Poole Sign Lindback

[AlanF]

I'm sure Poole haven't broken any rules but this is ridiculous. By the very nature of the sport most riders will be carrying some sort of injury by this time of year and could get signed off. What is the point of a transfer deadline if you can replace an injured rider. That loophole needs closing ASAP. Riding in the playoffs without riding in even one league meeting is way outside the spirit of the rules.

 

Congratulations to Poole for once again finding the loophole and driving a double decker bus through it.

Edited September 16, 2016 by AlanF

[mikebv]

Lock up your daughters!

 

Anyone know where I can buy Hans Andersen wristbands. #prayforhansie

 

Cheating scumbags, back with a bang.

You can get them from me mate..

 

Knocking them out with a range of "#JusticeforRichardHall" wristbands...

 

Hadn't rode NL for years but wasn't allowed to get his average re-assessed...

 

Still thems the rules, just as long as they are administered consistently eh?😁

[Woz01]

Is it just me or did Hans say he COULD be back next week? Surely that doesn't cover as a long term injury. He could still be available in the playoffs according to the man himself.

[mikebv]

Is it just me or did Hans say he COULD be back next week? Surely that doesn't cover as a long term injury. He could still be available in the playoffs according to the man himself.

Makes sense...

 

If it happens then surely what Poole have done is replace a rider after the allotted time to do so? Therefore not allowed?

 

Or have the rules changed in the past 48 hours?

 

It is British Speedway after all, so it is possible of course..

[Lefty]

Will Lindback be riding on a 'holiday visa' ?

[LisaColette]

Is it just me or did Hans say he COULD be back next week? Surely that doesn't cover as a long term injury. He could still be available in the playoffs according to the man himself.

He said he doesn't know, it could be next week or 3 weeks.

[g13webb]

In terms of Lindbäck's reassessed average it's spot on.

Being a GP rider is totally irrelevant when giving riders assessed averages.

It's all to do with how they've performed in foreign league competitions based on the previous season.

In 2015 Lindbäck obtained a 7.58 average in the Elitserien.

Lindbäck also only raced the Polish 2nd tier in 2015 with an 8.75 average.

With those figures a 7.00 is the absolute maximum the BSPA could possibly give after being away from the British League for more than 3 years.

 

The only thing that doesn't sit correct is if Hans Andersen rides in the Euro's on Saturday.

If he does his injury status isn't season ending & long term, only then could & should Lindbäck's inclusion be contested.

 

IMO, the press release from Poole is either premature or they know Hans isn't going to be available Saturday.

 

What rubbish you talk !! By being a SGP rider he can be argued to be in the top 15 of the world. You cannot make comparisons with other leagues because we are by far the worse. Also looking back to what his averages were 10 yrs ago is of no consequence to how he rode then or of the differences in League racing today

 

Looking at the averages that some of our riders have achieved this year, We have Cook 7.87; Worrall 7.24; Danny King 7.14; Robert Lambert 7.68; Kim Nillson7.89;

Kyle Newman 7.27; Josh Grajczonek 7.33; Sam Masters 7.86 and Lindback is better than all of those. Anybody who knows anything about this sport would know Lindback has been undervalued purposely to satisfy Fords request.

 

I have always been optimistic the BSPA would eventually get in right, but seeing this happen this week just illustrates all that is wrong with our sport. Matt Ford has some massive hold over too many people and can pull the strings if and when he likes.. He has no allegiance to our sport, he's just a selfish man governed by his own personal existence. By allowing Poole to bring in Lindback on this ridiculous score, the BSPA members have said to all the other riders and teams UP YOURS!!

 

When the integrity has gone, this sport has nothing left to give......

[liam]

Poole haven't cheated as the signing has been cleared but things like this damage the sport, no way is Lindback a 7 point rider in this weak league. Iam a Lakeside fan so Iam well aware if we did make play offs we will be the whipping boys so hope for integrity of the sport Belle Vue win it.

[Halifaxtiger]

 

But Lindback is not a newcomer, he has an average. Assuming it is the 7.94 previously quoted then it can be amended if:

 

1) Poole request the BSPA to amend it (downwards presumably); or

 

2) The BSPA can exercise their power to give Lindback an amended average under 16.2.3 (a)

 

Can see little point in amending it upwards given 8.00 is the highest credible figure, but given Lindgren (10th in the GP) is on 7.52, Zagar (13th) 7.55, and Jonsson (14th) is on 8.78 I don't see much scope for a downward revision that isn't open to accusations of 'fiddling'

 

As to whether Andersen is injured 'long term' (note - not season ending) I think that would be difficult to sustain if he rides before next Wednesday, but probably tenable if he were to return AFTER the play-offs started.

 

If Lindback is to replace Andersen then presumably he comes in on a 7.00 (as Andersen is 7.15 at the moment) - and that just does not feel right.

 

Great post, Arnie.

 

Poole haven't cheated, they have followed the rules.

 

But to allow a current GP rider to have his average reduced when he is quite clearly a better performer than before is surely wrong.

 

Those directing their ire at Poole are aiming their bullets in the wrong direction.

[ruckerroo]

The rights and wrongs of the signing hide one fact, speedways fans in england have been moaning the last few years about the grade of rider being on the wane.

 

Cheque book speedway for sure but woffy and linback riding in the play offs with several g p riders isnt so bad

[A ORLOV]

It has been predicted for a while that Matt would pull another rabbit out of a hat, the injury to Hans has helped but who on earth has determined the average that Linback is on.

Those that determine such things have put another question mark against their ability to run the sport properly, but one must give credit to Matt for finding another loophole in the rules.

[BurntFaceMan]

To say Poole has cheated is ridiculous. The problem is a sport where big decisions (such as assessed averages) are left in the hands of any one person. Such decisions must be made transparently and based upon a fixed set of rules. No exceptions.

[Lefty]

I would have thought if Poole wished to replace Hans then a balanced BSPA would have offered Joonas Kylmakorpi as a more appropriate replacement,

Edited September 16, 2016 by Lefty

[E I Addio]

 

But to allow a current GP rider to have his average reduced when he is quite clearly a better performer than before is surely wrong.

 

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Exactly. When Andreas Jonsson returned to the E L after a break of 7 years he was given an assessed average of 9.03. The reason given was that as a GP rider he should be able to reach the average of the top rider in the league who at that time was Niels Kristioan Iveson on 9.03. Why does the same ruling not apply to Lindback who is now a more experienced rider , riding in a weaker league than when he was last here ?

[orion]

 

Great post, Arnie.

 

Poole haven't cheated, they have followed the rules.

 

But to allow a current GP rider to have his average reduced when he is quite clearly a better performer than before is surely wrong.

 

Those directing their ire at Poole are aiming their bullets in the wrong direction.

Not really ..this happens every season some kind of decision works out if there favour ....so it's no wonder people aim there bullets at Poole as they can't understand how it always happens . Not sure why and how they keep calling it a loophole .

Edited September 16, 2016 by orion

[bluejigger]

Don't you just love it when the jealously train rumbles on - all the Poole haters green with envy falling over themselves to latch on to any morsel they can attack the club with. Great entertainment - bring it on !

[damosuzuki]

Han's injury looks to me like a brawlers break - IE it's not even on the main two knuckles which a boxer would be likely to injure (Brawlers so called I believe because it's the result of punching incorrectly).

 

How on earth he's going to be riding next week is beyond me, as it's a paticularly painful and nasty one. Matt Ford has history and I believe he'll cheat if he thinks he'll get away with it, but in this case there's no way I'd be happy with someone in my team with that injury.

 

Lets see the rules set up for next season to avoid this kind of controversy (Buster?), but in the meantime for a neutral like me I'm going to sit back and enjoy the cream of world speedway battling it out.

[Lord Skid]

Would be easier just to give Matt his trophies at the start of the season, that way you would stop all the rule bending.

I've got some old x rays without a name and date on, if anyone wants to use them for a sicknote.

Can also supply authentic sick notes at a reasonable price.

[B.V 72]

BREAKING NEWS.

 

Belle vue have signed Coco the clown in order to join the play off circus.

 

He has been assesed on a 7 point average Belle vue are aware that this average my be a little controversial and may make the plays offs seem like a bit of a joke.But we dont give a $hit we just want to win.

Edited September 16, 2016 by B.V 72

[Dickie Head]

Andersen has withdrawn from the SEC - Twitter announcement from him.