Daniel Smith Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Swindon would be mad not too get Doyle in. Coming back from injury would see his average at the 1st greensheets drop to about 7 as he tries to get back in the swing. This meaning you can sack a reserve and bring in another heatleader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Most riders are going to drop their averages. Doyle Holder Iversen because of the highest of their averages, others because they are suddenly racing against the likes of the aforementioned. Can see a lot of teams redeclaring just before end of July and getting in some of the riders who don't want a full season here or moving out their lower points riders and upgrading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Swindon would be mad not too get Doyle in. Coming back from injury would see his average at the 1st greensheets drop to about 7 as he tries to get back in the swing. This meaning you can sack a reserve and bring in another heatleader More chance of me going out with Jennifer Aniston than Jason dropping to a 7 point average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 More chance of me going out with Jennifer Aniston than Jason dropping to a 7 point average. Let me know where you will be going on your date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Swindon would be mad not too get Doyle in. Coming back from injury would see his average at the 1st greensheets drop to about 7 as he tries to get back in the swing. This meaning you can sack a reserve and bring in another heatleader How will Doyle's average drop? In a watered down SGB Elite Premierrubbish whatever league he will average well over 10, which means 14+ for team building purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 How will Doyle's average drop? In a watered down SGB Elite Premierrubbish whatever league he will average well over 10, which means 14+ for team building purposes. Coming back from injury could really hamper his scoring ability for a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 All teams averages are going to move towards 43 or 44 with the ones doing well a bit more and the ones struggling a bit lower. Those are what points on offer in a meeting. So redeclare and get the likes of Kildemand in to replace Neilsen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 How will Doyle's average drop? In a watered down SGB Elite Premierrubbish whatever league he will average well over 10, which means 14+ for team building purposes. After the injuries he's sustained no way will he come back smashing 10+ scores each meeting. Absolutely no chance. Not just physically but mentally he's got to get back into the swing of racing as he won't be getting much racing over the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 After the injuries he's sustained no way will he come back smashing 10+ scores each meeting. Absolutely no chance. Not just physically but mentally he's got to get back into the swing of racing as he won't be getting much racing over the winter. He has overcome other injuries in his career including the broken neck last year. He'll be fine but getting 6 others with 37 points is going to be bloody hard. Let me know where you will be going on your date Do you want me to see if Lisa or Courtney fancy a double date😀😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzum Posted November 3, 2016 Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 Has been said on other thread but Klindt, Jacobs, Bates and Clegg have very attractive PL averages compared to what would have been their converted EL averages. Using these or maybe T Kurtz, Ayres, Branford or even JPB at bottom of the team would allow 2 or 3 6-7 point riders until we get the average drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I think it's a cunning move to relocate the Robins to Somerset until the new stadium is finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 If those two lineups MattK has suggested are typical of next years Premiercrap then I think my longstanding attendance of this once great sport will be over, insulting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 How will Doyle's average drop? In a watered down SGB Elite Premierrubbish whatever league he will average well over 10, which means 14+ for team building purposes. I don't see why it would be 14+ once he attains a proper average. He should drop from 14 to around 10 with the first set of averages, which would give Swindon some points to play with. We will have a very weak bottom end, but we need Jason for crowd levels to be sustained from the off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I don't see why it would be 14+ once he attains a proper average. He should drop from 14 to around 10 with the first set of averages, which would give Swindon some points to play with. We will have a very weak bottom end, but we need Jason for crowd levels to be sustained from the off. Jason will not be averaging 10 per meeting, having come back from an injury, he might up his average after one or two months, think about it !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miadfa8 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 This is from Chris louis on the Ipswich website that clears up how converted averages will work: The former two-times British champion believes the new ‘one average’ based on Premier League figures brings a common ground between the two leagues. “It brings a commonality in terms of team building in both leagues and then the conversion figure will be adjusted in May when they are both up and running and we can see what it is. It was a team building formula and its simple and it works and that’s why they are going to Premier League averages so that everything is done the same way. “It had to be done because the previous Elite League format had confused the averages and they needed to fall in line with Premier League averages. Furthermore, the base average is now two as opposed to three and the number seven rider has to be British but does not have to be a two pointer in our league.” The current Sky Sports pundit is also pleased that team changes will not be permitted after July 31 saying the new system is more in line with other sports. “What Poole did at the end of the season didn’t look morally right and what Peterborough did in a bid to make the play-offs didn’t look right to me. Had they (Peterborough) have made the play-offs and then succeeded and did well, that wasn’t the team that had got them there and done well. We’re trying to make that fairer and other sports do it with transfer windows so I’m happy with that change.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I don't see why it would be 14+ once he attains a proper average. He should drop from 14 to around 10 with the first set of averages, which would give Swindon some points to play with. We will have a very weak bottom end, but we need Jason for crowd levels to be sustained from the off. All teams would be in the same boat though, with seven or eight points to pay with. They well either drop the team building limit to 42 after the first set of greensheets or more likely retain the 1.4 multiplier for team building purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 All teams averages are going to move towards 43 or 44 with the ones doing well a bit more and the ones struggling a bit lower. Those are what points on offer in a meeting. So redeclare and get the likes of Kildemand in to replace Neilsen. I'm assuming people like Zengota, Kildemand etc with only an EL average will also be subject to the 1.4 conversion? Am I assuming incorrectly? So, if they are not in an initial declaration then it practically freezes them out from being introduced further into the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I'm assuming people like Zengota, Kildemand etc with only an EL average will also be subject to the 1.4 conversion? Am I assuming incorrectly? So, if they are not in an initial declaration then it practically freezes them out from being introduced further into the season I also assume they will be subject to the confession, but they won't be frozen out, as the points limit will be 50 for the whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 I also assume they will be subject to the confession, but they won't be frozen out, as the points limit will be 50 for the whole season. If it's 50 for the full season then I can see that.....I thought (again possibly a wrong assumption) that the points limit would drop after 1st set of greensheets once every rider has a correct Premiership & Championship average that could be used for the rest of the season....I guess we'll find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miadfa8 Posted November 4, 2016 Report Share Posted November 4, 2016 If it's 50 for the full season then I can see that.....I thought (again possibly a wrong assumption) that the points limit would drop after 1st set of greensheets once every rider has a correct Premiership & Championship average that could be used for the rest of the season....I guess we'll find out Please see my post no 195. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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