clambo71 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Agree Liams problems are machine related.He needs to do a lot of testing with his current motors or get last seasons engines tuned and in his bikes asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havenagotahope Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 too much of a risk imo although if it's the right rider (a good one) then I suppose it isn't a riskThe two you Czechs are flying this year and no they don't know the tracks but we're at the point of salvage and team building for next year after this coming weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Â Like the look of this team, maybe though you`d still have the problem with Gappmaier at two that you do with Carr. Seems Berge isn't quite as happy at Berwick as he thought he might be so for him to leave the team would make sense for club and rider and Carr is weak at two, though I think the big problems for him are machine related, nevertheless he isn't, and doesn't look like scoring the points he should be so I agree about dropping him. Bellego being a club asset must be under consideration, though he has a full diary now so to add Berwick`s fixtures could prove a problem especially where there are clashes as I`m guessing the clubs he has now would take precedent over Berwick`s fixtures. I would assume that Berwick would have paid the loan fee to Glasgow for the season, if this is the case i am sure Berwick will try & recoup as much of that as possible. Â I am really not that surprised if this is the case i have never seen a more temperamental rider than Dimitri if things don't go his way, it is going to prove difficult for Glasgow to offload him. Edited April 11, 2017 by Gazc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I would assume that Berwick would have paid the loan fee to Glasgow for the season, if this is the case i am sure Berwick will try & recoup as much of that as possible. Â I am really not that surprised if this is the case i have never seen a more temperamental rider than Dimitri if things don't go his way, it is going to prove difficult for Glasgow to offload him. I dont think he minds riding for us, he's just been slow? Did Liam not buy engines off Burza? Or another former Berwick rider? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I would assume that Berwick would have paid the loan fee to Glasgow for the season, if this is the case i am sure Berwick will try & recoup as much of that as possible. Â I am really not that surprised if this is the case i have never seen a more temperamental rider than Dimitri if things don't go his way, it is going to prove difficult for Glasgow to offload him. No one would part money for his registration, not that they really need to anyway. Its not even Easter and it sounds Berge is already unsettled FFS. Another season or two he will run out of clubs willing to take him on loan. He's got the talent and the machinery just not the mentality or maturity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 No one would part money for his registration, not that they really need to anyway. Its not even Easter and it sounds Berge is already unsettled FFS. Another season or two he will run out of clubs willing to take him on loan. He's got the talent and the machinery just not the mentality or maturity.Unfortunately his fellow Frenchman Bellego has the same temperament IMO.Highly talented though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 This is where good management and support system around the team kick in. If a rider is struggling, work with him, help him, if there are problems, sort them out. Gating seems to be a problem throughout the team, is it something to do with set-ups? Gating looked better against Ipswich, when the starting gate was like a ploughed field. Do they need to make the starting gate deeper? The riders apparently under pressure have talent, look at Berge in the World under 21 last year, look at the way Liam finished last season. They don't suddenly become poor riders. They may lose confidence, they may be on machinery which is not working as well as it once was. That's when the riders / management need to work together and re-build confidence, work at things. Then at least id things still don't work out, you have given it a good chance, then look to make changes, if the right riders are available. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I dont think he minds riding for us, he's just been slow? Did Liam not buy engines off Burza? Or another former Berwick rider? If he did , they are still second hand engines, does not matter who owned them The two you Czechs are flying this year and no they don't know the tracks but we're at the point of salvage and team building for next year after this coming weekend. Cannot see Czechs signing for Berwick, Berwick does not have a good name over there at the moment. Would need a good PR team to go over and convince them otherwise, and a large wallet. This is where good management and support system around the team kick in. If a rider is struggling, work with him, help him, if there are problems, sort them out. Gating seems to be a problem throughout the team, is it something to do with set-ups? Gating looked better against Ipswich, when the starting gate was like a ploughed field. Do they need to make the starting gate deeper? The riders apparently under pressure have talent, look at Berge in the World under 21 last year, look at the way Liam finished last season. They don't suddenly become poor riders. They may lose confidence, they may be on machinery which is not working as well as it once was. That's when the riders / management need to work together and re-build confidence, work at things. Then at least id things still don't work out, you have given it a good chance, then look to make changes, if the right riders are available. Got to agree, the club has talked it's ability to change up, and have delivered with the infrastructure so far. We have had such a bad track for the last 6 to 8 years, and is now massively improved, and am sure it's development is on going. If the management has skills to improve on the team side, they need to put it together and act now, they have "talked the talk", now lets see them "walk the walk" Â Sadly, I thought the team didn't have structure from the beginning, but was hoping to be proved wrong, nearly every rider had an "IF" against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 If he did , they are still second hand engines, does not matter who owned them  Cannot see Czechs signing for Berwick, Berwick does not have a good name over there at the moment. Would need a good PR team to go over and convince them otherwise, and a large wallet.  Got to agree, the club has talked it's ability to change up, and have delivered with the infrastructure so far. We have had such a bad track for the last 6 to 8 years, and is now massively improved, and am sure it's development is on going. If the management has skills to improve on the team side, they need to put it together and act now, they have "talked the talk", now lets see them "walk the walk"  Sadly, I thought the team didn't have structure from the beginning, but was hoping to be proved wrong, nearly every rider had an "IF" against them. No point making changes until first averages come out, give the struggling riders until then as they have 3 meetings this weekend and a few more before end of month. Why does Berwick have a bad name with Czech riders? We've gave so many a chance compared to any other team in Britain? I agree regarding the look of the team from when it was announced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted April 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 No point making changes until first averages come out, give the struggling riders until then as they have 3 meetings this weekend and a few more before end of month. Why does Berwick have a bad name with Czech riders? We've gave so many a chance compared to any other team in Britain? I agree regarding the look of the team from when it was announced. We used to have a good name in Czech, but in recent years the Czech riders with the exception of Matej Kus have not been treated respectfully at Berwick, the nail in the coffin was Hynek Sticheur. However every Czech I know, think the fans at Berwick are fantastic, it shows when we visit CZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.berwickbandits.co/news/slow-new-beginnings-not-denting-hopes-weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.berwickbandits.co/news/slow-new-beginnings-not-denting-hopes-weekendWebsite under construction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothers Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Unfortunately his fellow Frenchman Bellego has the same temperament IMO.Highly talented though. Nope sorry. Having had both Berge and Bellego at Redcar recently there is no comparison. Berge turned up each week and punched his clockcard. Bellego turned himself into a Premier League (as was) Number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyvalleywoolerman Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.berwickbandits.co/news/slow-new-beginnings-not-denting-hopes-weekend  Yes a good solid interview and preview on the excellent Bandits website which continues to entertainand inform not least through The Dirt where you get updated blogs all through the week with George Dodds latest posting probably required reading for a few on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Nope sorry. Having had both Berge and Bellego at Redcar recently there is no comparison. Berge turned up each week and punched his clockcard. Bellego turned himself into a Premier League (as was) Number 1.Well I saw Bellego turn up at Berwick and punch his clock card a few times for whatever reason.Imo he was more interested about riding in Poland at that time..He has talent though when in the mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Â Yes a good solid interview and preview on the excellent Bandits website which continues to entertainand inform not least through The Dirt where you get updated blogs all through the week with George Dodds latest posting probably required reading for a few on here. Very good blog from George. Â http://www.berwickbandits.co/blog/its-not-just-glory-game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitfrog Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Anyone else feel that Berwick should drop Bridger and Berge before it's too late and bring in someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Anyone else feel that Berwick should drop Bridger and Berge before it's too late and bring in someone else? If you want to get the best out of Berge, you need to have him riding at the number 2 riding slot. Â Check out his last seasons scores when riding for Sheffield last season when he was riding at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 You shouldnt have to sacrafice (Carr) in this instance because a heatleader can't score what he's meant too though? Having a heatleader at 2 is suicide if the others arent flying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 Anyone else feel that Berwick should drop Bridger and Berge before it's too late and bring in someone else?We have a new tub of Polyfilla handy.No panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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