Poole Sign Lindback

[Steve Shovlar]

7.5 would have been reasonable. Also aligns with his Swedish average. 7.5 would not allow him to fit though.

Note you argue tai has a false average. Would you say Bjarne s average was any less false? Former gp rider who has been a hl for all but last season, in on a 4. average? Which he has blown out of the water.

Bjarne has blown it out of the water riding at reserve. He is badly exposed riding in the 1-5.

[BurntFaceMan]

7.5 would have been reasonable. Also aligns with his Swedish average. 7.5 would not allow him to fit though.

Note you argue tai has a false average. Would you say Bjarne s average was any less false? Former gp rider who has been a hl for all but last season, in on a 4. average? Which he has blown out of the water.

 

I didn't argue Tai had a false average. Tai is fair game in my opinion.

[Nellie]

7.5 would have been reasonable. Also aligns with his Swedish average. 7.5 would not allow him to fit though.

Note you argue tai has a false average. Would you say Bjarne s average was any less false? Former gp rider who has been a hl for all but last season, in on a 4. average? Which he has blown out of the water.

Bjarne was signed on 6.55 average, so has increased it by a, not so impressive, 0.35 in four months spent largely at reserve.

[woofers]

Still in 2016 regulations, 12.9 I think...

Correct, last year the rule just stated that goggles must be worn. This year the rule has been amended to say that their loss or removal during a race is not an offence.

[BurntFaceMan]

There is no need for all these crazy complicated assessment methods people are suggesting. Just work out the average CMA of the top 8 riders in the previous Elite League season and agree that any GP rider joining the league starts on that average.

Edited September 16, 2016 by BurntFaceMan

[Perton Wolf]

Good signing for Poole and it's fair enough if Hans doesn't ride in the upcoming GPs whilst the playoffs are running but if he does then it's a bit of a farce really.

[BurntFaceMan]

To be honest, if the only way we can tempt the big boys to ride in Britain is to sign them just for the play offs, then every team should be allowed to do it! Would make for much more exciting play offs!

 

It's time to stop pretending the EL is among the worlds best... we'd be lucky to have the top riders on our shores, if only for the play offs.

Good signing for Poole and it's fair enough if Hans doesn't ride in the upcoming GPs whilst the playoffs are running but if he does then it's a bit of a farce really.

 

Poole only have a 7 day window to make a signing. If Hans is unable to confirm when he will be able to ride again then Poole have no choice but to sign a new rider. A farce it is not.

I get why everyone is annoyed. Surprise surprise, the p1ss take Pirates have pulled another fast one. But really when you dig a little deeper... Poole did not want this. We didn't want our captain to get injured. It's not just Poole he isn't riding for, he pulled out of the SEC too. When you do the maths Antonio is actually a good fit.

 

I don't feel any malice towards the Wolves, who arguably got Tai on a bargain average (based on current form). That's just the name of the game. If you don't like it, then the rules need to be changed.

 

Unfortunately there will always be a team that makes a better fist of it than others, and Matt is 100% on the ball when it comes to the loopholes!

Edited September 16, 2016 by BurntFaceMan

[woofers]

Haven't we heard proposals for next year about each team having 2 No 1 riders in a squad system.

The way Woffinden and Lindback have been "bought in as required" is surely a fore runner of things to come.

[waiheke1]

 

I didn't argue Tai had a false average. Tai is fair game in my opinion.

Yeah sorry got you confused with another poster. My bad

Bjarne was signed on 6.55 average, so has increased it by a, not so impressive, 0.35 in four months spent largely at reserve.

I got that wrong too!

There is no need for all these crazy complicated assessment methods people are suggesting. Just work out the average CMA of the top 8 riders in the previous Elite League season and agree that any GP rider joining the league starts on that average.

Only issue I see with that is that not all gp riders are equal. If say smolinski got a wildcard or qualified,would it make sense that he comes in on the same as Hancock? Using Swedish or polish top flight average is about as simple as you can get. Perhaps allow a 10% reduction for someone riding in an u21 reserve berth in Poland.

[BurntFaceMan]

Only issue I see with that is that not all gp riders are equal. If say smolinski got a wildcard or qualified,would it make sense that he comes in on the same as Hancock? Using Swedish or polish top flight average is about as simple as you can get. Perhaps allow a 10% reduction for someone riding in an u21 reserve berth in Poland.

 

Hmm it's a tricky one. The Polish league is so much stronger than the Elite League. It's almost the difference between EL and NL!

[waiheke1]

 

Hmm it's a tricky one. The Polish league is so much stronger than the Elite League. It's almost the difference between EL and NL!

But if you look at the difference in averages between riders at hl in the EL and riding in Poland and it's only around 5%. Essentially a 5% incentive to attract quality riders

[KevH]

4, sha'l i count them all ??

I'd be very surprised if you can count that high

[SteveLyric2]

So Poole with Pedersen as a heat leader versus Wolves with the World Champ as a 2nd string!?

 

A pretty even match-up I would say!!

[Steve0]

So Poole with Pedersen as a heat leader versus Wolves with the World Champ as a 2nd string!?

 

A pretty even match-up I would say!!

:rofl: C'mon the wolves

[SteveLyric2]

Ah bless!!!

[foreverblue]

So Poole with Pedersen as a heat leader versus Wolves with the World Champ as a 2nd string!?

 

A pretty even match-up I would say!!

Leave Bjarne alone he will be fine, rides Monmore very well as does Ellis who will be at reserve.

Edited September 17, 2016 by foreverblue

[stevebrum]

When you do the maths Antonio is actually a good fit.

 

 

Trouble is the maths have been made to fit.

AJ was brought back into British speedway last season on a re-assessed 9.03 which for a top rider and GP regular appears fair.

Now for some bizarre reason it's suddenly been made public knowledge (by Poole) that re-assessed riders or new to British speedway will now be on a 7?

Why wasn't this made known at the start of the season instead of suddenly when one club wants to bring in a rider for injury replacement that miraculously fits??!

Nothing against any one club but plenty against those who decide these ever changing rules to suit.

Why wasn't Tai re-assessed to 7 as well because those vital .03 points could have made a difference?

[ouch]

If Andersen had an 7.55 average Lindback would have been re assessed to 7.50.

Equally if Belle Vue wanted to sign Lindback it would have been on his old average of 7.94.

 

It's the inconsistencies that get fans backs up coupled with the fact that Poole always get lucky.

 

Go figure.

[woofers]

If rider safety was that "paramount" 90% of the tracks in the UK would be shut down. It seems that no rules have been broken but the angry mob are just clutching at straws now.

 

Still waiting to hear from you. Come on, just give us a handful of ideas where referees, team managers and club officials are disregarding rider safety.

 

With around 30 tracks in the 3 leagues you've got plenty of opportunity to highlight the 3 that could remain open and shame the other 27. (Although you don't need to name them, just let us know some of the reasons why they'd be shut down)

[hagonshocker]

A Swindon rider has been booked for Wednesday from what I gather Tungate