Woz01 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Will referees penalise Lindback for having his barnet sticking out his helmet, though?I say it every gp heat he's in. Exclude him 😂 Also, when will people realise that Tai's average was is actual average not a made up one. It's completely different to this farce with Lindback. Edited September 16, 2016 by woz01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just for my own interest a question for Poole fans. If it was Fricke and not Andersen who was injured in that crash and Belle vue brought Lindback in on 7 point average to replace Fricke(who is on the same average as Andersen) would you say no probs agree with that or would a lot of you act in the same way as when Wolves signed Woffy. As a lot of wolves fans thought that Woffy replacing Joonas was a fair swap,but now the shoe is on the other foot they now think that Lindback replacing Andersen is not. Please give a honest answer and dont quote rules/averages etc we all know that the rules in British speedway are total crap full stop. In my eyes the truth is without any spin is that Woffy and Lindback are far better riders than Joonas,Andersen or Fricke and make the teams they have signed for far stronger for the play offs than they were for the league campaign. Well Poole had no choice. It is an injury replacement, not a strengthen replacement so can't be classed the same as Wolverhampton. The bad luck fell on Poole so Matt Ford had to do the best he possibly could for his club. By the sound of the moans he did just that. But what was he meant to do? Choose a lesser rider when the possibility was there to bring in a club asset who is extremely popular with the Poole massif? Of course not! The injury to Hans is genuine and there for all to see. Unfortunate but speedway is a dangerous sport and these things happen on a quite regular basis. Would I have liked Lindback to have come in in place of Fricke? No but it if was within the rules I would have to accept it, the same as Woffinden for Kylmo. Remember, none of this would have happened if Hans had not been injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just for my own interest a question for Poole fans. If it was Fricke and not Andersen who was injured in that crash and Belle vue brought Lindback in on 7 point average to replace Fricke(who is on the same average as Andersen) would you say no probs agree with that or would a lot of you act in the same way as when Wolves signed Woffy. As a lot of wolves fans thought that Woffy replacing Joonas was a fair swap,but now the shoe is on the other foot they now think that Lindback replacing Andersen is not. Please give a honest answer and dont quote rules/averages etc we all know that the rules in British speedway are total crap full stop. In my eyes the truth is without any spin is that Woffy and Lindback are far better riders than Joonas,Andersen or Fricke and make the teams they have signed for far stronger for the play offs than they were for the league campaign. As a Poole fan i am obviously happy that we have signed Lindback although the average he comes in on does seem low but if you take in to consideration his average while at Belle Vue maybe not. He is a favourite rider of mine from his previous time at Poole and always liked the guy and felt sorry for him when he had problems and was almost lost to the sport, his Cardiff win only made me like him more as i won a lot of money that day! The trouble i find on this forum is that all posters from the same team get tarred with the same brush, some Poole fans may have questioned why Woffinden wasn't re-assessed to a 8 point average considering he is world champion but not me if that was the figure he comes in on then fair play to Wolves, they are hardly likely to ask for it to be re-assessed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So how many people on this forum hopes this signing backfires spectacularly on Poole? Just hit "Like This" and we can all see. I'll start. CHEATING SCUMBAGS! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Not really ..this happens every season some kind of decision works out if there favour ....so it's no wonder people aim there bullets at Poole as they can't understand how it always happens . Not sure why and how they keep calling it a loophole . Quite, the question needs to be how/why is it allowed to happen year after year after year. How can one man have so much influence and at the detriment of the sports integrity? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) So how many people on this forum hopes this signing backfires spectacularly on Poole? Just hit "Like This" and we can all see. I'll start. CHEATING SCUMBAGS! Oh dear what a saddo. Like this post if you agree. Edited September 16, 2016 by Steve Shovlar 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Oh dear what a saddo. Is that the best you've got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeds Pirate Blue Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well, this thread is just a flaming dumpster fire of cry babies and haters. It's fine for Wolves to sack a healthy rider and bring in Woffy on a false average, yet Poole sign Lindback on a much more feasible average for a season-ending injury to Hansii and they get slaughtered for it. As pointed out by SCB we've got several GP riders riding in the Elite League averaging in the mid 7s; Zagar 7.55 and Lindgren 7.54, who are a comparable standard of rider to Lindback in my opinion. What the BSPA does to with regards to re-assessing Lindback's average is THEIR decision, but I'd guess they are protecting their interest by ensuring a more competitive playoffs by allowing Poole to sign a heatleader calibre rider to replace their captain and No.2. As for Woffy's average, well anyone with any modicum of sense flat out KNOWS his average is a joke. Why can't he be re-assessed? If he was given a more realistic average when he signed I don't think anyone could reasonably take issue with it, but bringing him in in the way they did stunk. It's within the rules, but it's pretty filthy. I'm aware Poole have made similar moves in the past, and while it benefits our side, I'm capable of acknowledging they were also fishy as fook moves too. To my mind the problem is that speedway is a mickey mouse sport that constantly makes short-sighted decisions and shoots itself in the foot. The BSPA really does lack self-awareness and foresight, and it is THEIR fault the sport is dying, not the Poole Pirates. As many people on this forum can see Matt Ford is an excellent promotor and does a better job than all his competitors. It's a shame he's a bit of a tosser, but hey, no-one is perfect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace no.5 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 What if Zagar got injured? Would you still be furious and believe your morals to be shot if Emil was signed?Of course not. Hence I'm not hacked off at Poole for all this, just the people that allowed it to happen. Lindback should not be a 7.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 without trolling through 30 odd pages(read a few to get the gist), has any body mentioned Richard Hall? Lindback not ridden EL for 10 years & has an average assessed DOWN to 7 Hall has a PL average & had an old NL average from 12 years ago but was not allowed to ride NL as was too good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Is that the best you've got?Is it lunchtime at school? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) I haven't got time to read all 30(!!) pages on this thread, but as a Pirates supporter I'm obviously very happy about the Rio Rocket riding for us once again. He was, and still is if I'm honest, one of my favourite riders and it's fab he's comeback home. HOWEVER, I do question the 7 assessed average he's been given. Seems very low for one of the current top riders in the world. Kudos to Matt Ford for this one as he hasn't broken any rules, stretched any rules or bent any rules on this occasion - but will that change though if Hans rides anywhere else this season? Edited September 16, 2016 by chris4gillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Stevebrum admitting that Woffy is a ringer. I'm purely using the words of others, wolves did everything by the book. I'd rather teams not be allowed to sign riders on low averages just because they want more meetings to suit them and to strengthen for the play offs or at least make the rules transparent. 2 years ago Hancock signed for Poole as late replacement on his OLD average. Last year AJ was re-assessed on 9.03. This year Lindback and apparently the likes of Vaculik and Dudek would be 7 as well. Totally made up year on year to suit . At least Wolves played fair by bringing in a rider on his real average when he too also should have been re-assessed 7. Wolves clearly weren't treated fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 You have still got to beat wolves which is going to be really hard. But with holder lindback woffy and Lindgren it's going to be one hell of a semi final and I for one can't wait to see who advances to face swindon lakeside or us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) To be fair, with the old heat format heat leaders had 8-10pt averages, so it made sense that a GP rider would come in on 8pts. Now with the new format heat leaders have 7-9pt averages, so it makes complete sense that a GP rider would come in on 7pts. The issue is that nobody from the BSPA is communicating the reasoning to the fans, and that's why people are assuming the worst. Edited September 16, 2016 by BurntFaceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 To be fair, with the old heat format heat leaders had 8-10pt averages, so it made sense that a GP rider would come in on 8pts. Now with the new format heat leaders have 7-9pt averages, so it makes complete sense that a GP rider would come in on 7pts. But lets not let common sense get in the way of blaming Matt Ford for global warming. I never thought about things that way, sounds a pretty plausible reason for the 7 average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 How is Woffinden's average false when it was earned two seasons ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 No I don't suppose you would. Obviously you can't see the end of your nose? When stunts like this are pulled they do immense damage to the creditability of our league and people like you are too blind to see. So too are the powers of the BSPA who haven't the strength needed to run the ship on an even keel. Allowing Riders like Woffy and Lindback in at this late stage is so short term, they only come here only to feather their nest, they have no allegiance to this league only the money when it suits them...... But to allow them to do so on ridiculously averages in an insult to all the other riders and teams. It was once conceived that all SGP riders be assessed 8. By allowing them to ride on these points, the BSPA have done the dirty on BV, Lakeside and Swindon and they are the teams who played it by the book...... I don't think you read me correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 How is Woffinden's average false when it was earned two seasons ago? His is the only true average. At least Wolves use real averages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 So how many people on this forum hopes this signing backfires spectacularly on Poole? Just hit "Like This" and we can all see. I'll start. CHEATING SCUMBAGS! What some people will do to get a 'like'. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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