SteveLyric2 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Congratulations to Neil Vatcher for his appointment effective 1st October 2016. With other news today, all round a pretty good day for Poole!! :-) :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Congratulations to Neil Vatcher for his appointment effective 1st October 2016. With other news today, all round a pretty good day for Poole!! :-) :-) Oh good, it gets better. Congrate Neil. Poole look forward to working with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Clearly there were better candidates :wink: but a good appointment. Neil has done a tremendous job (given the limited resources and lack of facilities) with the youth development programme. However given the stuff I have been hearing, and the article in last week's Star about changing the role, the really interesting part will be his job description, and how much it differs from the one that the six candidates were interviewed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Clearly there were better candidates :wink: but a good appointment. Neil has done a tremendous job (given the limited resources and lack of facilities) with the youth development programme. He certainly has... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Did anybody on here or know of anybody who is not in the current speedway clique that applied for the job ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Did anybody on here or know of anybody who is not in the current speedway clique that applied for the job ? The six shortlisted candidates interviewed were: Jim MacGregor Margaret Vardy Dave Peet Neil Vatcher Paul Hurry Arnie Gibbons There was an ad in the Speedway Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) The six shortlisted candidates interviewed were: Jim MacGregor Margaret Vardy Dave Peet Neil Vatcher Paul Hurry Arnie Gibbons There was an ad in the Speedway Star ok the top 5 are all considered in the circle , were there any other candidates ? Edited September 15, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 ok the top 5 are all considered in the circle , were there any other candidates ? So why shouldn't it be from the 'circle'. The raft of referees was the natural place to get a successor and Jim McGregor was offered it but withdrew. Neil is a good choice, unless you know different. More conspiracy theories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyb Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Only hope is,that we have a non-biased person in charge who does the best to preserve Speedway in the uk ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 So why shouldn't it be from the 'circle'. The raft of referees was the natural place to get a successor and Jim McGregor was offered it but withdrew. Neil is a good choice, unless you know different. More conspiracy theories. I didn't say Neil was a bad choice , I just wanted to know if anybody from outside the current circle was put forward so get off your high horse and don't assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 ok the top 5 are all considered in the circle , were there any other candidates ? Are you saying Arnie Gibbons isn't in the circle? I'd have voted for you Arnie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So would I! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Congratulations to Neil Vatcher, a man I have a lot of respect for. Thank you too, to Graham Reeve, who in my opinion has been a master in that role. I wish him well for the future. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Good appointment - someone with the future of British Speedway very much at heart. All the best Rob 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So why shouldn't it be from the 'circle'. The raft of referees was the natural place to get a successor and Jim McGregor was offered it but withdrew. Neil is a good choice, unless you know different. More conspiracy theories. What we have got is someone who is experienced in speedway and it seems is well thought of. But, as Dean rightly says, he is from 'the circle'. Arnie is a man of integrity and a true speedway fan who is from outside it. To my mind, given the sustained and substantial criticism of BSPA & SCB decisions, he would have made a far more popular and credible choice with those who actually pay every week at the turnstiles and quite possibly might have at least tried to introduce the transparency that the sport needs. While I can see Neil Vatcher endorsing the signing of Antonio Lindback on a 7.00 point average to please Poole Speedway, I doubt very much that Arnie would. The only thing is I suspect Arnie wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes whereas Neil Vatcher will. So would I! Me too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 While I can see Neil Vatcher endorsing the signing of Antonio Lindback on a 7.00 point average to please Poole Speedway, I doubt very much that Arnie would. Which is why he would never have been the top choice. Shame as it's about time we had someone with integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) What we have got is someone who is experienced in speedway and it seems is well thought of. But, as Dean rightly says, he is from 'the circle'. I said he was, and that is where you would normally expect to get the replacement from. DEAN says that Neil isn't a bad choice so whats his complain. Just more knocking from DEAN as usual, and I don't have to sit on a high horse to see that. Arnie is a man of integrity and a true speedway fan who is from outside it. To my mind, given the sustained and substantial criticism of BSPA & SCB decisions, he would have made a far more popular and credible choice with those who actually pay every week at the turnstiles and quite possibly might have at least tried to introduce the transparency that the sport needs. While I can see Neil Vatcher endorsing the signing of Antonio Lindback on a 7.00 point average to please Poole Speedway, I doubt very much that Arnie would. The signing of Lindback is within the rules, just like the other signing of Tai for Wolves. Are you suggesting that the SCB should have appointed a guy(from outside the circle) who would have stopped a legal move and exercised his power regardless of the rules. That rather suggests that democracy and law-abiding in Speedway can be ignored by an individual. Surely that suggestion smacks at hypocrisy given the complaints of the BSPA, and rather blows the argument of an independent body or individual to oversee all matters in Speedway. You are really trying to endorse with the new guy what quite a number of posters on here regularly complain about the BSPA/SCB. The only thing is I suspect Arnie wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes whereas Neil Vatcher will. And if he tried to break the rules himself he shouldn't last 5 minutes either. Me too. Edited September 16, 2016 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Halifaxtiger Posted September 16, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 What we have got is someone who is experienced in speedway and it seems is well thought of. But, as Dean rightly says, he is from 'the circle'. I said he was, and that is where you would normally expect to get the replacement from. DEAN says that Neil isn't a bad choice so whats his complain. Just more knocking from DEAN as usual, and I don't have to sit on a high horse to see that. Arnie is a man of integrity and a true speedway fan who is from outside it. To my mind, given the sustained and substantial criticism of BSPA & SCB decisions, he would have made a far more popular and credible choice with those who actually pay every week at the turnstiles and quite possibly might have at least tried to introduce the transparency that the sport needs. While I can see Neil Vatcher endorsing the signing of Antonio Lindback on a 7.00 point average to please Poole Speedway, I doubt very much that Arnie would. The signing of Lindback is within the rules, just like the other signing of Tai for Wolves. Are you suggesting that the SCB should have appointed a guy(from outside the circle) who would have stopped a legal move and exercised his power regardless of the rules. That rather suggests that democracy and law-abiding in Speedway can be ignored by an individual. Surely that suggestion smacks at hypocrisy given the complaints of the BSPA, and rather blows the argument of an independent body or individual to oversee all matters in Speedway. You are really trying to endorse with the new guy what quite a number of posters on here regularly complain about the BSPA/SCB. The only thing is I suspect Arnie wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes whereas Neil Vatcher will. And if he tried to break the rules himself he shouldn't last 5 minutes either. Me too. I have only had the opportunity to speak at length with Dean on one occasion but found it an education. Lindback's signing is legal only if someone agrees that it can be reduced by about a point from when he last rode here, albeit some time ago. There are few who would doubt that he is a better rider now. He's currently 8th in the GP series, which makes him one of the world's best riders. Of those GP riders competing in the EL, only Harris has a lower average (and half the GP points) and the average of those riders averages is well above 8. Lindback is being assessed as the same standard as Cook, Thorssell, Buczkowski & Nilsson, riders who have never qualified for a permanent GP place. The signing is legal, but only because it is based upon a ruling that is wholly unjustifiable. As I say, I suspect Neil Vatcher would endorse that decision, Arnie would not (indeed, he has actually said it is wrong). I think Arnie would last 5 minutes. That's not because he would break rules, but because he would insist that BSPA & SCB stick to them. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) It's more than just cause it's leagle ,(Christ I'm banging my head against a brick wall )the issue in all this is how it's gets to this point , he achieves an average and that should be the end of it no ifs no buts it's an average and that's what he comes in at but in speedway that doesn't matter anymore cause he hasn't rode here for years , so what? That's his average , no grey areas that's it , the whole system is flawed and open to abuse , it's pathetic and that's what needs to be addressed and that will never happen while the same old faces and their sympathisers self rule , can't anybody within speedway see what all this crap is doing to the credibility of speedway ? I will enlighten you , it's killing it, I like Neil , he is a good man and he is exactly the person that the SCB "want" Edited September 16, 2016 by THE DEAN MACHINE 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Potter 2 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Wasn't Richard Hall told he would have to ride on his 2004 conference average, when he wanted to race in the National League earlier this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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