Poole V Wolverhampton. El Playoff Semi Final 1st Leg 21/9/16

[E I Addio]

Bjarne was badly exposed this evening. For those that say it is ridiculous to have an ex gp rider at reserve, tonight shows why he was there. He has no speed any more and is living on his gating.

Pedersen is a disgrace. The reserve slot is for EDR riders to learn their trade, not for over-the-hill Danes to trundle round looking for easy money for their pension fund. Fortunately he will be off to the knackers yard at the end of the season. Not before time either.

[Pinny]

Pedersen is a disgrace. The reserve slot is for EDR riders to learn their trade, not for over-the-hill Danes to trundle round looking for easy money for their pension fund. Fortunately he will be off to the knackers yard at the end of the season. Not before time either.

What are your thoughts on PK having a spell at reserve for Wolves, a rider youve stated your fond of? The edr wasnt designed for over the hill Swedes to top up their pension funds, either.

 

Can see Bjarne being PL next season, a good number one for somebody for sure

[Col]

Wolves need their Clegg to have a good meeting on Monday to make the final, it is a good mix. Wolves strength is 3, 4, 5. Poole strength is 1, 2, 6, 7. Howarth IMO has been a disappointment for Wolves this year at reserve but a couple of crucial passes tonight, to keep the meeting close.

[BWitcher]

Just back from Poole after finally enjoying my first meeting of the season.

 

I'd said beforehand that the maximum Wolves could give up was eight to have a realistic chance of progression, twelve I feel will prove too much.

 

Good night's racing but boy oh boy did Wolves just hand things on a plate too Poole.

 

I've long said speedway riders aren't the brightest, but tonight was taking it to new levels. I also have no idea what the team manager was doing and why he wasn't pointing out the bleedin obvious.

 

Time and again Wolves riders would hit the front, time and again they would decide to enter turn 1 out wide leaving a gaping hole for Messrs Holder and Lindback to drive through. Thorssell did it, Masters did it, Lindgren did it in Heat 15. I thought Lindgren had learned from the earlier cock ups as he entered turn 1 tight on the first two laps, keeping Holder comfortably at bay... only for lap three for him to basically just pull over and wave Holder through. Holder was fast, but effectively gifted a maximum as three times he was given a gaping hole to pass.

 

Rider of the night was Newman, he pulled off a superb pass on Howarth in the second reserves race, Howarth was actually riding the track correctly, entering turn one tight and drifting out to block the outside run and pick up drive but Newman executed an excellent cut back.

 

Woffinden paid the price for trying to team ride Howarth home in his first race and in his second was caught by a superb inside move from Lindback, who was the first rider to show the inside line could work. He caught Thorsell and briefly got ahead of him but after repassing Thorssell did show a speedway brain by switching lines and riding tight into turn one on the final lap to prevent Lindback from coming through... something as stated he forgot to do later on.

 

As for the 2nd leg, Wolves would need absolutely everything to go their way and Holder and one of the Poole reserves to have something off an off night to stand a chance.

[Pirates Of Poole]

If Bjarne was feeling so unwell why did Middlo let him ride? R/R would have been fine.

[Wolfsbane]

Just back from Poole after finally enjoying my first meeting of the season.

 

I'd said beforehand that the maximum Wolves could give up was eight to have a realistic chance of progression, twelve I feel will prove too much.

 

Good night's racing but boy oh boy did Wolves just hand things on a plate too Poole.

 

I've long said speedway riders aren't the brightest, but tonight was taking it to new levels. I also have no idea what the team manager was doing and why he wasn't pointing out the bleedin obvious.

 

Time and again Wolves riders would hit the front, time and again they would decide to enter turn 1 out wide leaving a gaping hole for Messrs Holder and Lindback to drive through. Thorssell did it, Masters did it, Lindgren did it in Heat 15. I thought Lindgren had learned from the earlier cock ups as he entered turn 1 tight on the first two laps, keeping Holder comfortably at bay... only for lap three for him to basically just pull over and wave Holder through. Holder was fast, but effectively gifted a maximum as three times he was given a gaping hole to pass.

 

Rider of the night was Newman, he pulled off a superb pass on Howarth in the second reserves race, Howarth was actually riding the track correctly, entering turn one tight and drifting out to block the outside run and pick up drive but Newman executed an excellent cut back.

 

Woffinden paid the price for trying to team ride Howarth home in his first race and in his second was caught by a superb inside move from Lindback, who was the first rider to show the inside line could work. He caught Thorsell and briefly got ahead of him but after repassing Thorssell did show a speedway brain by switching lines and riding tight into turn one on the final lap to prevent Lindback from coming through... something as stated he forgot to do later on.

 

As for the 2nd leg, Wolves would need absolutely everything to go their way and Holder and one of the Poole reserves to have something off an off night to stand a chance.

Looks like next year then BW

[foreverblue]

If Bjarne was feeling so unwell why did Middlo let him ride? R/R would have been fine.

Hope Bjarne is better by monday.

[chris4gillian]

The stalker continues to stalk me. The thing is its boring to everyone on here. Chris4gavan, no one cares. Your boring, obtuse coments just waste bandwidth and drag the forum down to the depth that PILLOCK Gavan trolled to. You didn't see just how much dislike a majority of us had for Gavan. Calling him a pillock was about the kindest words I could use. Others used far harsher language but funnily enough you go after me for calling him a pillock? Good god man get a life!

 

I will certainly look out for you tonight. I know exactly what you look like through your facebook page which you so kindly helped everyone find a few weeks ago through telling everyone to Google you.

 

Now bore off and bother someone else.

 

You can't help yourself can you? I don't think you're far behind Gavan in the dislike stakes and you certainly won't bully me off this forum like you feel you did with him. You most definitely are a control freak who doesn't like it when you're not the top dog. Oh and you post far more abuse than myself and the vast majority of this forum, you have done for years.

 

So you facebook stalk me and hunt for me at Poole week after week and you call me a stalker? I have nothing to hide, never have and never will. So you need to get the life fella.

 

 

Now back to the meeting which was a thoroughly enjoyable affair and we have given ourselves every chance of making the final. We need Bjarne to step up on Monday and chip in with half a dozen points or so as he seems to be the concern. If the rest of the boys perform as they did tonight then a Poole v BV Final is quite a mouth watering prospect! (Assuming Lakeside don' perform a miracle at the NSS).

Edited September 22, 2016 by chris4gillian

[superguest]

Enjoyable nights racing. Poole will be happy with the score. Impressed with Holder & for Wolves Jacob was always in the mix.

 

We haven't looked that good at home due to our heatleaders being a bit iffy (as you saw lastnight). Its pretty much over as a contest. No lack of effort given, just beaten by a better team.

Edited September 22, 2016 by superguest

[BurntFaceMan]

Cracker of a meeting! A 12 point lead should feel rather comfy, but can't help but feel the momentum will go just as much the Wolves way at home as it has for us!

 

I can't imagine Lindback firing at Wolverhampton considering how out of depth he seemed at Poole tonight with his return to British tracks. His top level racing experience helped clinch him some important points, but I don't think he will be able to match the scoring power of Woffinden who I feel will much more easily slip into the groove at the familiar Monmore Green.

[2ndbendbeerhut]

What's with Holder and his terrific form at the moment? Must be an Aussie thing as Doyle super quick too.... hence why Woffy not?

[Steve Shovlar]

You can't help yourself can you? I don't think you're far behind Gavan in the dislike stakes and you certainly won't bully me off this forum like you feel you did with him. You most definitely are a control freak who doesn't like it when you're not the top dog. Oh and you post far more abuse than myself and the vast majority of this forum, you have done for years.

 

So you facebook stalk me and hunt for me at Poole week after week and you call me a stalker? I have nothing to hide, never have and never will. So you need to get the life fella.

Bully Gavan off the forum? Get with it. I had the guy on block and never replied to his trolling posts. Others gave the guy the truth about his stinking attitude on here on numerous occassions, which he finally realised made himself look the pillock he was.

 

Only you seemed to think the way he was carrying on was acceptable. No wonder people thought you were one and the same.

What's with Holder and his terrific form at the moment? Must be an Aussie thing as Doyle super quick too.... hence why Woffy not?

He has returned to the form he had of 2012. This is the Chris Holder that has been missing for a couple of seasons, with serious injury and also the injury to his mate which affected him. Seems he has put it behind him and the last coulle of months has been riping it up.

[chris4gillian]

Bully Gavan off the forum? Get with it. I had the guy on block and never replied to his trolling posts. Others gave the guy the truth about his stinking attitude on here on numerous occassions, which he finally realised made himself look the pillock he was.

 

Only you seemed to think the way he was carrying on was acceptable. No wonder people thought you were one and the same.

 

I never once said he was acceptable, I said I had no beef with him. We had many a discussion without any abuse. You in particular were deliberately goading him for weeks on end and you got what you wanted. So yes, you did bully him off the forum.

 

Now move on and STOP stalking me on here, on Facebook and at Poole.

What's with Holder and his terrific form at the moment? Must be an Aussie thing as Doyle super quick too.... hence why Woffy not?

 

Because he's British for Gawd's sake!

[Steve Shovlar]

 

Now move on and STOP stalking me on here, on Facebook and at Poole.

Stalking you? I rarely if ever reply to any of your posts! You seem to have a fixation with me and mention me in virtually every post you make!

 

All very weird.

[speedibee]

I don't know. SCB thought Holder jumped it, I thought Masters did! Maybe Lindgren didn't like Holder's position at the gate?

Holder jumped it . plain as day on Tv

[Woz01]

I think Wolves can claw those 12 points back, the 2nd leg will go to the wire.

[BurntFaceMan]

 

I never once said he was acceptable, I said I had no beef with him. We had many a discussion without any abuse. You in particular were deliberately goading him for weeks on end and you got what you wanted. So yes, you did bully him off the forum.

 

Now move on and STOP stalking me on here, on Facebook and at Poole.

 

Because he's British for Gawd's sake!

 

 

Stalking you? I rarely if ever reply to any of your posts! You seem to have a fixation with me and mention me in virtually every post you make!

 

All very weird.

 

Hey guys,

 

Hope you don't mind me intruding, but I've actually put together a little thread for you lot to argue in!

 

http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=82792

 

It's made specifically for Chris4Gillian, SteveShovlar and Gavan, should he return. Don't get me wrong though, anybody is welcome to join in! We can all be nasty to each other, massage each others egos, split hairs amongst eachother... it's a free for all.

 

Thing is it's getting really annoying having to flick through 20 pages of sh1te to find the 6 decent pages and most of us really just want to chat about speedway... so if you wouldn't mind transferring the argument over there?

[E I Addio]

What are your thoughts on PK having a spell at reserve for Wolves, a rider youve stated your fond of? The edr wasnt designed for over the hill Swedes to top up their pension funds, either.

Can see Bjarne being PL next season, a good number one for somebody for sure

The EDR is a shambles from start to finish. I accept it is necessary to save costs, and it has had some resounding successes notably Steve Worrall, but overall it has not been properly thought through and some promoters acknowledge that, others are quite happy because it has been stitched up to their advantage.

 

I thought it highlighted the ill thought out system when PK went to reserve, but at least PK wasn't there long and has otherwise managed to do the bona fide second string role he was brought in to do. By contrast Bjarne spending such a long time not only brought into focus the glaring inadequacies of the system, which amongst other things allowed Poole to retain Newman as an EDR rider,

but it also meant that Bjarne himself was content to wobble around using his experience to get out of the gate ahead of relatively inexperienced youngsters, with very little desire or incentive to get into the 1-5.

 

We can have a whole separate discussion about the inadequacies of the EDR scheme, but basically I think the public woukd get behind riders like Max Clegg and other British youngsters doing a job at reserve but we don't pay good money to see the likes of Pedersen in that role for an extended period gradually knocking up a six point average the easy way. The bottom line is that it's cheating the paying public.

Edited September 22, 2016 by E I Addio

[Pob]

Bully Gavan off the forum? Get with it. I had the guy on block and never replied to his trolling posts. Others gave the guy the truth about his stinking attitude on here on numerous occassions, which he finally realised made himself look the pillock he was.

 

Only you seemed to think the way he was carrying on was acceptable. No wonder people thought you were one and the same.

 

He has returned to the form he had of 2012. This is the Chris Holder that has been missing for a couple of seasons, with serious injury and also the injury to his mate which affected him. Seems he has put it behind him and the last coulle of months has been riping it up.

 

Putting himself in the shop window for next season ? Has really got going in the past month

[Odds On]

I wonder if they did drug testing and machinery testing at Poole last night?