindon win the league and Ellis has a lower average you will still say hey i was right some people have averages on the brain.Have a look Orion carefully around Ellis's average and see if he is VALUE compared to others you might be surprised. Same applies to Jason Doyle..Are you on another planet? if he gets between 11/15 every meeting why would he not be value.If he is properly fit with no falls no efs no tape ex he will fill his boots every meeting in this tin hat league great for his bank balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 .in my opinion that I allowed on a speedway forum is that Ellis has been sign on average that is far to high ..once the Swindon 1 -7 is known I am still going to feel the same it won't any difference to my opinion ...every riders average is to high! Ellis is better than Newman and Howarth and not as good as Garrity or Lambert and the averages reflect that. I said before 95% of riders will see their averages drop. Same applies to Jason Doyle..get a grip. One day you will actually know what you are talking about. Hans Andersen on a far worse average than Doyle. Love the sour grapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Oh dear Orion is rattled..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I am a Poole fan but I have a lot of love for Swindon. As our local rivals for a very long time I've made many a visit to Swindon and enjoyed every one of them, even when we've not been winning. IMO however, a team that has spent nearly half it's points allowance on just 2 riders, with an average of just 5.75 to fill the remaining 5 places, is not a good looking contender. And as a man with many trophies under his belt, I am sure this is why Matt Ford had to make the decision not to sign them. Of course Oxford in 86 built a side in which over 20 of the 45 point limit went on two riders. Tbh that worked out ok for them. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 every riders average is to high! Ellis is better than Newman and Howarth and not as good as Garrity or Lambert and the averages reflect that. I said before 95% of riders will see their averages drop. get a grip. One day you will actually know what you are talking about. Hans Andersen on a far worse average than Doyle. Love the sour grapes It's all relevant ...to put it another way he average will drop more than the others ...I reckon last year will turn out to a flash in the pan ...as I said a poor signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 It's all relevant ...to put it another way he average will drop more than the others ...I reckon last year will turn out to a flash in the pan ...as I said a poor signingis that a real statement? Last year was a flash in the pan?? If all riders have the same season as last year then they will all drop the equivalent of the 1.4 multiplication. This is a weaker league and if Doyle takes it seriously then he will be nigh in unbeatable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted November 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 So, I just thought I will have a go at predicting the next 5 signings. SWINDON1. Jason Doyle. 13.412. Woryna= 6.513.Adam Ellis* 7.844.Joe Jacobs= 5.365.Sedgmen=7.66.Ayers=3.707.Nielsen= 5.53 Very young team. But Doyle, Ellis, Sedgmen will get you 30 points a meeting easy. Just need the others to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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