BWitcher Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 It's 100% clear. Andersen was not a long term injury and Poole have tried to claim that he was. They have deceived the BSPA. As such Lindback was ineligble. Ineligible riders points are deducted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well I have to be honest, I got sucked into believing Andersen's injury was season ending and gave Poole the benefit of the doubt as the injury was genuine. This is without question, a breaking of the rule. Disappointed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) In a properly ran sport there is always sanction against any team found retrospectively to have mis-led the League by requesting and ultimately receiving 'special dispensation' when they actually were not eligible to get it... A dim view of 'seeking to gain an unlawful advantage' is taken in virtually all properly ran sports... (Whether a 'genuine' mistake or not as 'ignorance is no defence') Thank goodness for Poole that this is Speedway and not a properly ran sport eh? Wouldn't surprise anyone if CVS headed up their defence case!!?😀😂 Edit: Just had a thought... Presuming today hasn't caused any aggravation to Hans' 'season ending (but only in Britain) injury' Could the Wolves promotion team now put a protest in tomorrow night against Lindback's inclusion based on it being 'unlawful'. Even though his inclusion was sanctioned by the Wolves promoter...?😂 And some people actually complain that the wider national press doesn't take the sport seriously...😂 Edited September 25, 2016 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Well I have to be honest, I got sucked into believing Andersen's injury was season ending and gave Poole the benefit of the doubt as the injury was genuine. This is without question, a breaking of the rule. Disappointed Me to, if Buster Chapman is serious about his Chairmanship of the BSPA then he must move to rule Poole`s team illegal. If the supporters can see then the rule makers should do to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 What a load of old guff from the usual anti Poole brigade! Poole are not better off with Lindback as he is likely to score less than Hands (see what I did there) around Monmore. Poole had to make a decision based on the facts of the time. Fricke had speared Andersen and caused a quite nasty hand injury. What were Poole actually meant to do? Go with guests and risk a Klindt moment? Or bring in an asset of the club in the hope he could match Andersens scoring? No cheating at all. And now Andersen has decided to try out his injury, unsuccessfully with 0,1,1,1. Clearly fit to ride. But not race. Anyway we can't revert even if we wanted to. The rules just do not allow it. We have to ride at Monmore with a rider who is not likely to trouble the scorers in any serious way, when we could have gone with Harris, (now booked by Lakeside) Wolves must be happy we played a straight bat with a like for like replacement rather than using guests who would have scored more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 What a load of old guff from the usual anti Poole brigade! Poole are not better off with Lindback as he is likely to score less than Hands (see what I did there) around Monmore. Poole had to make a decision based on the facts of the time. Fricke had speared Andersen and caused a quite nasty hand injury. What were Poole actually meant to do? Go with guests and risk a Klindt moment? Or bring in an asset of the club in the hope he could match Andersens scoring? No cheating at all. And now Andersen has decided to try out his injury, unsuccessfully with 0,1,1,1. Clearly fit to ride. But not race. Anyway we can't revert even if we wanted to. The rules just do not allow it. We have to ride at Monmore with a rider who is not likely to trouble the scorers in any serious way, when we could have gone with Harris, (now booked by Lakeside) Wolves must be happy we played a straight bat with a like for like replacement rather than using guests who would have scored more. Pure comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 the facts at the time where he wasnt a long term injury only ford and middlo said that because they used that as an excuse to strengthen the team if you carnt see that your more blinkered than stevie wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yep, points should be removed from Poole's first leg total, that's a given ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 What a load of old guff from the usual anti Poole brigade! Poole are not better off with Lindback as he is likely to score less than Hands (see what I did there) around Monmore. Poole had to make a decision based on the facts of the time. Fricke had speared Andersen and caused a quite nasty hand injury. What were Poole actually meant to do? Go with guests and risk a Klindt moment? Or bring in an asset of the club in the hope he could match Andersens scoring? No cheating at all. And now Andersen has decided to try out his injury, unsuccessfully with 0,1,1,1. Clearly fit to ride. But not race. Anyway we can't revert even if we wanted to. The rules just do not allow it. We have to ride at Monmore with a rider who is not likely to trouble the scorers in any serious way, when we could have gone with Harris, (now booked by Lakeside) Wolves must be happy we played a straight bat with a like for like replacement rather than using guests who would have scored more. :rofl: You miss the point (not unexpected for you) - whether Lindback strengthens you or not is irrelevant. Hans does not have a long term injury therefore, no injury replacement allowed, therefore points scored should be deducted and Hans should ride tomorrow! We all know nothing will happen but it doesn't change the fact that Poole are proven to be CHEATING SCUMBAGS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Do Swindon fans have nothing better to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 :rofl: You miss the point (not unexpected for you) - whether Lindback strengthens you or not is irrelevant. Hans does not have a long term injury therefore, no injury replacement allowed, therefore points scored should be deducted and Hans should ride tomorrow! We all know nothing will happen but it doesn't change the fact that Poole are proven to be CHEATING SCUMBAGS! He is atill suffering from his injury and wouldnt of rode monday we would have used a guest if we hadnt repllaced himYep, points should be removed from Poole's first leg total, that's a given .....Haha your funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) It's also irrelevant whether Hans had a reaction today or not. His injury was not long term. By not deducting Lindbacks points the BSPA are showing once again what a corrupt body they are. He is atill suffering from his injury and wouldnt of rode monday we would have used a guest if we hadnt repllaced him He may still be suffering. Many riders do. The fact is though, he hasn't suffered a long term injury. If you'd have gone with a guest, Andersen had rode today, declared himself unfit and you had another guest then fair enough. You didn't. You chose to embellish the injury, claim it was long term, even when the evidence (Andersen himself) had already shown it wasn't. As such you replaced him in contravention to the rules. Lindback was ineligbile. There is absolutely no argument against it, it's clear cut. Edited September 25, 2016 by BWitcher 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 It's also irrelevant whether Hans had a reaction today or not. His injury was not long term. By not deducting Lindbacks points the BSPA are showing once again what a corrupt body they are. His injury is long term he clearly should not have ridden today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 His injury is long term he clearly should not have ridden today Are you his doctor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) His injury is long term he clearly should not have ridden today Well he did. So he wasn't out of action long term. Edited September 25, 2016 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 His injury is long term he clearly should not have ridden today I`m sure his Polish club will have had Hans out practising this week by way of proving his fitness or not, by racing today that clearly shows his injury is not long term, so the BSPA should not have sanctioned the Lindback move in the first place though if Poole claimed the Anderson injury was long term and season ending you can understand why they did, now the BSPA should rule Lindback`s move to Poole illegal and enforce the rule as it stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dump that clutch Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 blimey, who'd have thought eh..!! Are we sure Matt Ford doesn't play the fiddle in the Bournemouth Orchestra... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 and we all slap our heads in disbelief, as if it wasnt going to happen . he does it year on year but whats so disapointing is that people like CVS give him backing time after time after time what does ford hold over these folk can they not see the damage they are doing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) MF and the BSPA making a mockery of the injury replacement rule. Poole have replaced their (non) long term injury rider so no way can that long term injured rider be allowed back because it suit them. 1If Poole want to bring back Hans then they should have the 5 points scored by his replacement (which shouldn't have been allowed) deducted from their score on Wednesday. Many questioned if Hans injury was long term/season ending and it seemed Hans then confirmed this on twitter with a picture of his injury so became believable but now deciding to ride again absolutely blows apart that statement and the replacement for a long term injury as a farce. Some Poole fans now are jittery because Lindback is in poor form. Such is life. Poole should have gone with guests , then there wouldn't be all this silly mess. When he posted the picture he suggested he could be back in a week! Hans has never said he wouldn't be back. Edited September 25, 2016 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Surprise surprise. Poole cheating again! And yet Steve and his barmy Poole army will still try and defend this one. Then again they did the same with North last year. Looks like Belle Vue and Wolves had them running scared which forced the change :D I'm sorry but that's rubbish. Hans had stated on social media several times that he would be back in time. At the same time Middlo was saying he was out for the season with a long term injury. Andersen always said it would only be a couple of weeks Umm, no he didn't! He said he wasn't sure when he would be back, he said it could be one week or three weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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