TheReturn Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I'd rather the 4 teams in the play offs get to bring in some of the GP stars than some silly rule to add to the growing list of diluting rules. That's fine if all 4 teams can suddenly change their teams to bring in a GP calibre rider. If not and only one team is allowed to do that, I call that cheating the league title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Lindback's signing is within the rules, is it not? But to me, the damage to the sport is like moving your counter a few squares on when your opponent left the room for a lav break when you played that board game as a kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) With all due respect to the 'blue rinsers' Tai Woffinden was re-signed for Wolves around August 11th - BEFORE their qualification for the play-offs was assured; and with a number of meetings still outstanding. Â There is quite a difference between that and a 'Johnny Come Lately' being thrown into the mix at this late stage; on a (let's all, despite the rules, be perfectly honest) ridiculously low average given his World Class ability. Â Anyone that cannot at least concede the latter point is extremely blinkered.....to put it mildly. Edited September 16, 2016 by The Voice Of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 No. I am more than happy with BV 1-7. They have done us absolutely proud all season and win or lose these playoffs we can hold our heads up high and say "well done boys". They all deserve to ride in these playoffs. I would honestly be furious if we brought Emil in at this point. Our morals would be shot! Would love him at our place next season though! What if Zagar got injured? Would you still be furious and believe your morals to be shot if Emil was signed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 knew from the moment hans got injured this wud happen. whats wrong is lindbacks assessed 7 average . when did the rules change regarding the 8 point average gp riders are judged to be on...piotr pawlicki was dropped from poole because he was assessed at 7-50 and he wasnt a gp rider....where is the logic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 For me, the issue is not signing riders for the play-offs. I'd rather Poole sign their "own" rider than use someone else rider as a guest. My issue is that Lindback has been given a 7 point average. You have Woffy averaging 8.41, Doyle 9.6, Zagar 7.55, Harris 6.77 and Lindgren 7.54. How the hell do those GP riders and their averages tie in with Lindback being a 7? And once again, the issue is with the BSPA, not actually with Poole. Why the hell do they let them get away with "stuff" all the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) What if Zagar got injured? Would you still be furious and believe your morals to be shot if Emil was signed? Emil for Zagar would be a fairish swap as would Emil for Holder but how many would agree Emil for Fricke is a fair swap which is like Poole swapping Lindback for Andersen. I think Andersen and and Fricke both have a 7.15 average. Edited September 16, 2016 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 No. I am more than happy with BV 1-7. They have done us absolutely proud all season and win or lose these playoffs we can hold our heads up high and say "well done boys". They all deserve to ride in these playoffs. I would honestly be furious if we brought Emil in at this point. Our morals would be shot! Would love him at our place next season though! Â You seem to think Poole caused Hans injury so they could bring in Lindback. Poole didn't want Hans to get injured. It was a Belle Vue rider that caused it and he is out for the season, or at least the next few weeks meaning he is out for the playoffs. Not Pooles fault. Tungate for bv and Harris for Wolves would probably do better than Antonio. So count your blessings Poole did the right thing and bought in an asset rather than use horses for courses guests. Â Rather face Lindback than track specialist Tungate at BV to be honest but agree riders should have to have raced so many domestic league matches to qualify for play offs.It would stop all this nonsense.Wolves started it with Woffy and Poole are only doing the same. No. We are not doing the same. Bringing in Woffinden was a purely tactical move. Poole bringing in Lindback has been forced on them due to a season ending injury. Â Well done Poole on not using horses for courses guests. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Â For me, the issue is not signing riders for the play-offs. I'd rather Poole sign their "own" rider than use someone else rider as a guest. My issue is that Lindback has been given a 7 point average. You have Woffy averaging 8.41, Doyle 9.6, Zagar 7.55, Harris 6.77 and Lindgren 7.54. How the hell do those GP riders and their averages tie in with Lindback being a 7? And once again, the issue is with the BSPA, not actually with Poole. Why the hell do they let them get away with "stuff" all the time? Â Â Yep. Same as the use of PL averages at the start of the season, or Buzz not being on the HL list. Poole have followed the rules, possibly bending them a little if Hans's injuty isn't as bad as made out, but they haven't really done anything wrong. You can hardly blame them for recruiting a rider who will increase the gates and strengthen the team, rather than going with a rider carrying an injury. The issue is with those who agree to such ridiculous rules, is it purely incompetence, does Ford have something over them - year after year is the same. Edited September 16, 2016 by waihekeaces1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Interesting signing and surely makes Poole favourites now which is a shame.  Not sure why there is complaining as  1) Is this not the same as Tai signing for Wolves 2) Any other team could sign him on a 7 from the start of the season or for an injured rider. Or could have signed a top Polish rider.  Didnt I read somewhere that he still holds the track record at Poole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Poole fans, you really need to wake up and smell the coffee, if you cannot see that this is another nail in the speedway coffin then you are more deluded than I feared. And this doesn't apply to Wolverhampton, right ? knew from the moment hans got injured this wud happen. whats wrong is lindbacks assessed 7 average . when did the rules change regarding the 8 point average gp riders are judged to be on...piotr pawlicki was dropped from poole because he was assessed at 7-50 and he wasnt a gp rider....where is the logic.... 40 yrs a fan yeh. I would very much doubt it. You write like a kid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 2) Any other team could sign him on a 7 from the start of the season or for an injured rider. Â I'd like to bet any other team couldn't as there would be another reassessment of the figure 7. Â Â Â Â 40 yrs a fan yeh. I would very much doubt it. You write like a kid... Â Oh the irony. Edited September 16, 2016 by Gemini 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Interesting signing and surely makes Poole favourites now which is a shame.  Not sure why there is complaining as  1) Is this not the same as Tai signing for Wolves 2) Any other team could sign him on a 7 from the start of the season or for an injured rider. Or could have signed a top Polish rider.  Didnt I read somewhere that he still holds the track record at Poole.  He does indeed still hold the track record! 56.91 set in 2006. I remember the NEW TRACK RECORD sign flashing at the side of the track! Can't wait to see him back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 2) Any other team could sign him on a 7 from the start of the season or for an injured rider. Or could have signed a top Polish rider. Could they? The list is secret AFAIK. Unless their are clear rules on how riders averages are assessed then its always open to abuse and complaints. Â Isn't it funny that it's always Poole that get riders on dodgy averages? Dennis Andersen, Vaclav Milik and now Lindback. Â Meanwhile just about every other assesed rider in the last 4 seasons has seen his average drop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurntFaceMan Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Could they? The list is secret AFAIK. Unless their are clear rules on how riders averages are assessed then its always open to abuse and complaints.  Isn't it funny that it's always Poole that get riders on dodgy averages? Dennis Andersen, Vaclav Milik and now Lindback.  Meanwhile just about every other assesed rider in the last 4 seasons has seen his average drop!  Everyone is entitled to the same riders on the same averages... but they only find out after Poole has signed them  The fact is speedway in this country is NOT transparent. The only way you'll get a transparent future in British speedway is if everybody stops giving them their money every week. If you keep turning up, keep paying at turnstile, then you'll keep getting the status quo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Ive thought about this and actually this weakens poole if they face belle vue, because they would of gone for Tungate or king at The NSS who would probably outscore lindback anyway.I thought King's average is too high when playoffs start and can't use Tungate if Swindon make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 With all due respect to the 'blue rinsers' Tai Woffinden was re-signed for Wolves around August 11th - BEFORE their qualification for the play-offs was assured; and with a number of meetings still outstanding. Â There is quite a difference between that and a 'Johnny Come Lately' being thrown into the mix at this late stage; on a (let's all, despite the rules, be perfectly honest) ridiculously low average given his World Class ability. Â Anyone that cannot at least concede the latter point is extremely blinkered.....to put it mildly. Was he not signed to ensure that they made the play offs? Â Whats good for the goose etc. Â GO, GO Tonio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damosuzuki Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Will referees penalise Lindback for having his barnet sticking out his helmet, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just for my own interest a question for Poole fans. If it was Fricke and not Andersen who was injured in that crash and Belle vue brought Lindback in on 7 point average to replace Fricke(who is on the same average as Andersen) would you say no probs agree with that or would a lot of you act in the same way as when Wolves signed Woffy. As a lot of wolves fans thought that Woffy replacing Joonas was a fair swap,but now the shoe is on the other foot they now think that Lindback replacing Andersen is not. Please give a honest answer and dont quote rules/averages etc we all know that the rules in British speedway are total crap full stop. In my eyes the truth is without any spin is that Woffy and Lindback are far better riders than Joonas,Andersen or Fricke and make the teams they have signed for far stronger for the play offs than they were for the league campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Will referees penalise Lindback for having his barnet sticking out his helmet, though? Â Sounds disgusting... and why are refs looking in the showers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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