Starman2006 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Is it true that only two or three members are needed to rubber stamp a decision, say Chapman, Godfrey & Pratt? It's baffling isn't it. It's not just speedway though, politics, business and other sports have all had some strange decisions made throughout history and nobody can work out why. On an unrelated note is it true Poole get close to 4000 at £25 per head for a play off final? That's £100k. Nice. We didn't charge £25 last year, or the year before that nor the preivious 4 years. it was £20 Edited September 19, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 BUT why should someone on the MC, Chris van Straaten for example, try and help Poole who are Wolverhampton's opponents in the play-offs. That doesn't make sense. It makes good financial sense if it puts more on the attendances!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 BUT why should someone on the MC, Chris van Straaten for example, try and help Poole who are Wolverhampton's opponents in the play-offs. That doesn't make sense. Why would they help him with all these other rules that have gone in Poole favour over the years ..it's the question that keeps being asked ...no one can figure out why this keep's happening 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) Why would they help him with all these other rules that have gone in Poole favour over the years ..it's the question that keeps being asked ...no one can figure out why this keep's happening Whats up Orion. You sound very bitter. Must be because you've been shunted out of the play off's, again... Hang on, i can hear something ticking, must be Orions brain, working out what to say, its computerised !! Edited September 19, 2016 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Whats up Orion. You sound very bitter. Must be because you've been shunted out of the play off's, again... Hang on, i can hear something ticking, must be Orions brain, working out what to say, its computerised !! If only you had a brain to tick . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 If only you had a brain to tick . And it took you all that time to come up with that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 (edited) I'M the last person to ask about speedway's rulebook, but ... It's obviously legal if that's what MC decided on. As long as Lindback's average is below Andersen's then it's perfectly legal because there's a seven day window before the play off starts - only restriction is rider could not have ridden for another UK club this season. Poole enquired of the BSPA to provide an assessed average for Lindback. They came back with 7.00. And that was sanctioned by their own MC. It would be nice, of course, were the BSPA transparent and revealed how they came to that assessment but the fact that they haven't is hardly the fault of Poole and certainly doesn't, in my humble view, make them "cheating scumbags." If other tracks were unhappy with the assessment they could have appealed to the SCB for clarification. So does that mean the Star won't be investigating this ludicrous decision? Surely this move, which could materially affect the outcome of the play offs, is worthy of at least getting a statement explaining the decision. Fans want to know.If only you had a brain to tick .Does anyone have any straw going spare, I think I've found a use for it! Edited September 19, 2016 by waihekeaces1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 So does that mean the Star won't be investigating this ludicrous decision? Surely this move, which could materially affect the outcome of the play offs, is worthy of at least getting a statement explaining the decision. Fans want to know. Nope, its been ratified, so TOUGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Nope, its been ratified, so TOUGH.Not disputing that. It would be good to understand the reasoning though, especially in the new Chapman era of transparency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Not disputing that. It would be good to understand the reasoning though, especially in the new Chapman era of transparency. Have a word with Chapman then. Maybe he can supply you with the answers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capone Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 matt always has at least one ace up his sleeve,,,just a case of which one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 matt always has at least one ace up his sleeve,,,just a case of which one Yeah , but most people have only 4 aces to play with, Matt plays with a crocked deck that has far too more aces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'M the last person to ask about speedway's rulebook, but ... It's obviously legal if that's what MC decided on. As long as Lindback's average is below Andersen's then it's perfectly legal because there's a seven day window before the play off starts - only restriction is rider could not have ridden for another UK club this season. Poole enquired of the BSPA to provide an assessed average for Lindback. They came back with 7.00. And that was sanctioned by their own MC. It would be nice, of course, were the BSPA transparent and revealed how they came to that assessment but the fact that they haven't is hardly the fault of Poole and certainly doesn't, in my humble view, make them "cheating scumbags." If other tracks were unhappy with the assessment they could have appealed to the SCB for clarification. I rather suspect a lot of supporters would like to see the BSPA & MC decisions more transparent and might I add consistent but their complete indifference to inform their supporters has played a big part in how the sport is viewed today. Poole haven't cheated in this affair but not for the first appear to have been treated very favourably and in complete contrast to certain other clubs. Let's be fair the SCB as a body appear to have very little say in what happens with speedway in the UK. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Have a word with Chapman then. Maybe he can supply you with the answers..That was what I suggested the speedway star should be doing, if you recall my previous post... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 If there was nothing to hide then the decision making process would be there for all to see. The fact it's all cloak and dagger just re enforces how bent it all is, with Poole at the centre as always. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 PHIL RISING could surely find out the reasoning for the 7 average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 matt always has at least one ace up his sleeve,,,just a case of which one Hopefully its Mark Lemon!!!!!! I rather suspect a lot of supporters would like to see the BSPA & MC decisions more transparent and might I add consistent but their complete indifference to inform their supporters has played a big part in how the sport is viewed today. Poole haven't cheated in this affair but not for the first appear to have been treated very favourably and in complete contrast to certain other clubs. Let's be fair the SCB as a body appear to have very little say in what happens with speedway in the UK. Surely the SCB only get involved if there is a dispute between clubs/riders?! One can only assume there is no dispute and the play-off clubs are simply happy at the prospect of increased attendances!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 PHIL RISING could surely find out the reasoning for the 7 average?I would have thought so, as per my query to him above. But his post, to which I responded, didn't seem to indicate they were going to try to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) I m o the play offs are no longer about sport they are about the money. So yes the BSPA are going to come up with an average for Lindback that allows him to ride in Britain just for the play offs. A G P rider should put bums on seats so potentialy more money for the sport.Sky will be over the moon to have a G P rider on there screens.Sky inject money into speedway so keep them sweet and they will keep broadcasting Elite league speedway.Hence why no other promoters put in a complaint. Only my opinion but what other realistic reason is there for Giving a rider of Linback's class an assessed 7 point average when the likes of Cook and king have achieved an higher average over a full season.Perhaps one of them should get a wild card in the GPs next year seeing as they are(as far as the BSPA are concerend)better riders than Lindback. Edited September 20, 2016 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I m o the play offs are no longer about sport they are about the money. So yes the BSPA are going to come up with an average for Lindback that allows him to ride in Britain just for the play offs. A G P rider should put bums on seats so potentialy more money for the sport.Sky will be over the moon to have a G P rider on there screens.Sky inject money into speedway so keep them sweet and they will keep broadcasting Elite league speedway. Only my opinion but what other realistic reason is there for Giving a rider of Linback's class an assessed 7 point average when the likes of Cook and king have achieved an higher average over a full season.Perhaps one of them should get seeded into the GPs next year seeing as they are(as far as the BSPA are concerend)better riders than Lindback. Play offs have always been about money ...without money there is no speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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