LisaColette Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 The decision to not fully televise the Belle Vue vs Lakeside match was taken last week and was made by a combination of a technical difficulty and that its expected to be a large home win. It will also allow better and more in depth coverage of the Wolves vs Poole meeting. Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 why would they prefer a rider comin bk from a bad injury over a rider top of the gp . and in form and a small track specialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 (edited) Cook had a Polish superman lined up. Utter BS. We could gain home track advantage with 6 riders (inc. 1 x NL). Utter BS. Jon Cook is an utterly DIRE Speedway Promoter. As I said a week ago, Lakeside are simply 'cannon fodder' to opposition. Please do the decent thing Mr. Cook and just GO! As Eastbourne Manager, Lakeside Promoter, and your involvement/tenure with the BSPA as Vice-Chairman, you've been an UTTER abject FAILURE and an embarrassment. Edited September 22, 2016 by The Voice Of Reason 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 So who does any Hammers fan think would have scored than R/R did for AJ tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackie Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Only Lakeside would go into a play meeting with R/R at no 1. Reading did in 2006 as well up against Swindon, we still won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 apart from a few sports sky are trimming costs,sometimes quite drastically,new customers are hard to find simply because everybody who wants sky has already got it,theres also now significant competition from other providers and existing subsribers are getting p****d off with regular price hikes,so the bv match will be a single camera shot saving a load of dosh Not forgetting those who decide not to pay for it and "steal" it using apps like Kodi Because Jon Cook thinks he knows more than the trackstaff. There has been good racing all season when he didn't interfere, now he puts his oar in and this happens. Inexcusable. Even more inenexcusable because he has interefered in the past and the team have suffered because of it. Well done to Belle Vue though. Good team, good TM , kept the same 1-7 all season and didn't cheat . Especially well done to Scott who well and truly rolled the years back. Well done to Lakeside as well though, after the Speedwáy Star pundits predicted a 7th place finish and most forum experts were saying 6th/7th place , so overall the team did better than most people thought. Scott would be a good signing for Lakeside next year as he hasn't really got to grips with the NSS. The decision to not fully televise the Belle Vue vs Lakeside match was taken last week and was made by a combination of a technical difficulty and that its expected to be a large home win. It will also allow better and more in depth coverage of the Wolves vs Poole meeting. It will be better than the Belle Vue vs Poole on BH Monday What technical difficulty is that? All the years that sky have been showing the playoffs they have never had this technical difficulty - it's a money saving stunt - no more no less! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Iam surprised Nicholls has never ridden for Lakeside before he has always done well except the odd bad meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 This went totally as expected. The track was dire, probably the worse in the county, that bad. Always favours the inside gate and generates handicap races.. To go without a No1 was short-sighted. I'm sure they could have found someone. Nichol was superb and showed the way to has to be ridden. The worrying thing for Lakeside, it that at the NSS, BV will have 7 riders next time....... NB. Is the exclusion rule of Zagar the same in all countries, I got the impression he didn't realise he'd done wrong. A ridiculous rule brought in to speed the process up, but when used it slows the meeting down by far more......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I know the track is not everyone's cup of tea and that is fair enough but I've seen some good racing this year but Iam still struggling to understand why it was prepared like that!! Nilsson, Kennett and to a lesser extent Bridger have been flying of late and they all struggled. Iam not even sure if AJ was fit he would have done much on it. What is the point of using R/R because the team is full of home track specialists then not preparing it like they have all season so all the specialists struggled lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Well unfortunately this was always on the cards, surely a guest was the best option, can't understand how they thought r/r would work, Nicholls is excellent there, Richie Worrall rode there. I thought with luck they could at least win by 4-6 and make it remotely interesting but not a chance they couldnt even beat a reserve in heat 13! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Not forgetting those who decide not to pay for it and "steal" it using apps like Kodi Scott would be a good signing for Lakeside next year as he hasn't really got to grips with the NSS. What technical difficulty is that? All the years that sky have been showing the playoffs they have never had this technical difficulty - it's a money saving stunt - no more no less! I agree,short changing speedway fans after paying to watch speedway all year then they don't show a leg in the play off semi finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 The decision to not fully televise the Belle Vue vs Lakeside match was taken last week and was made by a combination of a technical difficulty and that its expected to be a large home win. It will also allow better and more in depth coverage of the Wolves vs Poole meeting. It will be better than the Belle Vue vs Poole on BH Monday So what exactly will be shown? Just a few heats delayed not live? Will we still have big screen to watch other semi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejigger Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 What bright spark at Lakeside gave Nicholls a golden opportunity to practice last week ? Other guests were available who were not lining up against Lakeside last night. Seems the management were relying on just doctoring the d shape to win them through. Only KK can save them now at BV ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I like that people are moaning about Lakeside using R/R yet don't come up with a rider suitable. There wasnt any that's why. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 NB. Is the exclusion rule of Zagar the same in all countries, I got the impression he didn't realise he'd done wrong. A ridiculous rule brought in to speed the process up, but when used it slows the meeting down by far more......... Errr, no....the rule actually does speed the process up, (it prevents rides leaving the track). It is when the rule is broken that the delays occur - as is the case when most rules are broken ! And no, the rules are not the same in all countries, or events for that matter, something which most riders and managers should be aware of really, after all they are professionals making a living from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueherb777 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 What I find funny is that the Aces had TWO riders who scored 0 (nought,none)........ yet still WON by 8 points. Good old R/R for the No 1 Rider ...... Classic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofers Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Correct me if I am wrong, but the options for No 1 instead of R/R realistically were - KK, Harris, King, Klindt, Batchelor, Lambert, Hougard, Tungate and Morris - which of these would have "guaranteed" more than 6 points ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Correct me if I am wrong, but the options for No 1 instead of R/R realistically were - KK, Harris, King, Klindt, Batchelor, Lambert, Hougard, Tungate and Morris - which of these would have "guaranteed" more than 6 points ?KK wasn't available and King was working for Sky. I wouldn't have taken any of the others available. Think most Lakeside fans were hoping for a signing from abroad, Hancock was the dream lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 This went totally as expected. The track was dire, probably the worse in the county, that bad. Always favours the inside gate and generates handicap races.. To go without a No1 was short-sighted. I'm sure they could have found someone. Nichol was superb and showed the way to has to be ridden. The worrying thing for Lakeside, it that at the NSS, BV will have 7 riders next time....... NB. Is the exclusion rule of Zagar the same in all countries, I got the impression he didn't realise he'd done wrong. A ridiculous rule brought in to speed the process up, but when used it slows the meeting down by far more......... I am not singling you out but I am amazed so many make this comment without doing some research first. There was no-one. The rule you speak of applies just in the UK but Zagar should have known as he has been riding here all season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I know the track is not everyone's cup of tea and that is fair enough but I've seen some good racing this year but Iam still struggling to understand why it was prepared like that!! Nilsson, Kennett and to a lesser extent Bridger have been flying of late and they all struggled. Iam not even sure if AJ was fit he would have done much on it. What is the point of using R/R because the team is full of home track specialists then not preparing it like they have all season so all the specialists struggled lol. The blame lays firmly at Jon Cooks door. At the fans forum in February, Kelvin said he wanted the track to be prepared the same way for every meeting, as far as the weather allows, at not to keep changing things, that's the way riders get used to a track and learn how to ride it with confidence. Jon Cook was sitting next to him when he said it. That's what has been done most of the season and we have seen some great racing this year. Then we get to the most meeting of the season, in front of a TV audience and the local MP , Kelvin is missing, Cook is in charge and we get that pile of sludge, because the tried and tested method that worked so well all season has not been followed. As a result we saw, for example Kennett and Bridger not being able to pull off those sweeps round the outside that have brought so many points this year. I support Jon Cook on most things, most of the time but he is the man in charge, the buck stops with him, and he has fouled up big time. Personally I am furious. I need the winter to calm down. As I feel at the moment I might consider the Rye House option next year, but we'll see what the winter brings. Cook is not my favourite person right now though. Correct me if I am wrong, but the options for No 1 instead of R/R realistically were - KK, Harris, King, Klindt, Batchelor, Lambert, Hougard, Tungate and Morris - which of these would have "guaranteed" more than 6 points ? KK would likely have hit double figures but he was apparently booked to ride in Poland. King was asked but wanted to take up Sky's offer. The others mention probably couldn't be guaranteed to score more than six between them. Based on past performances Hougaard might have done, Morris might have done but no guarantee , far from it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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