Wessex Wanderer Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Good appointment. Great knowledge of Speedway and one who really cares about the sport, not just one team or just his own position. Congratulations Neil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) A good man Neil like him alot respect him he has done a great job with the youth set up.But he is not right for this job british speedway is dying a slow death. Why did AJ come in on a 9.05 average yet Lindback comes in on a 7 point average.? Edited September 16, 2016 by Sidney the robin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) A good man Neil like him alot respect him he has done a great job with the youth set up.But he is not right for this job british speedway is dying a slow death. Why did AJ come in on a 9.05 average yet Lindback comes in on a 7 point average.? It will be interesting to see if anything changes within the SCB going forward but unfortunately the BSPA just continue to make one unbelievable decision after another. Who on earth made the decision to assess one of the current best riders in the world from 7.94 to 7.00, when their own rules set a precedent of 8.00. Good television it will undoubtably be with sky rubbing it's hands but it's quite amazing that the sport continues to make itself look completely incompetent yet again and adds fuel to the fire of its many critics. Edited September 16, 2016 by bigcatdiary 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 It will be interesting to see if anything changes within the SCB going forward but unfortunately the BSPA just continue to make one unbelievable decision after another. Who on earth made the decision to assess one of the current best riders in the world from 7.94 to 7.00, when their own rules set a precedent of 8.00. Good television it will undoubtably be with sky rubbing it's hands but it's quite amazing that the sport continues to make itself look completely incompetent yet again and adds fuel to the fire of its many critics. The Richard Hall decision a man trying to make a living for himself and the Judgement of Lindback's average how can the sport be taken seriously.Ford i dont blame him he has done nothing wrong at all it is the rules in place that should be scrapped and start again with a blank page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 Nice one Neil Vatcher got a lot of time for Neil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 He'll probably downgrade him to a 6 pointer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 It's more than just cause it's leagle ,(Christ I'm banging my head against a brick wall )the issue in all this is how it's gets to this point , he achieves an average and that should be the end of it no ifs no buts it's an average and that's what he comes in at but in speedway that doesn't matter anymore cause he hasn't rode here for years , so what? That's his average , no grey areas that's it , the whole system is flawed and open to abuse , it's pathetic and that's what needs to be addressed and that will never happen while the same old faces and their sympathisers self rule , can't anybody within speedway see what all this crap is doing to the credibility of speedway ? I will enlighten you , it's killing it, I like Neil , he is a good man and he is exactly the person that the SCB "want" I can understand an average reduction for a rider who has been out of speedway for a considerable time for whatever reason. But for a rider who has continued to compete at the highest level just because he hasn't ridden in the EL ? No chance. It will be interesting to see if anything changes within the SCB going forward but unfortunately the BSPA just continue to make one unbelievable decision after another. Who on earth made the decision to assess one of the current best riders in the world from 7.94 to 7.00, when their own rules set a precedent of 8.00. Good television it will undoubtably be with sky rubbing it's hands but it's quite amazing that the sport continues to make itself look completely incompetent yet again and adds fuel to the fire of its many critics. That's one of the real problems, because no-one ever puts a name to the decision maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) I can understand an average reduction for a rider who has been out of speedway for a considerable time for whatever reason. But for a rider who has continued to compete at the highest level just because he hasn't ridden in the EL ? No chance. That's one of the real problems, because no-one ever puts a name to the decision maker. But at the end of the day, Tai or Lindback averages has got sod all to do with the fine appointment of Neil Vacher to his new position. Indeed, noone seems to be against his appointment, and acknowledge his considerable involvement from the tools to senior appointments and now Chief Officer. Instead we are discussing issues that had nowt to do with him. Oh Dear. Edited September 18, 2016 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 It's more than just cause it's leagle ,(Christ I'm banging my head against a brick wall )the issue in all this is how it's gets to this point , he achieves an average and that should be the end of it no ifs no buts it's an average and that's what he comes in at but in speedway that doesn't matter anymore cause he hasn't rode here for years , so what? That's his average , no grey areas that's it , the whole system is flawed and open to abuse , it's pathetic and that's what needs to be addressed and that will never happen while the same old faces and their sympathisers self rule , can't anybody within speedway see what all this crap is doing to the credibility of speedway ? I will enlighten you , it's killing it, I like Neil , he is a good man and he is exactly the person that the SCB "want"In Sweden your avg is erased after two years of not riding. Back to assessed after that. I was actually going to apply, but it's a sidejob so had no chance of making it work. So did not apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Maybe the speedway star could give Jim McGregor a chance to tell his side and why he turned the job down , might be worth a read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I was actually going to apply, but it's a sidejob so had no chance of making it work. What kind of money were they offering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Maybe the speedway star could give Jim McGregor a chance to tell his side and why he turned the job down , might be worth a read Basically it is a full time job that was only offering part-time pay. Suspect that put some people off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Basically it is a full time job that was only offering part-time pay. Suspect that put some people off. if that were the case why not say that before final 6 and when you do withdraw why say because it was taking to long but whatever the reasons lets here them Edited September 22, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Who on earth made the decision to assess one of the current best riders in the world from 7.94 to 7.00, when their own rules set a precedent of 8.00. Will we ever get an answer to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Will we ever get an answer to this? IN Speedway Star this week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) What kind of money were they offering?Fixed lump sum with some added travel expenses. Not enough to move there, or if already there to live on with my small family. Enough info for me so didnt enquire more. I know the work basically sucks as it's your fault that speedway is in the state that it is, but it would have been great!!! Edited September 22, 2016 by f-s-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 It's because 5+ 9-2 divided by a sunny day in 2003 and any other rubbish that speedway can come up with because it's too simple just to have an average with no ifs no butts that is there in black and white that can not be disputed by anyone and everyone understands , it's needs to be complicated because it's speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 If anyone involved with Speedway cannot see thats its almost on its last legs, then they shouldnt be in Speedway.. whilst i dont know Neil and this is not aimed at him, this post should have been given to someone who has an objective view of the issues within Speedway, not to someone from within who sees the Sport from within its own time warp... WE simply have to make the Sport more affordable, we have to ensure the SKY money drifts down to the grass roots, and doesnt simply continue to subsidise poorly promoted Elite league Teams that are only Elite due to the SKY income.. the other major issue is attendances as i said earlier the cost has to be reduced so therefore admission prices can be reduced, Teenagers need to be enticed back through the turnstiles, look around you next time you visit any Track have a look how many under thirties or even under 40,s are there, reduced costs for families have to be considered... a nigh out for a family of four what will it cost ? the best part of £60+ how many families can afford that in there budget these days... not many i can tell you.. Im afraid to say but unless things change Neil will be presiding over the death throes of British Speedway, can anyone say hand on heart, British Speedway as we know it will be around in 10 years time, i doubt that i will, and neither will speedway in my opinion.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Maybe the speedway star could give Jim McGregor a chance to tell his side and why he turned the job down , might be worth a read Investigative journalism by the SS? Are you serious? Will we ever get an answer to this? IN Speedway Star this week... Once the SCB's press release has been copied and pasted in place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Who is Annie gibbons ?....sorry for ignorance about him Arnie !!...predictive text !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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