Reliant Robin Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 People are very hung up on this 13.41 average, it's different, but I don't see why we can't still put together a side to challenge......it may only become apparent that we're ok once other teams start getting announced. If 50 points win a meeting and Doyle is good for 13-15 in most meetings then why is he not worth a punt? Of course his average will drop, but so will all teams combined average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Poor side tbh. Wright would struggle at No.3 T. Kurtz would struggle period. I don't think Swindon can put a decent side together with Doyle taking up 13.41 of the points. Tbf Klindt would effectively be the third heat leader. not much value in the averages of kurtz/nielsen though. be better off upgrading one of those to morris (who would be first name on my list) and dropping the other for a 2 pointer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 SWINDON 1 Jason Doyle 13.41 2 Brady Kurtz 7.65 3 Justin Sedgmen 7.60 4 Todd Kurtz 5.76 5 Stefan Nielsen 5.53 6 Nicolai Klindt 5.42 7 Robert Branford 4.60 Total 49.97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 B kurtz will surely be at poole and Klindt surely at wolves? and can't understand people leaving out morris? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Any team suggestions with Jason? I just had a bit of a go. I came up with this, which doesn't look too weak from 2-7 bearing in mind what other sides will look like too. Doyle 13.41 Harris 9.21 Wright 6.59 (hmmm, Charles as third heatleader looks a bit dodgy) T. Kurtz 5.76 (random last rider who fitted in) Klindt 5.42 Nielsen 5.53 Ayers 3.70 That comes to 49.62. Doyle and Harris would be a damn good spearhead. That looks a good, well balanced team. Klindt should be a steal, but I imagine whoever has the biggest chequebook will get his signing. Kurtz, Nielsen and Ayres all have potential to improve. SWINDON 1 Jason Doyle 13.41 2 Brady Kurtz 7.65 3 Justin Sedgmen 7.60 4 Todd Kurtz 5.76 5 Stefan Nielsen 5.53 6 Nicolai Klindt 5.42 7 Robert Branford 4.60 Total 49.97 Not for me thanks How about: Jason Doyle (13.41) Nick Morris (8.97) Davey Watt (7.56) Demitri Berge (6.91) Stefan Nielsen (5.53) Max Clegg (4.04) Danny Ayres (3.56) 49.98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Doyle...............13.41 Morris...............8.97 B.Kurtz.............7.65 Klindt................5.42 Nielsen.............5.53 MPT..................5.18 Ayres................3.70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Doyle...............13.41 Morris...............8.97 B.Kurtz.............7.65 Klindt................5.42 Nielsen.............5.53 MPT..................5.18 Ayres................3.70 We can only dream of signing Kurtz and Klindt and MPTs average is 6.98. Nice team though. Would certainly challenge in the new league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Doyle...............13.41 Morris...............8.97 B.Kurtz.............7.65 Klindt................5.42 Nielsen.............5.53 MPT..................5.18 Ayres................3.70 MPT has a higher average than that?. Will there be a rule that new riders will not be allowed when Jason drops his average??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) We can only dream of signing Kurtz and Klindt and MPTs average is 6.98. Nice team though. Would certainly challenge in the new league. Where are you getting MPT average from? I see now rode for two teams, oops MPT has a higher average than that?. Will there be a rule that new riders will not be allowed when Jason drops his average??. No one knows what limits will be set after first set of averages are achieved, probably something ridiculous. Edited November 9, 2016 by noggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Doyle...............13.41 Morris...............8.97 B.Kurtz.............7.65 Klindt................5.42 Nielsen.............5.53 MPT..................5.18 Ayres................3.70 How many double-uppers in all these suggested teams? With everyone from Freddie Lindgren down in the averages able to sign for a Championship team, especially the more reliable and cost-effective Brits who don't have foreign clubs, it could be almost impossible for Premiership teams to sign good riders if only two double-uppers are allowed. Practically every team will need two double-uppers in the 1-5 and two more at reserve or have to look to foreign fringe riders like Huckenbach and Grondal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 How many double-uppers in all these suggested teams? With everyone from Freddie Lindgren down in the averages able to sign for a Championship team, especially the more reliable and cost-effective Brits who don't have foreign clubs, it could be almost impossible for Premiership teams to sign good riders if only two double-uppers are allowed. Practically every team will need two double-uppers in the 1-5 and two more at reserve or have to look to foreign fringe riders like Huckenbach and Grondal! It's OK, Rosco still has Jurica Pavlic, Dawid Lampart and Renat Gafurov's numbers on his old Nokia he keeps in the loft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It's OK, Rosco still has Jurica Pavlic, Dawid Lampart and Renat Gafurov's numbers on his old Nokia he keeps in the loft. Yep. Trawling the old Greensheets for a one-season flop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Yep. Trawling the old Greensheets for a one-season flop! Dawid Lampart was part of our Elite League winning team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 People are very hung up on this 13.41 average, it's different, but I don't see why we can't still put together a side to challenge......it may only become apparent that we're ok once other teams start getting announced. If 50 points win a meeting and Doyle is good for 13-15 in most meetings then why is he not worth a punt? Of course his average will drop, but so will all teams combined average. If Doyleys average drops he wont be good for said amount then, would he. Bad move imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It would be ridiculous 8f they keep the 50 point limit based on actual averages, and Chris Louis has alluded some conversion will be used - which is unnneccesary, they should just drop the limit to 42/43 points. So far only the promoters know what will happen with the team average total after the first green sheets, but if we go on past performance (cock ups) of the bspa rule makers nothing would surprise me re if they have thought it through. If they had thought things through we would not have the mess they seem to have got themselves into with the averages attained last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Dawid Lampart was part of our Elite League winning team! 6.41 now though with the 1.4 conversion. We need someone worse than Dawid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 It would be ridiculous 8f they keep the 50 point limit based on actual averages, and Chris Louis has alluded some conversion will be used - which is unnneccesary, they should just drop the limit to 42/43 points. Or better still, keep the 50 point limit and multiply every rider's Match Average by 1.4 for the purposes of team building. This has the added benefit of any Championship rider who does not have a Premiership average, can move up without any conversion. The other option is to drop the limit to 42-ish, but the problem with this is you are potentially basing all riders averages on 4H and 4A meetings, you then need to determine a Championship to Premiership conversion rate, plus you will still potentially have riders who are not in a current Premiership team on false averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 With the standard getting lower every season, is there any point in Doyle coming back. He won't be severely tested in next years 'premiership'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Or better still, keep the 50 point limit and multiply every rider's Match Average by 1.4 for the purposes of team building. This has the added benefit of any Championship rider who does not have a Premiership average, can move up without any conversion. The other option is to drop the limit to 42-ish, but the problem with this is you are potentially basing all riders averages on 4H and 4A meetings, you then need to determine a Championship to Premiership conversion rate, plus you will still potentially have riders who are not in a current Premiership team on false averages. Easily done. go with the latter. New riders are converted at 1.2 from El, .85 from pl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Sounds like Rosco has made some signings according to his tweets or he is on a wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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