Steve Shovlar Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Don't think the signing of Lindback is the do all & end all, looking at his form recently its a bit up & down. I honestly believe Tai will out score him over the 2 legs convincingly Its not Lindbacks job to outscore Woffinden. Doubt there's a rider out there capable of doing that anyway. Lindbacks job is to try to beat Lindgren, Masters, Thorsell etc. No doubt we would have been better off with horses for courses guests, but Matt Ford did the right and fair thing by using a Poole asset and what will be a full team member. Two Poole riders, Kurtz and Ellis, taking place in the Czech Golden helmet right now live. http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/10161678681-motocyklove-zavody/216471291272003-zlata-prilba-2016/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Whether Lindback is on form or not is not the issue. It is possible that Tai will score more point than him. But the issue is bending of points to suit the cause and as usual, these situations always involves Poole and Matt Ford. I don't agree with the rules for replacements, this late in the season. Why should we bend over backwards to accommodate riders who don't want to ride here normally. But IF they are allowed to compete, then make sure they do so on the correct average. Allowing Lindback to race on a 7 is taking the mick out of all those riders and teams who race here all year round........ Look at the end of the day year in year out people on here are forever whinging about Matt Ford, he finds a loophole & uses it, master technician! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Are you going to pay for them ? I'm not a promoter so no. However I'd pay more entrance to watch them if that answers the question. Doesn't that depend on the price that has to be paid? It is no good them coming back if they do not attract more fans to attend, at least sufficient to cover the extra money they will demand. The evidence is that crowds were falling before they departed. Clubs are surviving on a financial knife edge now so we must be sure they will increase crowds after the initial novelty has worn off. Otherwise, the sport will be left in a much worse position than it is now. Also, if we are going to let them in on artificially low averages, as seems the current thinking, we are going to put the likes of King, Cook, Nilsson and Thorsell out of a job. Is that really what we want to do to those and others on similar averages who have been loyal to the EL. I much prefer that we have teams made up of those riders committed to the UK. That will give us the opportunity for fewer guests, more places for home grown talent, continuity of riders in teams season on season, riders fans can then identify with and weekly home meetings. Over time standards will improve and we can look to regaining our place in international speedway. Importing more mercenaries who simply want to use the UK to earn more means fewer places for British riders and a continuation in our decline. It's no coincidence that crowds are down with the ever decreasing dwindling of the EL. Crowds have been reported up when Woffy has been in town so yes I believe crowds will improve. Its not Lindbacks job to outscore Woffinden. Doubt there's a rider out there capable of doing that anyway. According to SS Tai is on 9.17, which is lower than Doyle 10.15, AJ 9.34, Iversen 9.22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Whether Lindback is on form or not is not the issue. It is possible that Tai will score more point than him. But the issue is bending of points to suit the cause and as usual, these situations always involves Poole and Matt Ford. I don't agree with the rules for replacements, this late in the season. Why should we bend over backwards to accommodate riders who don't want to ride here normally. But IF they are allowed to compete, then make sure they do so on the correct average. Allowing Lindback to race on a 7 is taking the mick out of all those riders and teams who race here all year round........ Maybe its the new 'transparant', 'there are gonna be some big changes' BSPA Chairman that agreed the re-assessment!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I've just had a beautiful roast dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Apart from the re-assessment argument, I'm not sure what all the who ha is about Lindback? Its not as if he's even in decent form at the moment!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'm not a promoter so no. However I'd pay more entrance to watch them if that answers the question. It's no coincidence that crowds are down with the ever decreasing dwindling of the EL. Crowds have been reported up when Woffy has been in town so yes I believe crowds will improve. So you would be happy to pay £25 plus to see all the big boys back here then ? On the subject of crowds ours at poole have been good thanks !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Look at the end of the day year in year out people on here are forever whinging about Matt Ford, he finds a loophole & uses it, master technician! The very same loopholes he manages to create year on year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I think you have to ask for it to be re-assessed so if ypu dont ask it stays as it is for Tai's Tai's couldn't get reassessed as it's the average he gained 2 years ago. It has to be 3+ seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You talking about Lukas Dryml, who was fit to ride outside the UK but injured for Oxford? Yep but rightly or wrongly he had a Medical Certificate so no rules were broken but that was not OK in that instance. Same now isn't it ? BTW the end of that Dryml era today as Ales retired after his final race in the Czech Golden Helmet today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Yep but rightly or wrongly he had a Medical Certificate so no rules were broken but that was not OK in that instance. Same now isn't it ? BTW the end of that Dryml era today as Ales retired after his final race in the Czech Golden Helmet today Whats the same now? Andersen is injured! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 So you would be happy to pay £25 plus to see all the big boys back here then ? On the subject of crowds ours at poole have been good thanks !! I'd be happy to pay £20+ to see a proper elite league yes. You have to pay for better standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'd be happy to pay £20+ to see a proper elite league yes. You have to pay for better standard. No you wouldn't you don't go anymore. Too busy playing fast freddie. Brum brum brum.....pop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 The very same loopholes he manages to create year on year, Sad, init... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Don't think the signing of Lindback is the do all & end all, looking at his form recently its a bit up & down. I honestly believe Tai will out score him over the 2 legs convincinglyHope not hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Apart from the re-assessment argument, I'm not sure what all the who ha is about Lindback? Its not as if he's even in decent form at the moment!! Of course 8th in the current SGP series - definitely not as good as Andersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 No you wouldn't you don't go anymore. Too busy playing fast freddie. Brum brum brum.....pop. Troll off. I go watch speedway every week so yet another who has no idea what they are talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Of course 8th in the current SGP series - definitely not as good as Andersen I wasn't comparing him to Hans - no point cos Hans is injured. He may be 8th in the SGP currently but his last 2 GP scores are 6 and 4 points respectively, so hardly at the top of his form!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Whats the same now? Andersen is injured! People are criticising the fact Poole have made this change and your argument is that they have broken no rules. Nor did Oxford in 2001 but you refused to accept it That is the commonality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Of course 8th in the current SGP series - definitely not as good as Andersen so whats yr problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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