Grachan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Heat 15 does not count towards an average, only their 4 rides do. Since when? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Straight swap for porsing would fit Just as aces could have brought in For Sedgeman. Really odd that Somerset didn't think he was worth keeping on a 5 We've ridden quite a few matches since he left, where he would of been stuck at no.1 and scoring very little. Richard Lawson who replaced him has piled up the points since replacing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Ages as far as I'm aware. Have a look at the official scorecard on the bspa site, only states 4 rides, also it's why the max average is 12... Since when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Ages as far as I'm aware. Have a look at the official scorecard on the bspa site, only states 4 rides, also it's why the max average is 12... It always has been a 4 ride average but it still includes heat 15 rides, number of rides divided by 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Heat 15 does not count towards an average, only their 4 rides do. Since when? Heat 15 does count. And has always counted. All averages are calculated by times 4 to give a maximum of 12. It's always been that way. Eg. A 15 point maximum from 5 rides is 15÷5×4=12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Heat 15 does count. And has always counted. All averages are calculated by times 4 to give a maximum of 12. It's always been that way. Eg. A 15 point maximum from 5 rides is 15÷5×4=12. Just beat you to it the Steve! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Ages as far as I'm aware. Have a look at the official scorecard on the bspa site, only states 4 rides, also it's why the max average is 12... Heat 15 has been included in the averages for as long as I can remember. The extra column in red on the scorecard is the score from a rider's four programmed rides, as these are the scores which count towards heat 15 eligibility. The max average is 12 because it is all points (including R/R, reserve switches and heat 15) dividend by the number of rides then multiplied by four. This gives the average of all the riders points over an equivalent of fours rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) The table showing Prem averages only show Prem meetings and if you look at the number of rides it includes heat 15, ie Jason 9 meetings 44 rides, it also shows the 2017 averages which is what I assume they are going to use for the new 42 point team limit. Prior to last night the team average was 38.5 so we have approx 3.5 plus the average of whoever is going available. Edited June 16, 2017 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just beat you to it the Steve! Beaten by a minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Ages as far as I'm aware. Have a look at the official scorecard on the bspa site, only states 4 rides, also it's why the max average is 12... As others have said, it's an average. Points/Rides x 4. Heat 15 being included is one reason that top riders have averages so much lower than they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 These are my averages after last night: Jason Doyle (9.75) Nick Morris (8.98) David Bellego (7.35) Adam Ellis (3.80) Zach Wajtknecht (3.43) Bradley Wilson-Dean (3.38) Dany Gappmaier (2.80) 39.49 The only question is whether Dany will get a new average having ridden only two meetings or whether he will stay on 4 or get a new converted average. Makes no difference either way if he is the one to be replaced. Correct, the official figures have just been updated on the bspa website. This gives the team 2.51 points spare, added to say 2.80 gives 5.31 points available for a replacement, or if 3.80 it gives 6.31 available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Ages as far as I'm aware. Have a look at the official scorecard on the bspa site, only states 4 rides, also it's why the max average is 12... they always worked out the same .the points per heat divided by 4 ..if someone scored 10 from 5 his average would 8 4 x 2 for example ..i am shocked you never knew that . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Who are the teams in the yet to be rearranged National league fours.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 If I knew that I'd win the lottery this weekend!. It was nice to meet you last night sid, a fellow gooner that knows his speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 they always worked out the same .the points per heat divided by 4 ..if someone scored 10 from 5 his average would 8 4 x 2 for example ..i am shocked you never knew that .it amazes me how often people post this about ht15 and how little many speedway fans understand about averages 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 it amazes me how often people post this about ht15 and how little many speedway fans understand about averages well you expect most on here to be up to speed on these things but there are a fair number of fans just go to watch the racing and don't worry about averages or rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Posing is on 4.69. Maybe you were looking at the average with BP? No I realise Porting has a lower average than tungate, but a straight swap still possible just as tungate can be brought in as a straight swap for Gappmaier as it still fits under 42 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 No I realise Porting has a lower average than tungate, but a straight swap still possible just as tungate can be brought in as a straight swap for Gappmaier as it still fits under 42 points. Just looking at King's Lynn. It's not clear what average Simon Lambert will be on. It looks like he is in the declared side and on 3.00 but has only had one meeting with an average of 5.60 but in on 3.00. These are the averages on the BSPA site R. Lambert 7.91 Batchelor 7.91 Holder 6.82 Huckenbeck 5.95 Rose 5.67 Porsing 4.69 S. Lambert 5.60 (3.00?) Even with S.Lambert on 3.00 it still comes to 41.95. Tungate on 5.09 instead of Porsing it comes to 42.35. Are these the correct averages? Josh Bailey (2.00) is not listed in the 1-7 on the declarations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Sorry I had actually assumed with lambert injured Lynn would bring back Bailey and that is how tungate fitted. My mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Sorry I had actually assumed with lambert injured Lynn would bring back Bailey and that is how tungate fitted. My mistake I don't know the ins and outs of what is going on at King's Lynn regarding Lambert/Bailey or any injuries so just went of what is on the website. With Bailey in they can fit in Tungate, but I don't know if that is likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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